BillH

Thanks, the link didn't work but I had a bit of a search using Peenmaenpool and Geoff Taylor and found several useful photos and info.

I have been trying to decide whether to have a depiction of Colchester Hythe docks down one side (on the inside hiding the fiddle yard) of my roundy roundy layout. The station I am building takes some inspiration from Colchester Hythe station but also Wivenhoe which was similar but the line from the goods yard ran to a shipbuilders rather than docks and the gasworks tramway as at Colchester. Not far from Wivenhoe was the start of the branch to Brightlingsea so my other option is a branch line/ branch terminus possibly depicting St Osyth (an extension form Brightlingsea was proposed but never built). It would include a quay but much more modest. The photos I have included are two more of Colchester Hythe, a train on the Brightlingsea branch and the Quay at St Osyth (I think a station would look good just to the right of the mill).

Some later photos when European built coasters were prominent. My father was skipper of one of these called the 'Nova L' in the 70s, it had been built in Germany during the war and the wheelhouse was made from armour plate. During the steam age the railway at Colchester Hythe was worked by J70s and prior to them Sentinels and a Y5 with tram skirts.

Here are a few photos of Colchester Hythe from the Colchester history facebook site, featuring a small travelling crane with coal grab. You can also see from these photos and others prior to WWII a lot of the coasters were Thames Sailing barges. There were about 2000 registered in 1914 and the last one trading under sail was the 'Cambria' which went out of trade in 1979. Several were later used as motor barges certainly up until the 1990s, these days many still exist as yachts there are a couple of kits out there suitable for S or OO. These barges were not restricted to the Thames Estuary with many trading along the South and East coasts.

Thanks for that peak experience I will have a look at it.

Thanks for the YouTube link Justin1985 I will try to have a look at the relevant MRJ copy as a mate of mine gets them. Tollesbury is actually quite close to where the photo was taken, between Brightlingsea and St Osyth so quite appropriate.

Hi, I was just wondering if anyone has had a go at modeling a salt-marsh like in the photo below? If so what techniques and materials did you use for the samphire plants and the wet mud. Cheers

I am hoping for a J69, the N7s seem to have sold well and Oxford have said they intend to work through the variations of the class. I think a lot of people that bought N7s would buy J67/68/69s plus they are relevant to other areas such as Scotland. Oxford also seem keen to do something in GER blue so the J69 would be a good candidate. I think a Liverpool st Pilot twin pack J69/N7 would be a nice collector item. Failing that I would certainly buy a Tillbury tank, which has a nice variety of liveries to choose from.

Everyone's situation is different of course but the best move I have made in regards to railway modeling is to stop buying magazines. I used to subscribe to Model Rail and frequently bought BRM, Hornby and Railway Modeller, plus various railway magazines. I stopped buying mags and instead bought tools and timber and started building a layout. Not buying magazines helped me stop being an armchair modeler and actually have my own (not yet completed) layout rather than just look at the layouts other people have built. Also there was a time when all of the information and reviews of new and upcoming models was in the magazines, but of course now there are the forums, facebook groups youtube etc. Finally the printed magazines just take up so much space. That all being said I appreciate that some people like to have a reference collection of magazines and enjoy getting them each month.

Hi, I recently received a copy of the 1956 summer Colchester line carriage working instructions and have some questions on a couple of trains that ran from the Birmingham and Leicester to Clacton-on-sea in Essex and return each Saturday. The first left Leicester at 8.15 am and was made up of BSK,SK, SK,SK,CK,SK,BSK and between the 14th July and 18th of Aug BSK,SK,SK,SK,CK,CK,SK,SK,SK,BSK. The notes indicate the coaches were coded BS which means British Standard gangway also that they were LMR stock. The second left Birmingham at 8.50 am and was comprised of BSK,SK,SK,CK,CK,SK,SK,BSK they were also British Standard gangway and LMR stock. My questions are as follows, What coaches would have been used for these sorts of services, with a view to modeling would it be appropriate to use period III stock, Porthole stock and/or Mk 1s? What liveries would the coaches likely be wearing in the 1954-1956 time frame, all blood and custard or a mix with earlier LMS livery? What locomotives would have hauled such trains and would they have changed loco from an LMR to an ER loco at some point in the trip? If they did change loco what shed would the ER loco most likely have come from eg. March, Cambridge etc? Does anyone know of any photos of these trains? The model I am building is a fictitious station between Colchester and Clacton and I am hoping for a train from a different region to provide a bit of variation even if it is just the coaches. Thanks in advance for any answers. Bill

Thanks Harlequin, basically what you are suggesting is how I had planned the station previously. My original thought was to have the branch trains pass through (to terminate at a larger town) and reverse off scene. I then decided that I wanted the fiddle yard a bit more hidden from view so I would need to reverse them at the station. My plan was as you suggest to have the bay platforms and the main station building on the outside platform (which is the up line in this case). The problem with that is that I intended the town to be situated higher than the railway (the plan doesn't show this) then the road would be too steep to get to the station. I could put the station at road level with steps down and that could probably be made to look quite good, but I am particularly keen to have the standard Tendering Hundred Railway style station building and that wouldn't work in that situation. I could still have bay platforms on the up side however, and I will put some track down and see what it looks like. The second bridge the one furthest left is actually a road bridge with footpath and provides road access to the maltings,quay etc. it is also more importantly a scenic break as the curve is a bit tighter than I would like here to allow a larger curve at the other end of the layout. I will adjust the station and probably shorten/skew the spur slightly so it can be used for end loading. I like the idea of just a pair of trailing crossovers (one by the station building and one by the signal box) and getting rid of the crossing near the end of the down platform as then I can get back to track laying (at least on the down side) and don't have to wait for the peco bullhead crossing to be available. Cheers Bill

Thanks DavidCBroad, that's the kind of feedback I'm looking for. I did consider a crossover in front of the station as an option would I then also remove the one at the end of the station platform into the yard? As three crossovers seems a bit excessive. The point about the signal box placement is also relevant if I were to put in the points going into the loop as you have marked I think I would probably move the signal box to the island platform. The track that I have used so far (and am currently waiting for) is the new code 75 peco bullhead. In regard to the goods yard it is based loosely on this Possibly I should add a second siding running past the goods shed to provide space to park the pick up goods. Or else have a J70 run over from Colchester Hythe to shunt the yard and have it ready for the goods or possibly do both. You are also right about the circulating large passenger trains while I am shunting the yard or the branch. Here is an excursion returning from Clacton on sea being tried out for clearance on the large curve I already have in place. And some rough mock ups of the station area and loop.

Hi everyone, I have been re-working my trackplan for an East Anglian through station in the mid 50s and would like some input into weather it would be realistic for running practices of the time. Particularly in regard to how I will deal with a branch train reversing. There will ultimately be a branch from a junction at the right hand end which will run in front of a fiddle yard at the top. My main query is if a branch train ran in from the right, turned into the island platform loop via the single slip by the signal box and stopped at the platform; would it then be appropriate to for the loco to simply run around the island platform to get on the other end of the train? Even though this would mean being on the wrong line for the length of the platform. Or would it be necessary to have a crossover beyond the road bridge (this area will be built up so I would hope to avoid it if I can). Also would the Island platform loop require catchpoints as it would be for passenger train use only. Any other suggestions are more than welcome also, the set up of the yard by the maltings is not final by any means, just a impression of Colchester Hythe and Wivenhoe from where the plan draws most of its inspiration. Cheers Bill

Here is another more picture of what I presume to be the same camping coach at Brightlingsea in 1936 https://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-photo/bank-holiday-in-a-camping-coach-nearly-500-camping-coaches-news-photo/1053856492 and a train of them at Loughton where students from Scotland are staying during a trip to London in 1937. https://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/news-photo/college-boys-camping-coach-coronation-holiday-42-boys-with-news-photo/1053856470 they look similar in style to the one which features on the poster, although that is clearly an ex- brake coach.

This is certainly an interesting development, while I don't think I will use them on the layout I am currently building (as I would only need a couple so may as well build the kits and have the correct coach), I do think that if someone were to introduce something like a GER blue T26 (LNER E4) then I would get a set to put behind it. Will also be interesting to see if the GER ones have the Jazz service colour coding stripes. I think that if this gets more people modeling the pre-grouping then that is a good thing, particularly if it ultimately leads to a greater diversity of RTR products of pre-grouping origins. Another interesting use/livery would be camping coaches particularly in the attractive LNER green and cream of the late 30s such as this https://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/news-photo/22nd-june-1936-a-family-holiday-in-a-fitted-lner-railway-news-photo/51239878