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  1. Good Afternoon, I'm after some advice in regards to parting with a layout. Due to space, time, commitment and larger scale interests the time has come for me to part with my exhibition Layout Potterbourne. This post is not meant to be an "Ad" by any means or ways, and if it comes across in such a way I am happy for the post to be taken down/removed. Having not been in this situation before, I am solely after some advice from fellow modellers on: a. The best place to list/advertise a layout. b. How you value a layout in respects to selling it. For those of you who don't know anything about PotterBourne, to give you a basic overview it is a small GWR Branchline Terminus approx 10ft x 2ft, it's fully collapsible and I would look to advertise it complete with the lighting unit and all required power supplies and basic controller to allow the new owner to operate the layout. The sale could also include 3 adjustable trestles which support the layout and allow it to be mounted at any height, I would also be happy to hold on to them for future projects if the new owner did not want them. I am happy to sell it complete with the stock, but I have a fair idea of what I would like for this I am just struggling with how to value the layout itself. Any thoughts or guidance would be much appreciated. Thanks in Advance Regards Josh
  2. Good Morning All. Sorry to bump this one back up, but my friend is now looking to get the main platform starting signal constructed along with the main home signal. Unfortunately I have lost the most recent drawing for what we think is correct arrangement for these signals but in short. Starter Signal. As previously drawn above, 4 main arms, 2 for each platform indicating either the branch or main has been set for the train along with two shunting signals. One to facilitate shunting on the branch and the other to facilitate shunting onto the main. Home Signal. A little different from what was initially suggested above. Still with two main arms one indicating the main platform and the other to indicate the branch platform. In addition to this it was suggested that there should be 2 shunting signals, one to indicate shunting into the main platform (if occupied) or into the loop and another to indicate shunting into the bay platform (if occupied) or into the yard. Although we are confident in the arrangement of the main arms, the concern is more to do with the shunting signals mounted on the same post. Would one shunting signal be enough? He would there be a separate one for the branch and main as described above. Any thoughts on the above would be greatly appreciated before construction begins on the signalling.
  3. Good Afternoon All, I'm currently in the process of moving, and during this time I've took some time out to reflect on my layout PotterBourne and its future. ​For those of you who remember and for the benefit of those that don't, Potterbourne was started a mere 9 years ago on the old forum shown in the link below. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=27913 Over the following years, I went on to exhibit the layout at various shows around the country with a group of local modellers where I discovered the various delights of exhibiting, something which I do miss from time to time and hope to get back to in the future. The last few years have been quiet on the exhibition front and on modelling in general. I've taken some time out to develop my career and voluntary footplate work, and in doing this have only managed to pick up bits and pieces in 2mm Finescale, 00 and 7mm but haven't exactly stuck to any of them but have learnt many things along the way, oh and also have various shelves full of half started and finished items of stock, track work, buildings, etc! Going forward, I hope to stick to 7mm and develop my small Cameo Layout "Easton Mill" along with my locomotive and rolling stock building skills, and also help with a larger 7mm layout with a local friend. Anyway - Back to PotterBourne! With all of this in mind and with moving, I feel that PotterBourne has come to the end of its time with me. As much as I have enjoyed creating, developing and the time away with the layout; it has always been a bit of a hindrance to set up at home due to its foot print and lack of available space to set it up. With the new 7mm project, I can't envisage the space or time to keep PotterBourne and I think inevitably in the not to distant future it will be offered for sale for somebody else to hopefully enjoy and possibly continue to exhibit if they so wish. With all this said, I've created this topic to hopefully collate and showcase pictures and information about the layout which I can reflect back on once it has moved on and also answer any questions anyone has about it. So without further ado, here is a snippet of some of the pictures taken by Paul Bason when the Layout featured in BRM in May 2013.
  4. Hi Pete, Thanks for your bump! Things are still progressing at there usual rate of all or nothing! I haven't really done a great deal in 2mm recently but the layout has progressed a little bit since the last update so I'll try and dig out some pictures. The layout was built inside a cameo style box and some more ballasting and weathering was completed. Unfortunately, as I was testing things further, it appeared where I have thinned the ply to suit the depth of the bridge the ply has some what warped a little, and I fear enough to cause somewhat problems with the tolerances in 2mm. Since then, I have sort of came to a dead stop as I couldn't really fathom a way to rectify the problem without causing some form of destruction! As it was then placed onto the shelf which it so nicely fits on in the workshop, I have since been somewhat distracted by some 7mm temptations, and I am now on my 6th or 7th Parkside kit I think..... and I have also in the true spirit of starting something else without finishing my previous project started on a 7mm Cameo Layout Easton Mills, which along with firing on a preserved line and a new job has somewhat taken over what time I have for modelling, let alone 2mm! I would like to get back to it at some point, and maybe need to do some rethinking on the "hump" and find a solution.
  5. Thanks for the reply again Chris So do you think the home signal the correct arrangement?
  6. Thanks 28xx - I am only planning on using one Analogue DC Controller or one DCC Controller. It is just to allow flexibility for other people to run their stock on the layout. I had planned to fuse them individually inside the box as I appreciated I could not rely on the fuse in the plug. Would I need to use say a 5A for the Plug and 3A for the individual channels to avoid the weakest fuse blowing first as if I used 3A inside and 3A in the plug I presume this would be the outcome? I presume there is no reason these could not be done with panel mounted holders either? Perhaps on the a different side of the box and clearly labelled though so they were easily identifiable from the output channels. Thanks for the calculation Cliff, do you think I could get away with 1A fuses for the individual inputs then and then a 3A in the mains plug? Indeed, I am just worried about interference for using one channel for two or three outputs, as I have had lamps flicker before when using electromagnets and likewise when using a controller....
  7. Good Evening, I am currently designing how I am going to wire up a new 7mm layout - As part of this I would like to build a floor standing power supply unit with one 230V plug with various power rating outputs, which then has a single multicore lead that connects to the layout. This keeps the mains power separate from the layout, reduces the overall layout weight and also allowing it to be used with other layouts in the future. In doing so, I am looking at building a self enclosed metal box which which will contain panel mounted transformers to give these various outputs. I appreciate this is always a weary subject and am fully aware of the risks with mains voltage, but the equipment will be tested by competent electricians before use. For the layout I think I need the following supplies: Tortoise Point Motors - 15v AC DC Controller - 16 to 18v AC (1 to 1.5 Amps) DCC Controller - 10 to 15v DC (2 to 3 Amps) Stepper Motor - 12v DC (2 to 3 Amps) Electromagnets - 12v DC Possibly a 12v DC for Buildings Lights? I don't mind supplying the fascia lights with it's own 230v Plug. I am just wondering how many of these panel mount transformers can be fed safel from one 230v supply - I presume if wired in parallel to the supply, (which I plan to protect with a 3A fuse the input voltage side) there would be no limit? I also plan to fuse the output channels aswell. If I can get twin wound transformers, these is no reason why I should not need anymore than 3. 1 with 15V output for the DC Controller and Point Motors 1 with 12v for the Stepper motor and Electromagnets 1 with 12v Output for NCE DCC Controller I would like to use individual outputs to ensure each accessory has its own supply, to avoid and minimise interference especially as the Controllers, lights and stepper motor may be in continuous use and a dip in power would be evident. I look forward to any thoughts. Thanks in Advance
  8. Taking everyone's comments into consideration and to perhaps give something for others to work or comment on, I have had a go at adding signalling to the original plan. This is only a first, rough attempt, and appreciate it doesn't include an outer home or Outer Starter/Section Signal on the main branch. I have designed the Starting Signal on those based at Exmouth, but have also seen a different arrangement at Halwill Junction, where both platforms have there own bracket signal with two arms - Essentially the same as Exmouth but split into two. My biggest concern is the Home signal and also the shunting signals or subsidiary signal arms required on this and the starter signal. Thanks again in Advance
  9. Thanks for all your replies - I've tried to reply to everyone's comments Thanks for your feedback for the starting arms, out of interest do you know any other locations other than Exmouth that had similar signalling or would show these style signals? The branch will disappear not to far past the point work, hence the thought process of not needing or trying to cram in a home. The branch will mainly be worked on the basis of Push Pull rolling stock, with perhaps the odd small freight or normal passenger working. Whether this would then be shunt released from the bay or whether it would work straight into the main platform I am unsure, I had not given to much thought on this. The two upper sidings are just general goods sidings, the siding above the bay will probably have a small goods shed and the most upper road will probably have a few coal staithes and various other unloading facilities. We did hum and har baout trap points when designing, but again, were slightly unsure where these would be needed much like the signalling requirements! The siding next to the station loco release will probably form a cattle dock or somewhere to leave wagons during shunting. The siding to the most bottom right is planned to be a small engine should with a turntable big enough to turn something up the size of a 4-4-0 T3 or T9, and the long siding above it is to store carriages or a part assembled freight train. I hope this perhaps helps and could shed some more light on the signalling required and which sidings could just be operated by ground levers. I like your idea with the advanced started and outer home, this could slim line the operation of the layout and something that we have talked about in the past. And thank you for your comments regarding the curves and design of the layout - Again, carriage sidings is something that was talked about but with the addition of the long head shunt and turntable feared it would make the layout feel cramped and perhaps little is less? Thank you for them pictures, I've saved a copy for personal use and sure they will come in very useful when finalising the signalling. 1. I should of mentioned that, the pre-grouping will be based on the LSWR. 2. Thank you for that piece of information. Again, thanks for all your comments and look forward to any additional pointers.
  10. Good Evening All, I have recently been working on a new 7mm Southern Branch Line Terminus with a junction off to another branch. Having completed most of the track work and fitted all the point motors, the next task is wire the layout up and test it functionally. However, after this we'd like to turn out attention to signalling so we can get a rough idea of where they need to be mounted, where point rodding will be required and running cables to operate them before progressing with any scenic work. Unfortunately, signalling isn't really mine or my friends strong point so we could do with some advice, opinions and suggestions to progress things so I have turned to RMweb! I have drawn up a plan of the layout in Templot Sketchboard, I have copied this into paint and added some lines to indicate the diamond crossing that is a double slip, the platform and a proposed location of the signal box. the Branch comes in from the top of the layout and the main line comes in from the right. From what knowledge I have, I presume that there would be a bracket signal at the end of the platform. I presume this would have two main starter arms, one for each platform but would these give a route indication or would this be determined by the road that the signaler pulls off? In addition to this would each road require a subsidiary signal for shunting or would the main arm just be given? Moving down the line, on the main line there could be a section signal towards the end of the scenic section? As for arriving at the terminus, I presume there would be a home bracket signal outside the main point. I am unsure what arms and indication this would require as you can effectively access the loop, platform 1, bay platform and yard from the main line. Again, I presume there would need to be a subsidiary arm or ground signal for shunting or when the platforms are occupied? I don't think the branch at the top requires any signalling as it is not on the scenic part of the layout for long enough to model any. However, I presume the yard and loop are going to need some ground signals, etc. The layout is going to be set in Southern steam around the 1930s to 1940s. We would be most appreciative if anyone could comment on the above or perhaps give some advice on the how the layout might of been signaled. If anyone needs any further information to add comments for the signalling requirements, please fire away! Thanks in Advance Josh
  11. Good Evening, I just thought I'd start a new topic to show you what I have been working on recently, and for any feedback on what other people think of the plan and for some guidance on a few finishing touches for this design. I have recently been working on a project with a friend of mine, who has recently started out in 7mm. As you will see from the attached photos. The project consists of two parts; a permanent fixed running loop with fiddle yard and a integrated layout that has been designed to exhibit. The outside loop, which contains a double slip, two points and a passing loop on one side and a ladder fiddleyard on the other side. This has been designed based on 32mm Peco track work, this part of the layout has already been built and is just about up and running. The fixed part of the layout has been designed like this so we have somewhere to continuously run locos and to allow friends to run there 0 gauge locomotives which may not be suitable for the finer gauge on the main layout. The plan also allows something to be run on the outside loop, yet still allows the inner loop and fiddleyard to be ran independently. The second part has been designed so it can be operated as part of the fixed outside layout but so it can also be operated at an exhibition. When at home in the garage, the layout can be operated via the branch line exit and the main line will effectively be used as a head shunt. When at an exhibition the main running track will be utilised with it's own traverser and a secondary traverser or fiddle yard will be bolted onto the branch line track. Although the current photo shows the layout built with 7 baseboards in a row, the intention is to have 4, 4ft boards and 1 3ft board (which are shown as track centre line outlines) then a trapezium shaped board which will reverse the layout in a "U" style followed by another 4ft baseboard - This is to allow maximum access when at home and during construction. When exhibited this additional trapezium shaped board will not be used but and an additional 4ft scenic board will be bolted on instead. Hopefully this makes sense from the attached pictures. (I notice the plan has changed slightly across these two pictures but is mainly there to show the two baseboard arrangements) The main design constraints of the layout is to utilise the space as much as possible, whilst still being able to operate the layout via the branch line road when at home. Additionally, we wanted to create something that was simple, flowing and not to over cramped. The other limiting factor is the single radius on the right hand of the garage. The exhibition part of the layout will be built to 31.5mm, and will be loosely based on a fictional Southern Region station, somewhere down towards the coast with the possibility of utilising holiday traffic. The largest loco is likely to be a King Arthur, but mainly it will be nothing bigger than a T9/T3. To suit my interests, it is also intended to be built so that the buildings could be changed to reflect a Eastern region station giving the option to run two era's of stock if required. As you will see there are a few complex pieces of point work, mainly the diamond crossover arrangement which will lead into a double slip, which I am currently struggling to design myself in Templot. Being fairly confident this is the final draft of the plan in terms of the layout plan, I am now currently trying to finalise it by building a proper slip in Templot and sort out the sleeper spacing and orientation. However, if someone would like the challenge who is more confident, and probably a lot quicker and familiar with Templot and would perhaps like to "have a go" at sorting this part out and perhaps some help with the sleeper spacing and orientation around this part of the layout, it would be most appreciated. Alternatively, any ideas, suggestions and pictures to help with this would also be greatly appreciated. As said above, I've posted on here in the hope from feedback from others on the plan, and any potential bottle knecks/problems people can see before construction starts. We have taken delivery of 6, 4ft x 3ft 3 baseboards this week and one 3ft a 3ft 3 board, so we are hoping to finalise on a plan within the next couple of weeks.....! This is the Boards set up as they would be at an Exhibition - Obviously it cannot be setup like this at home due to the rooms constraints and would require two fiddle yards as described above, and hence the image below for home operation Baseboards setup for Garage Operation (The 3ft board that the bulk of the point work board has since been extended to a 4ft board)
  12. Good Evening, I'm looking towards my next project, which may be a small 7mm Cameo Style Layout. Currently, I plan one of the main features to be a mill/maltings or a building of similar descrpit to mask the sector plate fiddle yard. I'm currently trying to gather a collection of photographs which will help me to design a similar building which is either based on a particular or incorporates a few prototype buildings. The hardest part I think will be coming up with a design that is substantial enough to disguise the sector plate but not so obtrusive that it will ruin a small country based Eastern region scene. I've come across a few good examples which others have modeled such as the large grain store Martyn Welch has modeled on Monks Eleigh, and a few others which I can't seem to recall at this particular moment in time! In addition to this, I've been doing some research of my own, browsing through the numerous eastern region based books I have and have come up with a few examples, such as: Snape Maltings, GodManchester, Fakenham, Trouse, etc. As these buildings were normally the less interesting part of many stations, it isn't always easy to find whole or clear pictures of these specific buildings, and was wondering if anyone else could perhaps suggest any other places which had similar buildings or other places I could look to find similar pictures? Thanks in Advance
  13. josh993

    Dapol 08

    On the back of this, does anyone know what height the BR Black numbers are so I can sort out some for mine!
  14. josh993

    Hornby B12

    Myself and a friend both purchased a early crest B12. First impressions were really good, lovely detail and all round finish however after running in, we were both left rather disappointed. After following Hornby's suggestion in regards to running in, one of them gave up after about an hour with a horrible burning smell and the other one seems to have a tight spot which is more noticeable in reverse, enough to slow the model down and give a jerk like action, which looks to be caused by the quartering being ever so slightly out. We were also both taken by how high geared they were for a new re-tooled model, perhaps if they were lower geared they would have more torque and the tight spot would be less noticeable. This post isn't aimed at Hornby, just some feedback from what we have found, and more out of interest to see if anyone else has had similar problems. I appreciate I couldn't build one with such a nice detailed finish, but overall and after spending £145, we were both disappointed with the mechanical finish and performance our two models had. They will be going back for refund or exchange tomorrow.
  15. Good Evening, I am currently in the middle of building a 7mm Parkside kit of a LNER Horsebox. I plan to finish it in late LNER or early BR which will be Carmine, before I go too much further with it's assembly I would like to paint the interior of the grooms compartment and wondered if anyone could give any advice on the interior colours in either late LNER or early BR. In addition to this, if anybody has any pictures of the interior or that of a similar style (Although I appreciate a long short as I haven't looked if any have survived into preservation) or even the exterior for the overall finish for weathering when I get to that stage I would be most appreciative
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