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  1. Yes, I was slightly bemused by it! I found it in my box of stuff which I’ve bought but not yet commissioned for the layout. In the case of locos that involves chipping as a minimum and should also involve weathering, lamps, coal and crew but doesn’t always. The thing about this one is that I have no recollection of buying it or any idea when I bought it or where it came from! Nice problem to have I suppose.
  2. I’ve done some more haulage tests on my west riding rake. I tried: A DJH A2, 60528, fitted with a Portescap A DJH A1, 60119 fitted with a GB1 motor gearbox combo. a Bachman A1, 60146 renumbered from 60130 but otherwise standard. Hornby A/2, 60501 straight out of the box All managed the train comfortably which is reassuring. The best was the A2 which I bought from ‘sir’ last summer when I visited. It was from one of the estate sales. It romped round with no appreciable drop in speed at any point. 60119 and 60501 both slowed a little on the bend and uphill section but managed comfortably. But the best news was that Bachmann A1, Peregrine managed fine as well. As with 60119 and 60501 there was a slight dip in speed on the uphill section and bend but nothing too bad. This is one of what I call the middle batch of Bachmann A1s so gives me a way forward for the train. I hope that a simple body swap with my blue 60118 will yield a blue A1 capable of hauling the train. I’ve just found a Bachmann Meg Merrilies which I’d forgotten I had, so will see if that will do the job.
  3. Today the DMU which has been sitting patiently in platform 1 finally gets its moment in the spotlight. Here we see it ready to depart for Dunstable. and here passing the gasometers. and here’s the video.
  4. Chas, I think Tony has summed it up pretty well. The only other regular working in Scotland that I’m aware of is the TO-RT pairs which worked the ‘junior Scotsman’ each way (one in each set) between King’s Cross and Glasgow. Regards Andy
  5. Today’s picture I actually took some time ago and forgot. It’s 60506, Wolf of Badenoch on a Peterborough 5 set. This loco was the one I built when I went to stay with ‘sir’ to learn about kit building and is the first working chassis that I built (with a lot of help). So it’s rather special to me and despite the Hornby version probably being better it will stay in the fleet. Here’s the video.
  6. Thanks fir the suggestion but I think that would be too solid. The NEM arrangement works because of the flex in the pocket itself. See below for a view of the gas trip wagons. The couplings on these are rather chunky but still better than most of the alternatives IMHO. I wonder whether I could permanently couple them in rakes of 4 with 0.45mm brass wire between the wagons. This would be almost invisible while still providing support in a springy way while reversing. Any thoughts? Andy
  7. I’ve done a bit more digging on the West Riding. The ex West Riding twin FO was destroyed in the Huntingdon fire but an ex Coronation one was drafted in to replace it and seems to have lasted until it went to the Master Cutler in about 1954. It’s certainly shown as twin FO in the Summer 1953 CWN. It then came back to the ECML to do the Talisman from 1956. After the fire there was no spare and I think this is when the Thompson FO may have appeared on occasion. The permanent allocation of the Thompson FO was probably at the same time or shortly after the back of the train went Mark 1. If Hornby ever produce the twin FO in blood and custard I will have one for my rake as it will replace what is, at best, a rare occurrence. I don’t have to worry about the extra door as this rake is around the time of the fire. In terms of livery, I’m sure I read somewhere that they were all painted blood and custard before re-entering service after the war. However I can’t find that reference now and there is this footage of a blue twin on the Aberdonian which I first saw on your thread from, I think, Tom Foster. Scroll to the very end (c.25 mins). https://player.bfi.org.uk/free/film/watch-great-north-of-scotland-railway-films-1963-online?fbclid=IwAR3OY3fAw1w8VXsVj5EIo-R7DkkLIo3GfmuLp0ynVg8dGgUVmhJ5tmdnZww I hope this helps. Andy
  8. I agree totally. The series of Steve Banks articles in the mid naughties titled ‘Eastern Secondary services in Transition’ was superb and I refer to them more than any other old model railway magazine article.
  9. Evening Tony, It is fascinating isn’t it! I could have given you chapter and verse on it when I formed this rake up but that was 3 or 4 years ago and my memory is not what is was. I will try and dig some research out tomorrow but what I can say in the meantime is that the 1951 CWN shows the train with first six coaches being the three ex Coronation twins and then mainly Thompsons but with two Gresleys towards the rear like on mine. The 1954/5 CWN shows it with two ex Coronation artic twins and the Thompson FO vice the twin FO but with the rest of the train as mark 1s. There is a photo of it like this in the Power of the A1s a few pages after yours with 60131 at the head. I can’t add much on the livery but the photo of 60131 definitely shows the cream band stretching below the windows. I’m sure I read somewhere that they were all repainted from the blue livery before entering service after the war but there is a picture of the twin on the Aberdeen sleeper in blue. Now time for Match of the Day so I will sign off for tonight. Best Regards Andy
  10. Thanks John, I do appreciate your comments. I find the feedback very helpful and enjoy the discussions. it’s a renumbered ‘North British’. So one of what I call the middle batch. Much better than the first two, but not as strong as the most recent ones with the DCC chip in the tender. I only have two of the latter, 60117 which is straight out of the box with no weight and 60139 which I bought second hand. Both pull very well. it’s not weight or springing. I have added some lead but the wheels don’t slip. It just can’t cope on the bends or slight (unintentional) inclines and grinds to a halt with a nasty hum from the motor. I think I will try my DJH ones on it tomorrow. They’re green so not really suitable, but it might suggest a way forward. The problem with the WD is reversing into the kick back in the fiddle yard which is across some relatively old Peco points (the ones with the fat frogs - with hindsight definitely a false economy to reuse them!) and then round a c.4 foot radius curve ending behind the viaduct back scene. All in all a bit tight. These photos may give you an idea. The WD is behind the green SR van and has to reverse across the points to the right. The problems come with wagons buffer locking as the buffers ride over each other either round the curve or on the uneven bits through the points. The ones with 3 links are worse which include the 21 toners which are old colourful Hornby ones repainted. What I should really do is rip up and re-lay the point work but that would mean dismantling the shelves above which would be a lot of work. The other solution would be to fit all the wagons with the fixed 3 links like on the 10 which do the gas trip, but that would require retrofitting NEM pockets to a lot of wagons. I will give it further thought but as it’s on the non scenic side it’s not top of the priority list - visitors don’t see it! Thanks, but that may drop off now as I’m out of self isolation. I went back to my beloved QPR this afternoon to see us snatch a glorious 89th minute winner - hence the delayed response.
  11. thanks Tony. I’ll drop Debbie an email reminder as well. I think you’d be mad not to use the RTR mark 1s. They’re pretty good and very reasonably priced - at least second hand which is how I source nearly all of mine. But neither you or I would use the wrong mark 1 in a formation because the right one wasn’t available RTR! I have a handful of kit built/ bashed mark 1s but they’re all for vehicles that aren’t (or weren’t in the case of BSOs) available RTR. These comprise some BSOs, 3 of the Doncaster 1957 one off prototypes, an RK and an RSO (for the heart of Midlothian). To be fair they do a lot of how to articles on DCC - particularly sound fitting. I appreciate that these would leave you cold but I sometimes find them useful. I subscribe at the moment - but only because it was on special offer! Normally I buy the odd one which interests me.
  12. I find MR is very scenery orientated. You will get how to articles on static grass or water features but rarely on building rolling stock. That doesn’t float my boat so I don’t but buy it, but I’m sure others find it great.
  13. Next up was a real problem rake. This is the west Riding c.1951. This is one of my heaviest rakes and it has always been at the limit for a Bachmann A1 and many of my kit built locos struggle as well. However, on starting it up from the fiddle yard, the loco was really struggling and ground to a halt on the bend out of the station - not wheel slipping, just an ominous hum from the motor! I tried my more modern Bachmann A1, LNER green 60117 and that could manage the rake with a bit of a struggle whereas in the past it has been fine. And to make matters worse, the train derailed in several places! So I decided that a full coach service was in order. I cleaned the wheels, oiled the bearings and checked the back to backs on every coach. After that 60117 managed easily but the coaches still derailed. I replaced some of the hook and goalpost couplings with 0.45mm brass wire instead of the 0.7mm with which they were fitted and replaced a tension lock which was hooking into a ‘goal’ with wire as well. ‘Sir’ has always told me that 0.45mm wire is better as it gives some spring. This sorted all of the problems apart from one which was the centre bogie on an artic pair. I turned that through 180 degrees and it was fine - no idea why as it looks symmetrical but I’ll mark it now and leave well alone. This is quite a topical rake as it Includes two of the ex Coronation artic pairs which are much discussed at the moment after Hornby’s announcement. This one is Mailcoach sides with the rest from bits and pieces which I built myself having got one of the last few pairs of sides from Coopercraft. The other is all metal ex Gamston bank as mentioned on Wright Writes recently. This is the one which was causing all the problems with hook and goalpost couplings and bogies the wrong way round but is hopefully sorted now. The rake is a bit of a compromise because I don’t have a crimson and cream ex coronation FO pair. I use a Thompson FO (Southern Pride on Bachmann) instead. I know they substituted from time to time in the early ‘50s so that is what I am modelling. Later on a Thompson FOreplaced the Coronation FO pair. However that was after the back of the train went mark 1 and I like the all LNER look. Having sorted the running with 60117, I tried 60118 again. It can now manage, but it struggles, so I will stick with 60117 for now. 60117 was painted blue in July 1050 and my rake is based on 1951. I don’t have a CWN for 1950, so I just have to hope the formation was similar then. I will have to experiment with ways of beefing up a blue A1 for the rake - maybe a chassis swap. So while you got 60118 for the photo above, you have 60117 in the video.
  14. I agree. I get the impression that they get as close as possible with RTR and think that’s good enough. That’s why I’m working with BRM to do an article which includes the research side and some kit building to produce really prototypical formations. It’s gone a bit quiet at their end at the moment but I’m hopeful for some time this year. Andy
  15. I’ve been doing a lot of running this week, so I’ve got a backlog of pictures. Therefore I thought I’d show a second one today. This is WD 2-8-0, 90559, on the down coal empties. Remember that all the trains I’m running at the moment live in the fiddle yard rather than in cassettes or other storage. For a long time I didn’t have a coal empties, but this one fits with 30 wagons in a lay back siding and the other 10 come from the empties off the coal trip as shown above - you may recognise the first 10 wagons! These are combined in the fiddle yard to give a decent length train. This one runs very smoothly, but I find it impossible to get it back into the lay back siding without some derailments - any tips gratefully received. Here is the video.
  16. This is one of the more complex manoeuvres on a Gresley Jn, the arrival of the coal trip and departure of the empties. It’s hauled by a J50, 68929 in this case and the move starts by dropping off the brake van in platform 2. Then the loaded coal wagons are placed in the coal siding as seen below. from there the J50 collects the empties from a different siding and backs them into the brake van. This move is shown in the video which, be warned, is quite long today (4 mins). After that the wagons depart for the North but I didn’t capture that part. This train took some shaking down. I’m sure it used to operate ok but I couldn’t get the reversing part to work without derailments. Perhaps I was less fussy when not videoing! I ended up replacing all the coupling with fixed 3D printed 3 link couplings which fit into the NEM pockets. It previously had the similiar ‘floppy’ versions but they allowed buffer lock. The wagons are fixed in rakes of 3 or 4 with Hunt magnetic couplings inbetween to make transporting easier. I also had to replace an old Mainline style wheel set with Romfords. The rake now behaves itself.
  17. I like the L1s but they weren’t a great success by all accounts. I really fancy an A5 and I have one half built. Whether I finish it before the RTR one arrives is debateable!
  18. I did indeed. You more or less gave me the Coronation set in order to persuade me to buy the Silver Jubilee which was much more fully priced - it was value for money but at the time was the most I'd spent on model railway kit in one day, so I had to swallow hard! It is indeed that set. Here is a link to it running on Gresley Jn. It doesn't get that much use as it's out of period for me but it is a beautiful 'objet'! I'd have thought they'd do the West Roding first - much easier! Here's my version which you also sold to me (on my first visit). Mine is ex Gamston Bank. I seem to remember that I came to buy an ex Coronation twin and ended up with this as well. Another expensive day! All the best Andy
  19. Today we see why the J6 was recessed. It’s an outer suburban service headed by L1, 67785. This is the standard mid/ late ‘50s outer suburban non corridor formation. The video shows it starting away from the station and follows it round the layout as far as I could panning the iPhone on my tripod. The control is not as smooth as I’d like as it’s really a two person job but my daughter, who normally helps, can’t come near me because of Covid! It’s slightly longer than normal but I hope you agree it’s worth it.
  20. Hi Tony, My J6 was the first kit built chassis I built after I’d been to see ‘Sir’ and had some tuition. I was definitely still learning and it may not be as friction free as it should be. Plus the loco is all white metal and quite heavy. So it may not be a fair test of the poor motor which seems to run fine on the bench. The Mitsumi I used is one of the ones sold by John Isherwood at Cambridge Custom Transfers https://www.cctrans.org.uk. I’m told you can get similar motors even cheaper on ebay but there is a large selection so I’m happier going for a recommended one as I’m no expert. This one had holes to match the gearbox and the same shaft diameter at the Mashima so it was a straight swap (apart from a lot of white metal filing to get it to fit!). There was some discussion on this on Wright Writes a few days ago starting here.
  21. It was indeed me that you sold it to. I had some fun with it but, as you say, it wasn't very good quality and that annoyed me after a while. So I sold it on eBay about 18 months ago when I heard rumours about Hornby bringing one out. I was beginning to miss it, so I'm quite pleased that Hornby have finally decided to produce one I still have the very nice Silver Jubilee which you sold me on the same day. Andy
  22. Next up I feature the repaired J6. As explained above, this was sitting on my engineers’ train but could barely move it so was removed for repairs. A new motor later and she is better than ever. The old motor, a Mashima 1220, was seriously underpowered for the job but the new Mitsumi performs well. Today she is hauling a down oil trip and is recessing as Gresley Jn hence the need to cross to the goods loop. I’m sorry this is a bit grainy, I think I zoomed in a bit further than my iPhone is capable of! Here’s the video.
  23. Thanks both, The self centering had never occurred to me but I suppose it makes sense. I stripped it out with no problems that I remember - I can’t even remember which loco it was now! Andy
  24. I’ve had one like that which I bought off ebay. It also took me a while to figure out what was wrong! Even weirder, I bought one loco which was correctly fitted with live drivers on one side, but the builder had also put pick ups to all the wheels including the live ones. Why?!!!
  25. I ran some more trains yesterday - this Covid is good at forcing me to play trains! D5312 left with the quad art set and was replaced by this rare spotted beast. If a driver was relieved to get off a Baby Deltic without it breaking down then they’d be truly amazed with one if these! I’ve only seen one photo of one working on a passenger train on the GN whereas there are lots of the Baby Deltics. So whether a scene like this ever happened, I’ve no idea. But I’ve bought the loco, so I’m going to use it! …and here’s the proof that mine, at least, works.
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