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By the way, have you seen the views of Clevedon from 'Britain from Above'? Zooming into https://britainfromabove.org.uk/sites/all/libraries/aerofilms-images/public/580w/EPW/033/EPW033274.jpg https://britainfromabove.org.uk/sites/all/libraries/aerofilms-images/public/580w/EPW/001/EPW001030.jpg will reveal an amazing amount of detail!

My pleasure, glad they are of use!

You could have seen six Austerity 2-8-0s on the Detmold Military Railway between 1946 - 1948.

There were two different lengths of Gangwayed Bogie Luggage vans with two different distances between bogie centres in three combinations: Diagram 3100: length 51'3", bogie centres 36'3": nos 2281-2330 Diagram 3098: length 51'3", bogie centres 34'3": nos 2331-2354, 2482-2490 Diagram 3099: length 53'3", bogie centres 36"3': nos 2355-2370, 2461-2481 Hornby's are, by their running numbers, of Diagram 3099, rendering them suitable for Casualty Evacuation Trains 32 - 34 {later renumbered 332 - 334 to avoid confusion with Home Ambulance Trains}, Home Ambulance Train 68*, and Overseas Ambulance Train 47* Diagram 3098 GBLs could be found in HAT 67*, and OAT 47* * Records are incomplete for the SR sourced HATs and OATs. Some CETs on disbandment had their GBLs transferred to make up HATs and OATs. GBLs were used as Stretcher Vans in CETs and as Ward Cars in HATs and OATs; the nine each (originally ten each) in CETs retained their Southern Railway numbers the six each in HATs 67 and 68 were designated A1 – A3, A4 – A6; numbered (train number) 03 – 05, 07 – 09 respectively the seven each in OATs 36, 37 and 47 were designated A1 – A4, A5 – A7; numbered (train number) 02 – 05, 07 – 09 respectively The 4mm scale difference in the body lengths and bogie centres is 2/3 mm, less than a 1% discrepancy.

Sorry, forgot to mention 2021 Class 2048 which lasted as a saddle tank until 1952. See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GWR_2021_Class

Nos 1925 and 2007 lasted until 1951 and 1949, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GWR_850_Class

Having just now late in your day having come across your project, more strength to your arm. Coincidentally, last week I finished scanning my photos of the Clevedon Branch which was my first note of railways, having lived my first six years with Clevedon Station across the playing fields at the end of Kingsley Road. Visiting the closed line on half term holidays from boarding school, I walked the line and took some photos of remaining features. Picking up on a few points mentioned, please find by way of attachment - a photo of Kingston Bridge looking down {towards Clevedon} the line, the other side of your backscene - photos of the buffer stop at Clevedon platform as dragged up the line after the run-round loop and sidings were taken out - a photo of the transition from concrete to wooden sleepers - a photo of the transition from bullhead to flatbottomed rail - photo of Rust Bridge The Western Region Chief Civil Engineer's drawings of the bridges and doubtless other works were sent to the NRM, York Cheers, Rob J. E. Bayliff

In Steam around Bristol, Railways of the 1950s and 1960s in colour, the photographs of Mark Warburton presented by Gerry Nichols; Crécy Publishing Ltd., Manchester; 2nd Edition 2018: ISBN 9781909328822, there are two photos of a Yatton Junction - Clevedon train headed by BR lined green with BRB totem 0-4-2T 1412 hauling an unlined maroon and an unlined crimson Hawksworth auto trailers on 07 June 1959. On page 38 there is a photo of the same set, certainly ECS, passing Bristol West Depot. To quote from https://www.lner.info/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9550&start=15, "To pick up on a point from earlier in the thread, when BR introduced its first standard liveries in 1949, non-gangwayed stock and at least some non-passenger stock was painted in BR crimson with lining (the same style as on a crimson and cream carriage, with the black adjacent to where the cream would have been). Lining on non-gangwayed crimson stock was abandoned around 1951 on cost grounds. This lack of lining carried over into the post-1956 BR maroon period, with lining on non-gangwayed stock not being reintroduced until around 1958-9 and even then not applied consistently." Other photos in Steam around Bristol in the 'Yatton and the Clevedon Branch' section {pages 40 - 44} show a compartment auto trailer in unlined maroon with lined maroon Hawksworth auto trailer taken on 31 July and during August 1960. In The Clevedon Branch, Colin G. Maggs, Wild Swan Publications Ltd, Didcot, 1987: ISBN 0 906867 52 5, Hawksworth auto trailers 226 and 233 are mentioned {page 16}. Photos, black and white, showing unlined ?crimson? and crimson and cream appear on page 34 dated June 1956 and 24 May 1953 respectively and possible maroon plus crimson unlined autotrailers on pages 41 and 49 dated 13 June and 30 August, 1957 both. See also Colourrrail {location & area Yatton} Reference 390661 Class 1400 Loco number 1454 Image date 28/04/1957 with an unlined crimson auto trailer.

Chris Apologies for this late response to your post of 10 march 2017 regarding the provenance of the photo of LNWR pattern 12T covered wagon WD 34051. It is from the Historical Model Railway Society's Hurst Nelson Collection - see https://hmrs.org.uk/photographs/war-dept-wc1-12t-sliding-door-van-3401-op-ca1914-f3r-wooden-solebars-disc-wheels.html Rob

How about the way it was when DW150265, C.M.&E.E's Department Electrical-New Works Messing and Sleeping Van; seen at the former Clevedon Branch bay at Yatton Junction on 18 July 1969?

I don't have J. Lewis' book to hand and have a query about the blood and custard liveried Bachmann auto trailers. I have seen on eBay BNIB a version with the carriage number at the right hand end and another with the larger carriage number at the left hand end. Can anyone enlighten me as to the correctness / periods?

Railway author, photographer, and member of the World War Two Railway Study Group Ben Brooksbank sadly passed away 20 February. His photographs spanned the later war years through BR steam, his books included London Main Line War Damage, The East Coast Main Line 1939 - 1959 {co-authored with Peter Tuffrey, Train Watchers: No1; and The Route of the Flying Scotsman: Triumph and Beyond, Pt 2. As the second editor of the World War Two Railway Study Group Bulletin,he maintained and developed the standard set, enabling the Bulletin to develope into the wide interest publication it is today. His role in writing the script for the British railway section of DD Video's 'Steam at War' helped set the scene for the WW2RSG becoming a point of reference for war-time railway information. His assistance in procuring the loan of W. Dendy's war time photographs laid the foundation for the WW2RSG's photo archive and photo sales. Although in latter years he was of emertitus status, he will be missed by those who knew him. His funeral will be held at North East Surrey Crematorium on 20th March at 4pm.

eastglosmog's post of 19 June 2017 - 18:19 says "Not seen any positive evidence that Portishead carried an air brake pump when owned by the GWR. No positive evidence she didn't, either!". I attach two photos of WC&PR Terrier No 2 'Portishead' in GWR days. First the GWR photo of the locomotive in Clevedon WC&PR shed on 18 September 1940 upon return from refurbishment at Swindon with air pump and then Real Photographs photo of the locomotive in BR days down Newton Abbot way with GWR shed code 'TN': Taunton without air pump. Take your pick / choose your period, noting also the condensing pipes &c!

The War Department had many 12T seven plank opens (with side doors only) constructed by a number of British wagon builders, likewise 12T LNWR pattern 12T covered wagons for shipment to France in support of the British armies. An example is attached