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The YouTubers who made reviews are only just a guideline for me. I can see what's in the box, how it looks, what you get, and get for myself an total impression. When you are on the other side of the Nordsee, its not easy to come over to the UK to see how an model looks in the real. So You Tube reviews gives me the possibillity to get a close look. But I make the decision if I want it or not, not the results of the review, because these are an personal thaught and conclusion of the reviewer,and not mine. Therefore I search for different reviews to get an total impression and some reviewers show more of the model than others and from different angles. If I had to make conclussions after reviews from Sam, I would have to let go half of the models I bought.

Very nice review by proper chuffed on You Tube, including installation of HM 7000 BTW, very nice channel to watch ,with nice and good reviews, and good camera work.

Strange Hornby is recommending the single chimney, while in this video with the double chimney it looks clearly there are two steam colums and more blast from the chimney maybe because the steam is under more pressure because the exhaust is smaller with the two holes. And no problems it looks like it. On Hornby YouTube channel about the P2, there is a text saying to use the single chimney for better resulsts, but the oposite looks better resulting.

When Sam is talking about the interiors, he even mentioned that the division walls will be decorated in art deco style. So these are gone be supercoaches in every expect Ihave a full rake on order, and hoping there will a West riding limited too in future

It is coming , just be patience

Don't think these will go by ship, they are samples one of each, so rather one big box, and no container. And it will hold up the production process for weeks, think these will go by plane if ready. As they say time is money

On Dapol 's site at the home page in the upper moving banner it says just arrived, so it seems they are at Dapol now

30:1 according Rails product informatio, so improved

I have just placed an pre order for SR green and black one. just on the edge of ordering. SECR plain green goods livery is still available.

I know what it is, 8 years ago I've experienced it myself when an Dutch department store chain after 125 years goes bankruptcy, and I after 40years working there together with more than 10000 employees lost their yobs. So I know what it is.

I placed an order on midnight just 10 hours after their announcement of closing, that was despatch a day later. 23 hours later I placed another order and between the first ordernumber and the new order number was an difference of 6722 orders, only placed in 23 hours time, so there maybe thousends more after that date. The first order I received this Tuesday , the second order I am still waiting for despatch. It must be an very big orderbook they are solving with, maybe thents of thousends, so can take a little while longer I think.

Jenny Kirk has done a review of these

The LNER B17/5 is great news, also the two bogie wagons from LMS ,GWR, and not my time period but the early 9F 92002 with sound looks tempting, have 92167 bought last year because it is the last steamloco series build in the UK, but this one looks great too. And if the Dublo Deltic will be as promised by Simon maybe this one too, missed out the Bachmann, but iconic loco. Further I do hope the promise of to catch up is holding for this year , still waiting for the Nelson class in malachite and Peckett W4 Crawshaw, both announeced in 2020 and time over time prosponed. All other releases old [very] stuff in new expensive coats as far I can see. Over the passed years my expenses were 80% Hornby 20% others, but last few years slowly this has changed to 20% Hornby and 80% others, especially the newcomers , Rapido, Accurascale, all this because Hornby did not deliver as promised over the years. Maybe this change again as they deliver what has been announced.

According Rapido facebookpage they rapported 7 hours ago these arrived in their warehouse , including dog😃, so soon by the people who directly ordered from Rapido and hopefully next week in the shops.

Just ordered another three, now there is some left stock a tri-composite , another 4 and 6 wheel third. Could'nt resist this. I did not preordered the tri-composite but it looks great too, so now I did, Have now a rake of 12 behind 4-4-0 City of London. Now awaiting for my SR and SECR ones.

Yesterday evening at 21.12 UK time got an email all my 9 GWR coaches were processed and put in my trunk, now awaiting for the SR 6 wheel tool van is processed. Hopefully the Accurascale Chaldron wagons next week and than order to ship. Now awaiting for the next batches till March

The original announcement Andy showed on page 1 of this topic was third class dining saloon numbers 7864 and7867 with an picture of the coach from Mike King. In Januari 2021 Hornby changed this on their site to third open 1363 and 1366 still with an picture of the original lined. And now they are coming unlined, you cannot depent on Hornby anymore because they changed their announcements over the time. I'm very dissapointed for the second time , the first time with the restaurant car unlined and now this one. I have over 80 lined SR Maunsell coaches and expected Hornby would extent this range with lined coaches, but no again plain green. Luckely I have a few of the open third from the other diagram they produced Lined first and second batch. This again dissapoint me. I'm buying more and more other makes they deliver what they announce.

Does'nt matter if Rapido's announcement is 30 minutes later. Their announcement is that the cat [ Rapido's Lion ] is out of the box and arrive's here in a few days time, so the cat [Lion] is under the pigeons [ Hornby] So Hornby is beaten by Rapido then in 30 minutes time

TBH, the only real Elf that's me, look left at me

Seems there is an allround price increase on Hornby site of 10% this week P2 now from 230,- to 254,99 The Nelson class anouncements from 2020 for original release price of 153,-now again went up to 205,99and 18 months to go before it is going to be released, at what price. Hornby can announce this year a lot of stuff, but what is the sence if these items take 3 years or more before to come at much higher prices than at the time of announcement. Better is like the smaller makes, not to much but in realistic timerelease for the price they announced. Maybe a little increase is neccessary over a short time to release, but not what Hornby is now doing increase over increase and delay over delay of release. So, I am more and more buying from the smaller makes who release there items in about a year time after announcement, and for the price they stated. Hornby genesis coaches are now 36,49 that will going to be a bestseller for Hattons genesis coaches for there still promissed 30,-

And Sir Martin Frobisher for summer 2023, and a price increase of 10% this year from 187,- to 205,99, and another 18 months to go for release, it will be about 250,- or higher at the time it is on the market. This way Hornby is loosing his confidence, 100,- price increase since original 153,- price anouncement at 2020, when these were announced as new models for 2020.

On this Warley local model show from 27/28-11-2021 there is an Peco stand with showing all new Bullhead points/ slips. at about 35:58 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csi1QAkkL44

For the people who want an Churchill funeral hearse coach, modellbahnunion still have this in stock for € 44,96, also all four others SR/ BR versions still in stock.

www.modellbahnunion.com have all four versions still in stock now 2 SR green, 2 BR maroon , now for only € 28,68 euro in the black friday sale. Lots of Hornby / Dapol and Bachmann items in the black friday sale, up to 30% and some even till 44%, discount on loco's coaches , wagons and buildings. I ordered yesterday a BR maroon and Bachmann SR breake down crane , this one cost only € 170,48 about 142,- pound, and still available on this moment in GWR and SR livery Have a good hunting all

There are in total 19 loco's that are now stated for winter 2023 class 800 Peckett 2x Ruston 4x SR H class 2x SR Nelson 3x BR 2MT 5x LNER J36 2x Well these were for 2020 announcements, in winter 2023 then they are 36 months on there way, Wondering what announcements Hornby makes for 2022 and when these will arrive.