Graham456

Rodneys thanks for that ...a cunning plan is forming ! 1/16 is 1.588 mm so I might rip the motor out some when over the next couple of days and use one of my 1.5mm shafted motors with a bit of bearing fit lockseal with a pad of miliput to seat the motor on as by useing the keyser gears I have no motor mount, wondering as I type this is a ds10 a inprovment ? Remember chaps it's still a K's kit that's not worth a portescap though my two 44xx and a bulldog run lovely with them!

Thanks Rodney, when it comes to it between coming out the loco and meeting the bin I have to measure the shaft ,I was just trying to plan ahead with a motor change but no one has yet owned up to knowledge of HP2M not that I blame them HP2M wonder what HP1M was as that name didn't apply to the double ended motors that came before it .......unmade bigger disaster?

NO THANKS ! i don't want to keep it that original! I could keep it original by not changing the one that's in there keeping the original crap running abilities I do have a high level gearbox I could put in it but actually when poked the gear set runs quietly it just has a rice pudding skin non disturbing motor and changing the gear set might up the wheels hence the mad thought of only changing the motor hum ! Westdale for the star? I have a look at my Scott,s chassis for similar pointers, the only GWR M&L locos I have are 850.tanks or No111 nether likely to give clues, but thanks for the pointer as it definitely isn't S E Finecast if the kit hasn't been upgraded to many suble differences in the castings from my wills locos

What have you done ! With ? only gone and bought another blooming one.......AGAIN ! total now 34 keyser locos ...... well I some how never had a pannier from K's so when a e,mail came through from Hattons about a sale which had for one at £26.it looked O,K inconsistent runner, one day later the postman handed it to me along with a star which I am yet to work out whose make it is as their are differences in the castings from my Wills kits not to mention etched chassis for both loco and tender, might be updated south eastern finecast but theirs differences in the footplate and tender castings from my Wills locos, anyway back to K'. pannier, opening up reviled the problem why the running was inconsistent HP2M....now what ! tempted to, well no I will replace the motor for sure as I have in all my kits that came with them even did that when I was young Lad, but hear I am tempted to keep the Keyser wheels and even the gear set for mad originality reasons, after all the loco is never going to even look up to the Bachman pannier and fit another motor if a can find a replacement motor withthe HPcrap2 motors shaft size don't suppose anyone knows of the top of.your heads, the reason I just want to change the motor is so I don't disturb the wheels, Romfords will cost more than the loco and ruin its look

Right ! so on the wagon I have only the top three planks drop down making it a dia 307. Even though it's Branded store ,sleepers ? I can just about make out that only the top part might fold through the paint as the bottom three planks have corner plates,more reason to get the paint stripper out ! To get rid of. The lettering Thanks for correcting me that's one question solved before I incorrectly redo them but what about the other two six plankers with no doors in the sides what diagram are they please

Interrupting things about box van and the bars I bought a couple of wagons at Exeter toy fair for £2.50 and have just built the slaters d299 wagons and am awaiting the paint to dry before putting the M R livery on them , but I also picked up three also I guess Slaters midland liveried wagons which also have the hallmarks of being slaters kit builds but are of a longer wheelbase than the currant kit available haveing a 12" foot wheelbase one is easily identifiable as its branded as. Stores, Sleepers so is a dig 307 with its foldable drop side, but the other two with the same wheelbase have a plane side with maybe a central door? Paint is a bit thick until I attack them! Can't find the in my midland wagon book but that might because I only have volume two so theirbound to be in vol one ! Can anyone tell me what digram wagon thy are please so I can refinish them once the tar brush effect is off ! cheers mates

Well thank you all especially 5050 and the johnster for temptation dangling , so I have bought a D,J,H Barclay 14" loco I have just spent ages this morning reading the industrial section shame I didn't look in their first , but then knowing where to look is easy if you know what to look for ! I mean fancy a industrial loco turning up in the industrial section ???? DOH !

I am Well a head of you here! aged three I was given a Little blue loco named Nellie. Who still races around fifty seven years on, and I am married to a Nell ! now hopefully back to the who made the Barclay fingers crossed!

Sadly I am useing very ancient I pad 6 which I think is eleven years old and I have never found out how to reduce the image size from what this thing takes to a acceptable file size particularly with a line speed of 2mb only if the kids in the hamlet aren't online ! i know a picture is worth a thousand words particularly as it would show the interesting gear drive the top after all is a Barclay just like the Hattons one even with the same size cylinders as Hattons though I understand Hattons use the same size for all the variations of cylinder size that Barclay made so at the mo no pictures but fibre was being installed at the end of May!!!

I thought DJH did it as a starter kit but wasn't certain that was a Barclay thank you it all helps

Well happy to hear you only looked at it as I will be heading across the Bristol Channel v soon shame I have to drive the same amount if miles up the channel to cross that I then have to drive Back down the other side to get there as I am over due a visit! mine has the same wheelbase as Hattons model so it's not the same version/type of Barclay from the sound of it the old hamblins Knat looked a little bit like it with a longer w/b cheers and thanks

At last weekends Minehead toyfair I succumbed to two kit built locos,the first is a Kemilway 3mt tank with a portiscape and the second which I would like some help with knowing who's kit it is made from.the model is of a Andrew Barclay 0-4-0 saddle tank much like the Hattons so is more than likely the same prototype, the model is heavy and the cab side sheets are heavy enough to be white metal kit with a etched brass chassis, which is interesting in that it has flat bottom plate with oiling slots in it the end of the vertical mounted motors worm is seen driving a intermediate gearwhich then drives the back axel mounted gear i don't know if centre models did a A Barclay. Kit buts it's a bit fancy compared to my other centre model kits, DJH did a starter kit years ago of a industrial loco I think ?i understand someone else did a Barclay kit years ago but I can't remember who and searching the web just comes up Hattons which it isn't I know as I have one of them P,S it was cheaper than a Hattons A, B but is just as cute PPS the down side is the Mandy name plate ,,,,,,,I keep hearing barry manalow aaaaagh!

I can't see why not! if pinpoint brass bearings and axles fitted to rtr wagons plastic underframes are good enough for a wagon to travel around a layout traveling many real miles a day as the chap in lynmouth's permanent layouts every day for years, I am sure just shuttling back and fourth off a transportation wagon will last more than long enough could you off set the drive so it's just behind the wheel to clear the central spine of the transporter wagon? your going to have to try it as I expect not many other have done this graham

Thank you very much steamport southport, brake van now livered up and awaiting a coat of varnish,and finally a smidgen of dirt, it seamed a pity to open up this old kit it was almost a histeric hair loom ! But then to be built is why some one moulded it fourty years ago if not more

I have just built a old Keysers Caledonian brake van kit, such fun ! its been lurking in the to do pile for years and I have up dated it a bit, by putting hand rails,wheel bearings as it's such a lump at the back of a train! glazed windows but I have no books or idea for what the model type is supposed to be to give a running number or location a web search dosn't help other than showing up etched brass kit of a different type of four wheel brake van where the iron braceing of the body is the other way up z inverted V rarther than the kits V thanks if you can help ? Graham

Not so much as a photo charter but a test runafter a repair having screwed up the gala timetable yesterday when it wouldn't steam, much rumours around bit I think it was the spark arrester had fallen and blocked the blast pipe,

Plastic or white metal ? suspect white metal from the picture but is it?

Just a quickie ? haveing just bought a SECR R class which arrived before it was due to arrive, so promptly despached to me, haveing swapped around my spair Hornby 0-6-0 chassis under my GWR 27xx as the one I had free had a X04 type motor haveing released the correct chassis from the 27xx body I am not haveing a ponder as to what colour the wheels on a SE&CR loco should be green or black and if green is it the boiler green or tank side green which is lighter on the model ? Cheers chaps from a mainly GWR modeller who has strayed Graham

Well ! All this about the two thunderbolts hasn't changed my thoughts to buy the rapido model. Going by the Stirling single, rapido's will be the better model.but it will trundle in front of Hornby rocket type stock!

Been their and found the instructions wanting as well, But after haveing various attempts frustrate me I bought a old Hornby dublo mica for two quid at a toy fair, removed the end Hand rails from one end of that and used them as patterns to bend mine to as the ones on the HD are a bit thick, later plonked the HD micas on a ratio ten foot chassis to make use of them but keep them away from the kits

Are you going to give us a clue as to which loco so we might be able to help? i know you want a 4-6-0 chassis but wheel size and spacing affect the choice

NOT for some lucky members, I. Have a bus stop out side my house and the 28 stops very close to staplegrove hall ten minutes later ! No passport required but I do have to go through Bishops Lydeard

Hello forgive me but it is near 40 years since I used to repair these things when they were new but don't three clip to the base plates copper strip up the spring to the motor, and the other three are in the chassis so conduct the electric through that to the top clip attached to the top brush on the motor which four wheels have you arranged the pick-up to ?

A ! What ? tesco have some of those things down here in Somerset their called shopping trolleys! if some one made a 4mm model it would have to etched brass to do the sides and building that long rake of them would be FUN !

Please don't use wet and dry no matter how fine a grade,roofing felt is far to fine for the lumps to scale down enough whilst i haven't tried it the toilet paper but to me this sounds like a better bet to repasent roofing FELT ! notice it's called roofing felt not roofing gravel