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Norton961

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    Model railways in P4, prototype interests the railways in Telford. Author of 12 books on railways on ex LMS l and BR standards. Motor cycles, particularly Hinckley Triumphs. Military history, particularly the Napoleonic wars. All books by Bernard Cornwall.

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  1. One of the issues with the Brits was how to drive them. When they went to Holyhead they were not liked by the crews who preferred the re built Scots and Patriots. Because of complaints a loco inspector travelled with the crews from Holyhead. He noticed that they were being driven on a partial regulator ( as per the Scots). On the next trip he suggested they use full open regulator and drive on the cut of. Result, the train shot out of the station! so like lots of new classes they needed a different driving style, drivers don’t like change!
  2. I think Chris Gibbons of High Level is planning a P4 chassis kit. David
  3. Mike I feel your pain, as I have some of the revised livery wagons (and I sponsered the production of the transfers!). But like you I cant prove its a post grouping change and so far no one else can so as you say Rule 1 applies. David
  4. The Lilleshall Co wagon livery appears to change I think after the Grouping with the lettering changing from plain Lilleshall Co, Shropshire to the full Lilleshall Co Ltd with Glazed Bricks, Coal and underneath Pig Iron and Steel sections, Shifnal Shropshire. There are few pfhotos of this later livery and all appear to have been taken in the 1930s leading me to think its a post grouping change. Attached is a photo taken in the 1930s at Hadnall station and shows a Lilleshall Co wagon in the background. Further down the line a LC (standing for Littleton Colliery) liveried wagon can be seen. Cant quite make out the livery of the wagon next to the Lilleshall one though.
  5. Interesting about the GWR buying loco coal from collieries near the various depots. The Lilleshall Co in Shropshire had a contract with the GWR to supply Loco coal and I presume that would go to the sheds at Wellington, Much Wenlock and possibly Shrewsbury. Wrexham shed would be provided by the local collieries. The LNWR also had a contract with the Lilleshall Co so that would supply Trench, Coalport and again possibly Shrewsbury (LNWR side). They might also have supplied Stafford. The railway companies did not want the cost of shipping coal over long distances if decent coal was available local to the shed. David
  6. Robin, love the weathering on the sand dryer. David
  7. Ian Rathbone has suggested mixing a colour, Humbrol No 9 Tan and No 69 Gloss Yellow mixed 50-50 and then add a tiny drop of green. This gives a khaki colour. As an alternative Precision Ochre Brown or MGNR Golden Gorse. David
  8. Ian, thanks for that very helpful. My friend ( who owns the Milk Van ) will probably give me some more Midland vans to do. David
  9. Norton961

    LMS Jubilee

    The odd Stanier 3500 gallon tenders appeared behind Rebuilt Scots ( 2 of them I think) and 8Fs. David
  10. I am in the process of lining out a 4mm Midland Milk Van and have done the black lining and now need to do the yellow but don’t know what colour to use. As I can’t buy by mail from Precision, what Humbrol colour could I use? Attached is a photo of the vehicle as is. David
  11. I am in the process of painting and lining out a 4mm Midland Milk Van and I need help on what colour should the “ yellow” lining should be. The vehicle is painted circa 1910 so I know the lining is yellow and not gold. On the basis that I can’t buy any paint from Precision, what would be the closest match from Humbrol?The picture attached is progress to date. David
  12. I have had the same problem with Bachmann locos although I only weather with enamels. The first step for me is to dismantle the chassis and get rid of the excess lubricant, Bachmann appear to put 4 times as much lubricating grease as is required. You need to stop the lubrication from being thrown up from the chassis. i have found that I need to make 2 passes with the Isopropynal and then wash with mild detergent. The lubricant is really difficult to get rid of.
  13. Norton961

    Brief up-date

    Excellent work as usual David. I have the transfers ready and waiting for both locos! David
  14. Excellent description, we model the prototype and I for one love to understand the internal mechanics. I have T300 Hinckley Triumphs motorcycles and they have the same issues with liner seals failing after 25 years but the cylinder heads does not need 4 men to lift it of! keep up the good work, and keep posting. David
  15. Don’t forget that Barrow Rd Jubilees and Patriots worked from Bristol, through Birmingham, Derby and to Leeds. The Barrow Rd Jubilees were in the main ( leaving a couple ) transferred away to Shrewsbury in October 1961 and The Patriots were withdrawn around the same time. During the bad winter of 1962 into 1963 some re built Scots were borrowed from various sheds to cover for the non availability of Peaks. David
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