drduncan

On the basis that a slip coach is a brake tri-composite or brake composite with a fancy coupling and special brake arrangements, I feel it would be unfair to exclude Dean slip coaches from this thread, so get (diag) F'ing on with it... D

Here is an E19 with oil lamps. Its interesting how low the rain trip is, perhaps only 3 inches or so at its max extent from the gutter. I'm going to have to modify the roof of my E19 3d print. Incidentally, does any one have information about rain strips; is there a rule for whether they are single or double, for example? Duncan

In 4mm they will be too small to print I’m afraid. It might work in 7mm but they would be very fragile. D

Yes, I’d been thinking along similar lines. I intend to try printing windows in clear resin too, just to see what the results are like. D

Well, apart from replacing the the post civil war parliamentary crypto republican democracy with a military dictatorship… I always thought that his statue was there as a warning to politicians about the dangers of generals with a large standing army, time on their hands and a grievance or several. He’s why the British parliament resisted having a standing army and righty put their faith in the Royal Navy! DrDuncan

Following an illuminating thread drift over in the 3 plank appreciation thread, here is a place to discuss William Dean’s brake tricomposite and brake composite designs such as Low roofed bogie coach designs such as the E19 Clerestory roofed bogie coaches such as the E9 Low roofed 4 and 6 wheel or Clerestory 6 wheel designs. Prototypes and models come forth and multiply. However, no Collett creations or Hawksworth heresies please… I now call on the congregation rejoice in the word of brother @Penrhos1920 May the Dean coaches be with you, now and always, built at Swindon. DrDuncan

Of course! GWR appreciation is fully inclusive and welcomes the diversity of approach provided by our clerestory brethren.

@Schooner You’re staying suspiciously quiet about a forthcoming broad gauge conversion… D

Oh for better/sharper photos! D

I must admit I read that as a good bit of parental indoctrination for the Senior Service... It never occurred to me as a GWR aficionado that people would want to travel on the LNWR! Duncan

I'm going to start a Dean low roofed brake tricomposite appreciation thread...just sayin' 😁 D

So Plan A/B Kingswear... going to be broad gauge like your photos? Also where did you get those photos of broad gauge Kingswear? Duncan

Thanks - extremely helpful. An ex WCR wagon is now a possibility for Nampara! Duncan

Very interesting indeed! Is there any references to it being converted from broad gauge in 1874 as the WCR was mixed gauge, so it could have been BG and converted at some point up to 1892 or be a WCR standard gauge wagon. Does it say anything about buffers? @Andy KeaneIs it ok to reproduce your image on this thread so that Chris and others can see the details more clearly? Duncan

It looks like a 6w with an arc roof so a V3, V8 or V13. Its hard to see if there are duckets, if there aren't it could be a V3 despite them being quite rare... @Penrhos1920 is the carriage ID whizz who might be able to confirm, but the image is rather poor. Duncan

Calling @Chrisbr...do you have the details for 26841 (or it could be 28841...) @Mikkel @Andy Keane looking at the picture of 26841 I'm not sure that it is a pure GWR 3 plank. The top plank looks narrower than the the others and the top plank in the door also looks thinner than the planks to the side. The end also looks like it is not an arc, but has a lengthy flat section to it. I'm not sure what its ancestry is as I haven't photographed the relevant stock book yet so we are in the hands of others! Duncan

There are sample instructions on the thread - for a round ended 3 plank as it happens - and the instructions say what bits are needed and recommends suitable suppliers. The extra bits depend on the kit, so for the S7 fish wagon and exCMR China clay wagon it’s just w-irons, coupling hooks and buffer heads, (oh and a bit of 0.3mm wire or a lot of wire for the S7!) while the three planks will need the same plus the double shoe brakes and lever. Some of the 1 and 2 planks come with wooden shoes brakes and curved lever (because these aren’t available anywhere to my knowledge) but they did get metal brake shoes in later life which you’d have to source if you want that option and again the instructions suggest where. Hope this helps! Duncan

I can help there! I do several types of 3 planks (and other GWR pre WW1 wagons). Duncan

I must say I never come across stink pipes. What were they? Duncan

Rather than ground signals, ie independent of the point position, you could consider non-independent point signals (often rotating lamp type things) or even ex BG point capstans bought cheap from the GWR following one of the gauge conversions of the 1870s…. Duncan

Interesting! Which issue? D

What are peoples experiences with Sunlu abs like resin? Can anyone suggest settings they have used successfully with an Anycubic MonoX2? Thanks Duncan

New print available - 4GWR-016 GWR ex Cornwall Minerals Railway iron bodied China clay tippler wagon. The CMR built over 200 small iron bodied, very short wheelbase, but wooden underframe, China Clay wagons in 1874 using two builders, the Swansea Wagon Company and the West of England Wagon Company. Within a few years the CMR and its China clay fleet had been leased to the GWR. The wagons appear to have been built with dumb buffers at the tooling end and self contained buffers at the non tipping end. Later the wagons were altered to have self contained buffers at both ends - probably in the 1900s - although the wagon stock books are silent on these alterations. As the wagons were built by independent wagon manufacturers not the CMR or GWR, these wagons may also be of interest to those creating proto-freelance independent railway companies of the late Victorian and Edwardian period whose traffic requires an end tippling mineral wagon where a very short wheelbase would be an advantage such as a dock or similar loading/unloading point where there might be very tight radii curves to negotiate. 4GWR-016 is for the early version of the wagon with dumb buffers and self contained buffers. It comprises a one piece body and chassis complete with brake gear as well as axle boxes and springs at the brake lever end of the print. Included with the print are a pair of separate self contained buffer housings and a pair of axle boxes and spring assemblies to facilitate a compensated chassis if desired. Also included in the print is an axle alignment jig for either OO or EM/P4 - please state which is required on ordering. Cost for 4GWR-016 is £15 plus p & p. Prints can be ordered by emailing DR3Dmodels@outlook.com Thanks for your interest. Duncan

A very interesting and impressive project. I’ll be watching with interest. Duncan

Do what Mike says! You could also solder brass tube across the frames where the hangers would be (say 0.7mm id) and then trim back to just inside the rear faces of the flange. Then just have a stub of 0.7mm wire from the brake shoe which located in the tube and you can spring the brake gear off. Duncan