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Well I never ! Thank you I never knew the HP2M had a replacement or upgrade of sorts
i thought it might have K’s pedigree from the D shape axel , in 1981 I was still working in a Bristol model shop and the then new stock silver boxed kits still had the useless HP2M in the boxes,and I have never encountered this thing until now,
thanks for the warning about reliability, but mine is going to be used as the finished kit with Romford (markits) runs fine and the armature has brass bearings so it should last longer than the plastic bearings the HP2M
as for the X04 I am a great user of MMRC /airfix 5poles in my locos that use triang chassis, I even made a Hornsby tender drive Saint loco drive with one,
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8 hours ago, cctransuk said:
As I have frequently said, I do NOT chase additional business or rely on the modest income, but I do try to provide products that will make life easier for fellow modellers.
That is not direct advertising in my book.
John Isherwood.
And not all of John’s posts are about his transfers if you look at his post history, I get the impression like all of he likes trains, and as a side line offers a service we need to us modellers rather than sitting in front of the TV
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1 hour ago, didcot said:
I'm really looking forward to my sound fitted 93. Especially as my youngest and I had a footplate ride on it.
Just for the fun of it I ask !
do you count the footplate as the bit with seats in or still on the same bit of floor, through the door where it gets a bit warmer !😀
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Perhaps it was a very short lived HP2M replacement as the 'gearbox' looks very similar.
you right the front end is very similar to the HP2M with its triangular plastic gearbox and a white spoked plastic gear,
but the motor is a five pole with proper bearings at each end and runs nicely at slow speeds, the gears D shaped axel hole is very Keyser based, if Keyser had put this in the kits not so many of Keyser motors would have ended up in the bin as it’s useable
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On 22/07/2023 at 11:00, Izzy said:
I always got the impression they were all 3/6v ‘toy’ motors that it was hoped might stay the course but generally didn’t, many replacing them with ‘better‘ ones such as the Airfix/MRRC 5 poles. Makes you realise that in general terms we’ve never had it so good in more recent times.
Bob
HP2M =Toy motors ! Well my wife calls my trains toys ! 😂
personally I still use. MRRC 1001 to replace X04 s if kit built loco from a swap meet uses a Hornby chassis
thankfull you can still find mashima,s but I don’t know what’s next when I run out
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plonker alert !
I posted the wrong picture no wonder you kept telling me I had K’s dreadful HP2M I don’t
I HAVE ONE OF THESE Why I posted that picture without checking what I had poached off the net thinking that was what I had with out getting the loco out of the to Finnish pile and looking rather than taking a picture of the real thing with my new I Pad and learning how to resize it
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Right have a new I pad let’s see if I can post a picture to help you I D this motor !
mine is the middle one in this image and it is a five pole 80% bigger in size than the keyser motor
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3 minutes ago, Porcy Mane said:
Who's Phil Parker? Was he Laddy Penelope's chauffeur/coiffeur/chuffer?
Whoever he is, I hope he gets well soon. Obviously a man outa my own boots.
Don’t know if your being serious or not ! obviously he is a fellow cake monster found on here,BRM mag and in his blog http://philsworkbench.blogspot.com/
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5 hours ago, Porcy Mane said:
As there wasn't much chance of visiting, I have compensated by eating cake all day long.
Who are you ?
Phil Parker’s replacement as he’s I’ll !
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On 02/07/2023 at 13:43, DCB said:
Next Problem is Hornby Detachable NEM Pockets work their way out of the fitting.
If this is the problem I think you are on about.. try…
packing out the fishtail with a bit of paper,to tighten the fishtail up in the socket, trim after squeezing the coupling in the socket .
if only the hook’s were so simple
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12 hours ago, mozzer models said:
thats 247 home unloaded &now eating tea
Just. Tea,of the wet sort !
haven’t you replaced that griddle yet so you could have some delicious Welsh cakes waiting for you,P S the aero wagon print looked very interesting ,
pps Bracknell was a long way to go for a plate I could have got at staplegrove, but worth it only down side was the cost at other stands far outwayed the fuel costs
i just caught the back end of the show here on the isles of wight which is why I didn’t get to use the Sunday part of the ticket !
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On 05/05/2023 at 19:13, JohnR said:
I see on ebay there is a CR Class 439 body being offered. Just such a shame its for fitting on the old Triang Hornby M7 chassis, rather than the newer Hornby one!
Well I suppose what you save on the cost of buying a modern M7 for the chassis ,will buy you a set of wheels !
and No Mazark rot with the old chassis, so it should be good for fifty years provided the body will last as long as the chassis will .
all ways look on the bright side of life ……….theirs a song in that I seem to remember
OR ! Stick with your old K’s kit that you have spent a hours if not months on to balance on its driving wheels,why did the CR put so much lineing on the thing ?
not currently in seven ash with the WSR a field away but Bracknell ! enjoying ExpoEM
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4 minutes ago, osbornsmodels said:
OK you have talked me into it. A trip up from Bideford it is then, tomorrow.
Well if I had known that I could have saved my self a visit to Bideford a couple of weeks ago,you could have brought it up with you !
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44 minutes ago, melmerby said:
Devcon 10 minute epoxy used to do that anyway after a few years☹️
Great if you want to dismember something for a rebuild.
Devcon 10 minute one of the culprits was it !
thank god for super glue, as whilst 10 minute was fast compared with the 24 hour stuff it was still a long time hold a bit in place untill it set, especially if you wanted to get on with building the kit,solder sets in seconds,it just takes awhile to build asbestos fingers,so I didn’t use epoxy much in my early kit building days
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9 hours ago, hayfield said:
further complicates matters is that all of these require wheels, gears and motor. What added value do you put on a complete kit
Personally I don’t put any extra value on e bay buys. Because you can’t be sure of how it runs, so I base my value on it being glued together, which I find often the epoxy wasn’t mixed fully and has gone rubbery Keyser,kits will need a new motor and gears,for certain wheels might, with a big might be all right then we have the updating bits to add to a old kit like sprung buffers , so I don’t see the point of paying extra for a old kit built, and then spending more than a Still available kit currant price,
I just bought a keyser bayer peacock 322 class for £57.00 and I have got away with the motor as she came with a unknown five pole open framed motor with a weird built in gearbox like the K’s hp2m dud but bigger than the gutless wonder kerser supplied,but am in the process of rewheeling her with markits,body is good to go apart from the number plates being wobbly transfers
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I won a Keyser bayer pecock 322 class loco with broken outside frame cranks, now having taken it apart to fit Romford or market wheels I found a interesting motor, it looks like a Hornby mark 7 motor,as used in things like the 14xx class, BUT !
this motor is nearly twice the physical size and has a five pole armature, and runs very well, but like the dreadful HM2P it has a built in plastic gear mount with a axel gear that fits on a D shape axel but the gear has spokes from the boss to the cogged outer rim.
The motor actually has proper brass bearings unlike the HM2P, so due to madness I am going to use it,as it seams up to it and is controllable
But who made it ?
sorry no pictures which would help you but my I Pad is twelve years old and failing,being unsupported more and more things don’t work,
I might have to stop buying trains and buy a IPad !
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Whitemetal kits include a Ks Gresley P4 part-built, possibly missing a tender sideframe
If you or the new owner when you move it on require side frames for what I think you mean is the P2 kit I have a pair left over from my kit which I fitted the tender top on a Hornby chassis giving my more pickup’s for lest cost than buying wheel sets for the tender !
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Gerrr ! What a fiddle to get the glazing in the cab quarter light windows or what ever you call the windows on a angle between the main windscreen and side ones,thair are to many ribs or tabs on the casting joins in this area,wondering if glue and glaze might be a goer ? Never used it before it’s the only job left before I can put the bogies back in as I need the axcess
by the way I said squires for new OSF for the Dean goods think I might mean south eastern fine cast/branchlines for old K’s castings,bigger problem is what motor,? Do I keep the mogul which after all is crude compared to modern RTR as a period piece with a K’s mk1 or if I can find one a mrrc 1001 slimline, as a better version of Keysers it would be better with a modern set up but I don’t think it’s worth the pennies, and the Dean goods would get a modern set up if a convert it to to the OSF type,but not as it is,as that sixty quid would go a long way towards a modern Dean goods which the sixty year old kit will never compete with
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Well I gave you all a week from telling you where you buy some cheep keyer kit built locos ! But back in Watchet today the Dean goods and mogel were still their, but have now moved and are now six miles from Watchet. And have joined the thirty six other K’s kits I have only one of which is unbuilt !
The Dean Goods might acquire out side frames to make it something different (discounting the two other OSF Dean goods I have ) if I can acquire some outside frames from squires Some day, because these will help hide the worst looking part of the kit, everything below the footplate which is why I got rid of one of these when mainline brought there’s out back in what was it 1982 ! At least this kit has romfords even if very early sort with the uninsulated are the plain rimmed type,
it came in a short orange box which is only long. Enough for the loco when built even though the lid picture shows loco and tender,it’s nicely stuck together with everything fitting with no horrendous gaps shame it’s not soldered, interesting the chassis side plates of both kits have white metal inserts rather than the brass tube spacers I am used to something to do with the age of the kit I suspect as the instructions hint at these being near the same age as me
The Mogal well I don’t know ?
it’s missing one cylinder as well as the connecting rods, I have a comet outside cylinder set I could attempt to fit but not for a long while,I am not short of things to yet having not finished the rail car yet, which looks better for having glazing, trimming a grape vine and beach hedge is getting in the way
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On 30/01/2023 at 12:27, russell price said:
Is it the version with a single driven axle or both axles driven?? I have both types but both now have modified Triang power bogies fitted.
Well their you go !
didn’t know their were two versions of power bogie, mine is driven on both axels of the bogie,it doesn’t take much imagination to work out I have the better version
I think the single axel drive unit if fitted with a triang serrated wheel (yes I know that would be hard,I am not recommend it)
would made a good track file the way it would slip.
still fiddling around with the glazing in the cabs you have to cut the glazing to a funny shape to fit the front windows and locating lumps in the cab and triangular windows between the main and side windows,but the power unit is fixed and the motor bearing stays in place
now do I bother with seats ? Or is that going way over the top for what was over classed by Lima never mind Heljan not that I have even seen one of them yet !
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O! God ! I have only gone and bought another one.
visiting the junk emporium on the promenade in Watchet on Friday their were three K’s kits ,a gwr dean goods part built and a mogul nether with a motor,requiring handrails and painting and the mogul was missing connecting rods and crossheads, these were early kits with the all metal wheels not the plastic centre sort sadly the mogul was badly quartered
resisted the temptation at £15 each,
but came home with a GWR AC railcar Nicely painted non running also £15.
spent today fitting glazing such fun ! Made a bit easier by having to remove the bogies ,well the non powered one was all ready off and having fiddled and had a right caddal later the powered one was out, to get at the windows,
found the problem, the bearing on the armature was free in the magnet jamming the armature up,it’s all cleaned up and I await the bearing lock/seal to go off over night,
I was quite surprised by how well the power bogie ran untill I realised I was going to have to glue up the bearing for a longer term fix, quite why ii am doing this other than I didn’t have one of these by K’s as I have a couple of Lima versions and two Dapol earlier types not to mention a two car set kit to do one day
some one go and rescue the other two kits before I succumb
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34 minutes ago, Gilbert said:
They were excellent but queuing for exhibitors food with a token was not very practical - we ate about 2.25pm when the queues died down...having said that we did treat ourselves to breakfast rolls at opening time...
Yes I think the popularity of the show in the morning would have pleased the show organisers, the food from the Land Rover is of good quality and not muckdonnalds,I will double check at the next Burnham. Show ( by double check you can take that as two visits to the Land Rover with a thatched roof !
by the way the wife had a steak and ale pie not a stake ! As I said in my last post
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4 minutes ago, Gilbert said:
I was helping with a layout that needed us "out front"....it was certainly busy......how was the pub out of interest?
Chris H
Well it was a marstons where I had a not to bad roast and my wife a stake and ale pie with mash, normally I eat from the Land Rover burger bar that’s outside the door when it’s at the burnham show and that’s good as well (country bumpkins catering)
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1 hour ago, Rich Papper said:
Thanks for the video Callum - I didn't see most of them!
Rich
Is that because of the crowds! Corr! Blimey it was busy as bad as warley, I went for dinner in the pub across the road and came back later when the crowds had gone down,,good show with good layouts, it might have been busy in the morning.but it was good to see loads of families with kids being shown our hobby
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Hard to tell from photos compared to real life, but it sure looks like a good start base coat, a bit like the colour Ian.Kirk coaches used to be moulded in,that I then treat to graining of ronseal woodstain of various colours took me years to get it right, just as Hornsby brought there’s out, but to least mine mix it with them without standing out, so I have been happy
might look in to this as I have one more to do about ten years since I last did one
graham