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It has been a while. Unfortunately over whelmed with the day job and other things. But, the narrow gauge baseboards are nearly done in the spare bedroom! Looks a nice model of No 8. Later on she had a wooden tool box thing on the right front of the footplate and has sliding cab "shutters" visible in some pictures. Tom

The ones I cut on Monday have been in the warm living room. They've dried and curled up a bit looking most realistic, even with the little veins standing up. I've seen some at the bottom of a pond with resin water and I suppose they can be fixed with dilute PVA spray with a wetting agent like IPA or fairy liquid, like any other flocky stuff. Haven't tried though. Tom Oh, IPA = propan-2-ol, not India Pale Ale, although .... it certainly does things look better for me :-)

Well I'm exited. T

Hi I just stumbled across this site after talking to a war gamer? They are a bit strange but have some pretty neat scenery tips. Leaf punches for making little leaves out of real ones? Just ordered 3. I have no connection with this vendor. Tom http://www.greenstuffworld.com/en/95-model-leaves

http://www.geoffs-trains.com/Museum/jacktar.html As far as I know was used in UK to help build a line to Chinley before being sold with her sister. Her sister was sold to Kettering Iron and coal company, if she'd been sold to Africa maybe she'd still be around :-(.

Yeah, sorry, it was just an old phone used and a dark and miserable day under tree cover. Plans are afoot to get there with a proper camera and take some at better angles. T

It would certainly be too small a section to be standard gauge rail I think. If it originated locally though and was reused, there were many of the local ironstone tramways began as 2ft lines or 3ft 1860's onwards, later to be relayed 3ft, meter and standard. Desborough 2ft survived to the 1960's The lines were so fleeting and temporary, 2nd 3rd and 4th hand anything is possible. The "rail" is very corroded underneath on it's lower surface and quite smooth on the upper surfaces ... but then so is my old Land Rover. We've only done a little research so far but it's absolutely fascinating, well, to me. Note, it's staked at one end, it was put there on purpose and staked to the ground. T

Agree, Jim put me onto it but it could do with rescuing, don't think we can do it alone. Bridge rail is the first thing that occurred to me, re used. It appears to be a ship canal type wagon, possibly turn of the century, standard gauge, only touched by time T.

Hi Mate Good to see you this evening. I decided to post these as Oscar and I are often walking around that area. It's a climb but it's there. I'll leave it to you to post the latest theory's behind it. Does it need preserving?

Thats a fine looking model Jim! The brass will soon clear up, I use Cillit bang and a toothbrush. Can I encourage you to finish it? I usually use Cast wheels for O and Romfords for 00. But Slaters make additional axles for their O range including scale 3ft and 16.5 which is the option I went for. My efforts currently run OK though a Peco fine scale 3 way OO point so seems a simple trouble free answer to modelling 3ft gauge. Take care Tom

Hi Jim Replied other thread (this thread is Sir Douglas's) and sent you a PM. But I'm sure Sir Douglas would like any images you have on this thread as well. Take Care Tom

Scale toilet paper. "Do not flush while train is in station". Steam era or modern thingy which has now even reached ministerial level.

Hi OP Can I point you at this site: http://www.oldmapsonline.org/#bbox=-0.834641,52.348934,-0.584702,52.448648&q=&datefrom=1000&dateto=2010 Lots of old maps to waste a lot of time on. Especially if you are using them to trace surviving evidence of very fleeting industrial lines! T

Hi. Please give me a heads up on the publication, I'd be really interested. T

Yet another project starts! http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/93938-kettering-iron-and-coal-company-no-8/?p=1711594

On the subject of modelling 3ft gauge the easy and lazy way (me). I've now got some Slaters O gauge MW 2ft 8" wheels with 16.5 axles and they appear to run through code 100 OK. Xmas coming up and more time to spend I need to try them on a code 75 asymmetrical 3 way for this well planned but as yet virtual layout! Not to be put off I may just ban them from these routes. Not yet at the point of building a model of No 8 but have all the info I need to start. Time is the big enemy but might get a chance to put a chassis together over Xmas to look at this track thing. If any success (and time) I'll start a layout and a loco thread separate. Completely off topic, got sent to Mexico and found this lovely outside framed oil fired 4-6-0 Baldwin, 30 inch gauge I believe. Not sure how they managed to do that to the rear axle. Logo is a footwear brand. She is sitting next to an enormousness standard gauge 4-8-4 which seemed to be the home of many very pretty little birds. T

Hi On the subject of old ironstone quarries, well, anything old really I know of this site. Old maps. Really interesting to step through and see just how they developed, and then vanished. Seems a really good resource for track plans etc. Quite interesting to see how the different systems almost butted up against each other, never meeting and even of different gauges. http://www.oldmapsonline.org/#bbox=-0.880989,52.349564,-0.63105,52.449276&q=&datefrom=1000&dateto=2010 http://maps.nls.uk/view/101574844 T

Hi Fantastic and thanks for pointing me at that, a new one for me. Those in the know have speculated that she was laid up at this point? She appears to have received a ghastly but protective repaint when stored outside the Manor House and quite out of character. Maroon when built, green after RSH rebuild. I don't know what they rebuilt re looks, I don't think very much but her sisters change quite a bit with full cabs added. The colour in this image seems really good, I am drawn to the wheels, looks to me like they might have all been yellow, yellow rods and cross head. So that's another line of research .. what colour was she and when. T

Couple go to a Chinese restaurant and order the Chicken Surprise, it arrives in a cast iron pot with a lid. Wife goes to serve herself and the lid pops oped just a little and she can see a beady pair of eyes just before the lid slams shut. Did you see that she asks her husband, there's something it there. Her husband goes to take a portion and the lid creeps open again to reveal a beady pair of eyes looking at him from within the pot just before it slams shut. He calls the waiter over and says that there was something wrong. The waiter says it's OK, it's chicken surprise. Then, the lid opens again a little and they all see the beady pair of eyes looking at them before the lid slams shut. Oh, very sorry says the waiter, you've been given the wrong dish. This is Peeking duck.

Mr Kazers track looks very nice indeed! 16.5 vs 21? Turned up a couple of axles, wheels are too big, should be 19 vs 22.5 (2ft 9 but slaters make some MW 2ft 8"?). Photo sitting on a drawing of the buffer beam I've been working on. Track will clearly look very wrong but think the engines won't look too bad. Despite being O gauge F/S wheels they trundle through peco 0-16.5 turnouts very nicely so haven't bothered to thin the flanges. Interesting. T

PS. The chassis dims are an exact match for the rough drawing I have of Jack Tar. T

Hi For me 1/48 would be a good option as there is commercial support for track (On3). The layout plan that is developing has a standard gauge feeder that'll be 1:43 (Lamport No 5 is well under way!). The rest is planned as 16.5 (don't have a go at me please). But this is a mix of some comercial stuff already souced in 1:48 (Bachmann connies) and a 7mm NGG16 (under conctruction). I'm going to play with some axles this afternoon and play with some gauges to try and get to "look" of 3ft in my mind. Mean while, where have I been this morning? Climbing all over No 8! I got the opportunity by chance and am looking forward to getting some dims form the cab and tank which were locked away at the time. Tom

Well.... I very much like your Mallet design, looks nice and powerful and plenty of space in a model for lots of weight. Reminds me of some of the heavy industrial output of Messers Corpet and Louvet I have seen pictures of. Some nice chunky 0-8-0s as well. What do you think re modeling? How to get the right look of these little 3ft gauge beauties in 7mm without hand layiing 60ft+ of 21mm gauge track (which aint ever gona happen). I have some wild ideas but will need some experimentation. Oh, and wheels and gears etc. T

I've got some pics of 6 and 7 unrebuilt but they are out of a book so don't want to infringe any copyright by posting. But I've found some interesting snippets on the web. The funny little brackets on the front are for a snow plough! http://www.irsociety.co.uk/Archives/19/Snowploughs.htm And a nice drawing of a wagon, from research KF had up to 360. http://www.irsociety.co.uk/Archives/13/narrow_gauge_wagons_6.htm And Jack Tar has a facebook page with more pictures and a rough drawing. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.374549419230820.92967.256574611028302&type=3 There are some nice pics here of No 7 and 8 including one I haven't seen before, the only pic I've seen of one of the standard gauge engines they had, No 11 https://www.flickr.com/photos/5611hongkong/8447207927/in/photostream/ Now it gets interesting! More evidence for a surviving sister of the same design. Go here: http://www.industrial-loco.org.uk/ downloads and download Contractors locos parts 1 - 6 Scroll down to find J P Edwards (P41) then on to their 3ft locos (P43) and there it is, No 6 (Union Jack) and Jack Tar supplied new to the same contrator in the same year and were presumably working side by side before they were both sold (3 years before they were built ... presumably an error!!). It's probably just utter chance that Jack Tar ended up in Africa on the Victoria Falls bridge instead of chuffing through a field near Rothwell. I'm planning a narrow gauge layout, a tempory departure from Midland main line in O. It'll be set on "Planet Tom" so plenty of licence to have No's 6,7,8 and Jack Tar. Planet Tom though is still struggling to explain the sudden and unexpected appearance of K28 No 475 and 10 bogie hoppers, but hey, it's my railway and I have always wanted one. The document also shows No 9 std gauge "Carrington". And also the large number of 3ft gauge locos that were around at the turn of the last century. Another question that needs answering, KF No 1 was a Black Hawthorn scrapped before the war, rumour says it was a crane tank? There were lots of meter and 3ft around here running all sorts of locos including two French meter gauge Corpet and Louvet locos, Nantes and Cambrai (latter is preserved at Irchester). Lots of modelling opportunities. Hope this little venture is of interest and not boring as hell! Nantes and Cambrai here and here, in Northamptonshire. http://www.ngrm.org.uk/Collections/IndustrialRailways/EastwellAndWalthamIronstoneCompany/EW008 http://www.irsociety.co.uk/Archives/60/Ironstone.htm Kind of half a Dwyryd? Tom