Beatty 139

This image has caught my eye before because of the wheels, sadly you can’t read the name it could be Wellington 176 of 1865 or Himley 7 of 1859 as all the others are photographed and have what I think are backwards T spoked wheels, I don’t think they are H spoke having studied the various images. The rebuild of Victory has T spoke wheels and does the other 0-4-2 reputedly rebuild from Round Oak which I can’t find any reference too or Lord Ward which is another lost in a vail of mystery. i don’t think it is Himley as Brandon and Countess also of 1859 both have good clear images with T spoke wheels

Yes the whole thing is quite light in construction at that point the from what I can see the stretcher and motion plate all are one which would have no doubt help the whole loco, I do wish that lad wasn’t posed there in that photo to give a clue as to what was going on around the mounting of the cylinders and the front end.

Are you sure that there is a section of frame between the horns, after hours of looking at photos of these and what other builders did at the period I am kind of convinced that they did not.

A lot of industrial loco’s especially older/smaller ones 10”/12” cylinders only had hand brakes and no steam brakes, also quite a few of the smaller bellow 20T industrial diesels were hand brake only. Just have to be handled with care and kept well adjusted.

Fowler’s DM’s have clutch brakes, well my 80hp one does and getting it set up right is the key to easy gear changes, later Fowler DH use standard Wiseman final drives.

It’s not always an area thing but a seam by seam thing some seams produce good coking coal while one or two above could be good house coal. When I started in my industry we still have quite a bit of coal fired heating and steam rasing plant and coal quality was important and a well understood science, if you have a dig around you should find some old coal board publications that would answer a lot of your questions.

1/32” will on the whole design itself when you scale from full size as the gauge/body proportions match, you will have to make some allowance for wheel standards being not quite to scale. Now when it comes to 10mm scale you need to do a lot more engineering, as the frames are not to scale, it was done to give bigger boilers and larger outside cylinders (but is a bit of a pain for inside cylinder live steam locos) work out who’s bearings you intend to use, work back from the back to backs of the wheel set standards and build in a few thou of side play then you know your face to face dimensions of the frames, however if you designing a loco with a smoke box saddle or exposed frames above the foot plating this will need to be dummy as they will not line up with the actual working frames and will look wrong if you try.

Really nice job that.

RSH were long time perponents of the idea and Beryl at Tanfield was built as recently as 1953 and has a direct reversing Crossley engine.

Don’t forget the Stephenson Crossley used a direct reversing engine, so why not at this early stage in internal combustion loco design ?

I am sure I have read an article on these in a copy of the Engineer via the Gracie’s Guide web site. I keep hoping one day they will scan and add the Railway engineer to the list of publications they have.

I’ve been slowly working on building and gathering information for one of these Hudswell Clarke Locos I have a few things that are still sketchy and still seeking more information. I was wondering if anyone had access to the BR driving manual ref 33003/32 that covers these locos and if it includes any information or diagrams that might help.

Yes I am lead to believe that Aston Manor have one (now at Aldridge) sadly the hell that was domestic duties at Ikea resulted in me not making it there in time.

Many thanks.

I have been asked a question by a Modeller not on RMweb about the inside frame colour on the NBL Ried altantics, I was just wondering if anyone knew what it should be?

The Railway that never was is the book I think, I have just gone to look for my copy but can’t find it... The Railway that never was is the book I think, I have just gone to look for my copy but can’t find it...

That agrees with the vintage carriage Trust record on this vehicle. http://www.cs.vintagecarriagestrust.org/se/CarriageInfo.asp?Ref=595

Having spent the last 14 years driving that way I would agree it’s in the dip with Bornville lane to the right and that’s the corner where imperial house is now

I have been offered a number of drawings saved from BCT by a draftsman who was working for the PTE and rescued them from the skip, as yet I have not collected them but with all these archives you have to wonder what treasures are likely to appear, it’s never ceases to amaze me how many proposed drawings survive compared to the stuff that was regularly used.

Birmingham has quite a few plans that never happened a few years ago while dealing with a power supply issue for the day job and working with Wester Power Distribution I questioned the slightly bizzar distribution arrangements on Oak Tree lane Selly Oak only to be told I was rewired before the war ready for tramway operation between Selly Oak and Cotteridge, a line as far as I was aware was never built. Not suppressing the regular issue with power supply in that area are not helped that that prewar, German lead and paper insulated cable is still trying to do the job in 2018!

I’ve been asked to engrave some Birmingham Tramcar door glasses, but I’m not quite sure about the artwork I have been given and while making the effort in the first place would rather get It right. Does anyone happen to have an image for a BCT etched bank key ?

Part of the common sense approach of the NER is they enetered into agreements with the local electricity companies to supply the power to the railway so unlike others did not have to invest in building them.

I started building a 2 car 1904 Tyneside set but sadly with a house move and total refurbishment it kind of stalled and got as far as building the two coach bodies but really does need reviving as a project. Tyneside system was superb from the outset.

And a wheel set, sadly when the pikeys turn up alsorts go we even lost about a 1/4 of a mile of track that was at the rear of a row of houses but no one thought to call the police.

20 and 40hp petrol locos we’re 2 or 4 JO W H Dorman units, later these were updated as a model to the JOR which were an updated model with separate ‘Recardo’ heads. The JO was a WD subsidy engine. Diesels were often Dorman 2 or 4 DWD units but others are used. Sadly The Dorman of Stafford name was lost a few years ago following take over by Perkins. Dorman also provides the route that W G Bagnall enetered the English Electric, in that Dormans purchased Bagnalls then English Electric purchased Dormans.