Beatty 139

This image has caught my eye before because of the wheels, sadly you can’t read the name it could be Wellington 176 of 1865 or Himley 7 of 1859 as all the others are photographed and have what I think are backwards T spoked wheels, I don’t think they are H spoke having studied the various images. The rebuild of Victory has T spoke wheels and does the other 0-4-2 reputedly rebuild from Round Oak which I can’t find any reference too or Lord Ward which is another lost in a vail of mystery. i don’t think it is Himley as Brandon and Countess also of 1859 both have good clear images with T spoke wheels

Yes the whole thing is quite light in construction at that point the from what I can see the stretcher and motion plate all are one which would have no doubt help the whole loco, I do wish that lad wasn’t posed there in that photo to give a clue as to what was going on around the mounting of the cylinders and the front end.

Are you sure that there is a section of frame between the horns, after hours of looking at photos of these and what other builders did at the period I am kind of convinced that they did not.

A lot of industrial loco’s especially older/smaller ones 10”/12” cylinders only had hand brakes and no steam brakes, also quite a few of the smaller bellow 20T industrial diesels were hand brake only. Just have to be handled with care and kept well adjusted.

Fowler’s DM’s have clutch brakes, well my 80hp one does and getting it set up right is the key to easy gear changes, later Fowler DH use standard Wiseman final drives.

It’s not always an area thing but a seam by seam thing some seams produce good coking coal while one or two above could be good house coal. When I started in my industry we still have quite a bit of coal fired heating and steam rasing plant and coal quality was important and a well understood science, if you have a dig around you should find some old coal board publications that would answer a lot of your questions.

1/32” will on the whole design itself when you scale from full size as the gauge/body proportions match, you will have to make some allowance for wheel standards being not quite to scale. Now when it comes to 10mm scale you need to do a lot more engineering, as the frames are not to scale, it was done to give bigger boilers and larger outside cylinders (but is a bit of a pain for inside cylinder live steam locos) work out who’s bearings you intend to use, work back from the back to backs of the wheel set standards and build in a few thou of side play then you know your face to face dimensions of the frames, however if you designing a loco with a smoke box saddle or exposed frames above the foot plating this will need to be dummy as they will not line up with the actual working frames and will look wrong if you try.

Really nice job that.

RSH were long time perponents of the idea and Beryl at Tanfield was built as recently as 1953 and has a direct reversing Crossley engine.

Don’t forget the Stephenson Crossley used a direct reversing engine, so why not at this early stage in internal combustion loco design ?

I am sure I have read an article on these in a copy of the Engineer via the Gracie’s Guide web site. I keep hoping one day they will scan and add the Railway engineer to the list of publications they have.

I’ve been slowly working on building and gathering information for one of these Hudswell Clarke Locos I have a few things that are still sketchy and still seeking more information. I was wondering if anyone had access to the BR driving manual ref 33003/32 that covers these locos and if it includes any information or diagrams that might help.

Yes I am lead to believe that Aston Manor have one (now at Aldridge) sadly the hell that was domestic duties at Ikea resulted in me not making it there in time.

Many thanks.

I have been asked a question by a Modeller not on RMweb about the inside frame colour on the NBL Ried altantics, I was just wondering if anyone knew what it should be?