Ian Hargrave
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36 minutes ago, Bucoops said:
Rails have taken the dosh for these so can't be long now.
Still chuckling over Empty to Margate 🙃
Oh please don’t mock the afflicted ..🤭-
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On 12/02/2024 at 08:28, Fredo said:
Hi,
Looking forward to E2001, did the loco work passenger services as a Gas Turbine or after it was converted to Electric? Thanks Fred
As a gas turbine,yes it did work passenger services on the WR,notably between Paddington & Bristol on services such as The Merchant Venturer. Due to a variety of difficulties it was withdrawn from BR service as a gas turbine late in 1953 after barely two years work..An authentic train would consist of crimson & cream Colletts & Hawksworths but not Mk 1’s. Though Toplights were also widely used too. So good if you’ve any kit built ones at hand. It re-emerged as. 25Kv AC electric firstly on the newly electrified Styal loop in Cheshire,the UK pioneer of its kind.-
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2 hours ago, gwrrob said:
Nice one John @checkrail so Dapol do talk to their customers.
And it is indeed refreshing to have a Dapol appearance…albeit it in second hand form…..posted on this forum-
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10 minutes ago, RBE said:
I would check to make sure that you don't have the worm clip issue. It causes the worm to not mesh with the gears so effectively powering only one bogie under load. The loco can easily pull that load without problems when working correctly. In fact a test was done recently where a Hornby 56 pulled against ours one going one way and one the other and our 56 pulled the Hornby one away in the opposite direction.
I have the same underpowered issue with lack of traction ,gear grinding,slipping & stalling. It’s dc only 56093. Do I need to return it to fix as it would seem that you have identified the issue above ? Or is there an easy fix ? Bought from Ultimate late last week . -
I have zero online record of my order except the memory of the fact that I did in fact have one. I have trawled my email inbox in vain over the last two years .There obviously is no paper trail and I cannot recollect whether it’s DCC ready or Sound. I think the latter but am unsure. What order number it is I haven’t the faintest idea.I emailed HTG early today in reply to their request for the balance but no reply yet. I can do nothing without the details of my order being forthcoming.
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2 minutes ago, Harlequin said:
The A/S Manor smokebox because that has a matt finish which makes it look lighter.
The Dapol Mogul's smokebox has the same satin finish as the rest of the black areas on that model and similar to the non-smokebox areas of the A/S Manor - and similar to 99% of GWR loco models we've ever seen.
Dapol would be very foolish indeed to try to replicate the different surface finish of the A/S Manor smokebox by greying down their standard satin finish over the entire model - and I don't think that's what they've done. I think they've either chosen to use grey for some reason that's difficult to understand or it's a factory mistake.
Well if you consider the “khaki” Mogul,my money would be on factory error. Given current circumstances,it must be difficult for Dapol to keep a grip on matters at the factory face.-
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13 minutes ago, NHY 581 said:
Here's a comparison between an Accurascale Manor and the Dapol Mogul.
It's the best I can manange but the light in the shop is not the best.
Rob
Many thanks Rob for this. A definitive outing for black without question. The trick is to enlarge the images of both. The Accurascale Manor remains sharp black. The Dapol Mogul fades outward with a tinge of pink. Well it does to my eyes anyway. The conclusion has to be that the smoke box black on the GWR Moguls is unfortunately repeated with the overall black of the WR examples. Both models shown on your image are lined with small BR e/c. -
I bring you good Dapol news. Look on Rails website.The first 3 Toplight versions have arrived.So yesterday’s news was correct.
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4 hours ago, Markn said:
Due in stock today according to a Rails Facebook post
And now on Rails website.Well the first three versions anyway.-
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2 hours ago, Fair Oak Junction said:
I was in the market for an 8F, to turn into a WD one, but even on sale I wont be buying one of these. I'll either look for a good second hand one, with the better smokebox door, or wait for the inevitable new tooled one in the future. Charging modern prices for older models is one thing, but actively making a model worse? Nope.
Couple of points….and I appreciate your views….If looking for “a good second hand one “consider the possibility of Mazak rot as any around will be 10+ years old and could be affected : and secondly don’t assume that a newly tooled version will be coming any time soon. As an aside,compare this release with Hornby’s decision to retool the Black 5.Yes it’s a puzzle but atm things appear to be in a state of flux.-
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5 minutes ago, NHY 581 said:
I had a look at one today in the shop, Ian.
The black parts are undoubtedly a dark, arguably slate grey, Panzer grey at best. The BR black simply aren't. They are without doubt grey and an odd choice made by Dapol.
Next time I'm in ( Thursday) if no one had done so, I'll photograph one alongside an Accurascale black Manor by way of comparison.
Rob.
Many thanks,Rob. By coincidence,I’m atm looking at 2 e/c…lined & plain black Accurascale Manors. So your help in this is much appreciated.Certainly both these Manors are convincing so the comparison will be crucial. -
28 minutes ago, Cor-onGRT4 said:
On Dapol 's site at the home page in the upper moving banner it says just arrived, so it seems they are at Dapol now
Indeed it does. But they don’t appear in the For Sale section. So might this “just arrived “ perhaps refer to the samples first seen last September ? Perplexing to say the least but entirely in accord with Dapol’s policy of playing their cards close to the chest. 🤞🏽that they actually have arrived.-
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The models would seem to represent DR ( Late East Germany ). So possibly Piko ?
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On Summer Saturdays they could be seen working on WR to SR holiday passenger turns to & from Salisbury. I can remember 72B sending locos coupled together in strings to the station to await turns taking over from WR locos to Portsmouth,Bournemouth,Brighton etc. It might include Standard 76xxx,SR moguls,T9’s and Q1.
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24 minutes ago, Miss Prism said:
My view on the state of Moguls in BR days is that the lined ones were kept fairly clean (at least an attempt was made to keep them clean), but the unlined ones were left to get extremely grubby. Even the lined ones could look uncared for - here's a lined 6313 on station pilot duties at Reading on 28 March 1959. It lasted only a couple of more years, so I doubt it ever looked respectable again. Reading shed's cleaning resources were getting very low by that time.
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18 minutes ago, Harlequin said:
Well, as per your advice to me, you need to see one "in the flesh", if you can. But I would certainly suggest not judging it standalone - you need to have another loco of similar livery alongside.
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In fact I did attempt to do so yesterday at Doncaster but the only examples ….there weren’t many…..were boxed and given the crowded circumstances I felt I could hardly ask for a view straight out of the box.-
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15 minutes ago, Harlequin said:
I know BR didn't give its inherited steam locos much love but the GWR had pride in it's creations. It's not so easy to use a grime overcoat to hide painting errors on models from that era.
Models are most commonly supplied in ex-works condition. That's why coach roofs are white and the copper and brass in the cab gleams. It's always been up to us to weather it down to the desired extent. So either Dapol have got the ex-works black wrong or they are telling us that black was really grey on this loco.
Furthermore, I think we can legitimately expect our models not to violently change colour when we photograph them. Just look at @gwrrob's photos if you want a real shock!
I'm not happy about this - not sure I can live with it or find a reasonable way to mitigate it.
I’m therefore in a quandary about a black e/c version .The only guides I have atm are images on Kernow & Rails websites.-
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15 hours ago, gwrrob said:
A good excuse to have a filthy mogul me thinks.😉
I don’t believe I ever saw what was under the filth in any case.Unless of course in one of the late Peter W Gray’s photographs.That would be one taken at NA in BR.green.-
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5 hours ago, Harlequin said:
Actually, I meant to post those photos in the Prairie and Moguls thread but, heck, this is close enough!
Some of the photos are cruel close-ups but they do show that the general fitment of parts could be better, I think.
- The body doesn't sit down on the running plate as it should
- The handrail knobs are too big (not unusual for RTR models) but even so some of them have been damaged by the hand rail wire being roughly pushed through them
- The coal load doesn't sit down properly (not a big deal, just noting it)
- The cab glazing is a bit wonky and the porthole glazing seems to sit on top of the cab sheet. Not sure what's going on there - I wonder if some of the transparent plastic should have been painted loco green? Or maybe it is painted but we can see inside, behind the paint, because of refraction?
OK. I’m just looking at my transition 7301 from the first rendition.Your complaint re: body is present here too,as it is on Robin’s current image of his new release if you look closely. So this would suggest to me that it’s systemic with the manufacture and possibly design of this model. So it might well be the case that a replacement will exhibit the same idiosyncracy that is annoying you presently. Ivan CK has the opportunity of looking closely at one in his local model shop. Thus a similar excursion for you if it is possible may be the way forward. Good luck.-
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15 minutes ago, Captain Kernow said:
Not tempted by the khaki sandy beige colour, no.
But I am tempted by one of the BR liveried examples...
As luck would have it, I had to pop into Expressway Models at Buckfastleigh station this morning and started to inspect some of the examples they had (only just) put out in the glass display case. They had only had a delivery this morning. As I was starting to look at them, I was approached by one of the chaps working (?volunteering?) there and given what can only be described as a hard sell...! He even said, 'here's one you can have a closer look at, Sir'. They had taken a BR unlined black example out of it's box and gave it to me to examine. I thought it was rather fab, but as there are other expenses coming up shortly, I resisted the temptation (for now...)
And coincidentally,that is the one example of the current release that would tempt me.-
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1 minute ago, Miss Prism said:
Indeed. Reminds me of my first sight of BR’s Western diesel D1000 on its inaugural run .The official WR terminology described the colour as… “desert sand “ Now Dapol are revisiting it.-
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34 minutes ago, The Fatadder said:
Looks like a Warners takeover. Makes sense as it kind of felt given their existing portfolios it would end up getting absorbed by either Warners or Key. Will be good to see it continue
It is though a large financial commitment and hopefully it will be sustainable going forward. It does make one reflect upon how just one group of dedicated enthusiasts managed to initiate and run it for as long as they did.-
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And now some optimism. There IS to be a show at the NEC 23/24 Nov. Billed as a “ National “ event apparently.
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A Nod To Brent - a friendly thread, filled with frivolity, cream teas and pasties. Longing for the happy days in the South Hams 1947.
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Bravo….and welcome to the Octopussy Club from another member.Now maybe a smart meter if you haven’t already got one ? I was unconvinced until I had a couple of months spell in hospital &;there was no one at home to read the meters.