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    Model railways in P4, prototype interests the railways in Telford. Author of 12 books on railways on ex LMS l and BR standards. Motor cycles, particularly Hinckley Triumphs. Military history, particularly the Napoleonic wars. All books by Bernard Cornwall.

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  1. David, which loco are you modelling as there are lots of differences in balance weights. Some locos had Stanier style balance weights some on all wheels, some only on one or two axles. Let me know and I will sort out some photos. David
  2. Dave, I know you like a challenge! What are you doing for a Crank axle and what wheels are you using? David
  3. I found giving any recent Hornby loco a coat of Klear darkens and brightens up the flat colour. You can apply with a brush. You won’t believe the difference. David
  4. Re. Neil Phillips and photo credits for using photos in a book, I am the guilty party as the author of the Class 24/25 book. I always take great care to credit photographers but sometimes there is no name on the back and more than once the publisher ( Ian Allan) would slip in a photo after I submitted the text and photos so the first time I would see the photo was when it was published. I once had a very irate letter from Chris Croft’s berating me for using one of his photos without credit, I sent him the photo which was blank on the back! I to have seen photos I took appearing for sale on eBa
  5. Re D1733 and the logos, I have a photo taken at Wellington (Salop) working on a Birkenhead to Paddington service in 1964 proving the red on white logos were used in revenue service, even if only for a short period. David
  6. The only source for a Stanier 3500 gallon tender is the Brassmaster etched version, there is no RTR version. K,s did one many years ago but the rivet pattern is all wrong. ( I have one). David
  7. The type of repair would dictate whether a loco was repainted, a “casual” definitely not, an “ intermediate” which did not require the boiler to be taken out of the frames ( and therefore the boiler cladding not being removed) probably not. An intermediate would involve the wheels and motion dismantled and the wheels out of the frames but the boiler would remain in situ. When the revised tender coat of arms appeared in 1957 some locos still had the early emblem into 1964 so 73025 was still running with this, indicating it had been through works without being repainted. At least one rebuilt Sc
  8. BR issued an edict in December 1963 To all works overhauling steam locos that all locos needed re painting were to be painted in plain black for those classes that had been previously lined out and the same applied to green locos ( Jubilees and Britannia’s, Ivatt class 2s et) that were previously lined out. Some works were a little slow in following the new instruction and St Rollox works was still lining out locos into early 1964. 45312 was seen ex works from Cowlairs on 22-March 1964. A few Jubilees received the plain green and all the Brittanias although if you scrapped the green paint of
  9. One of the issues with the Brits was how to drive them. When they went to Holyhead they were not liked by the crews who preferred the re built Scots and Patriots. Because of complaints a loco inspector travelled with the crews from Holyhead. He noticed that they were being driven on a partial regulator ( as per the Scots). On the next trip he suggested they use full open regulator and drive on the cut of. Result, the train shot out of the station! so like lots of new classes they needed a different driving style, drivers don’t like change!
  10. I think Chris Gibbons of High Level is planning a P4 chassis kit. David
  11. Mike I feel your pain, as I have some of the revised livery wagons (and I sponsered the production of the transfers!). But like you I cant prove its a post grouping change and so far no one else can so as you say Rule 1 applies. David
  12. The Lilleshall Co wagon livery appears to change I think after the Grouping with the lettering changing from plain Lilleshall Co, Shropshire to the full Lilleshall Co Ltd with Glazed Bricks, Coal and underneath Pig Iron and Steel sections, Shifnal Shropshire. There are few pfhotos of this later livery and all appear to have been taken in the 1930s leading me to think its a post grouping change. Attached is a photo taken in the 1930s at Hadnall station and shows a Lilleshall Co wagon in the background. Further down the line a LC (standing for Littleton Colliery) liveried wagon can be seen
  13. Interesting about the GWR buying loco coal from collieries near the various depots. The Lilleshall Co in Shropshire had a contract with the GWR to supply Loco coal and I presume that would go to the sheds at Wellington, Much Wenlock and possibly Shrewsbury. Wrexham shed would be provided by the local collieries. The LNWR also had a contract with the Lilleshall Co so that would supply Trench, Coalport and again possibly Shrewsbury (LNWR side). They might also have supplied Stafford. The railway companies did not want the cost of shipping coal over long distances if decent coal was available loc
  14. Robin, love the weathering on the sand dryer. David
  15. Ian Rathbone has suggested mixing a colour, Humbrol No 9 Tan and No 69 Gloss Yellow mixed 50-50 and then add a tiny drop of green. This gives a khaki colour. As an alternative Precision Ochre Brown or MGNR Golden Gorse. David
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