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    'Genesis' 4 & 6 wheel coaches in OO Gauge - New Announcement

    in Hattons

    Posted

    On 07/01/2023 at 05:55, Compound2632 said:

    One could ask upon what information this statement is based. Such might include restored examples, contemporary descriptions, or documentation of the types of hardwood used by each company for its carriage panelling. In my post, I used the word "teak" rather loosely to mean "varnished wood", whereas in fact a variety of timbers were used. The Brighton, for example, used mahogany, which has a reddish tinge. I don't know what the Chatham used, but I note that the livery of the carriages built to William Kirtley's specification for the opening of the Hull & Barnsley is described in North Eastern Record Vol. 2 as "varnished teak".

     

    Did you just ask @Edwardian for his references?

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    Kernow GWR steam rail motor

    in Kernow Model Rail Centre

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    4 hours ago, Edwardian said:

    I, too, have received the email inviting me to re-order. IIRC the deadline is the end of this month, failing which my earlier pre-order, and with it the modest yet welcome pre-order discount, will be cancelled.

     

    Now, however, the re-order is not an act of faith, as the pre-order was, as we now have some splendid samples to view. So, out came Lewis and, for the first time, I've had a good look at these.

     

    I had the pre-1908 chocolate and cream version on order. The model seems to check out pretty well. Spoiler alert, I plan to re-order as requested. 

     

    Represented in this livery is No.61, making it one of the Kerr Stewart/Hurst Nelson products to diagram O. As such the model correctly features the wider engine compartment windows with which it was built (and I do not believe would have been replaced whilst in this initial livery), what I take to be the Hurst pattern roof vents, a fishbelly bogie, the double passenger doors and the distinctive 'prize' monogram apparently applied to Nos. 61-69.

     

    Lewis affords us good views of this series in this early condition, the driver end of No.71 and the passenger end of No. 69. Generally, and in nearly every discernable particular, it looks as if the Kernow sample image of No.61 matches up well.

     

    There seems to be no trace of the two grab rails forward of the driver's door on No.71, suggesting these were a later fitment and should not be present on the model, though not perhaps conclusive of the point. They are there on brown and lake liveried examples.

     

    I can see no evidence to support the strange roof mouldings (hand rails perhaps?) that straddle the passenger vestibule for the early liveries. To my eye, this feature is certainly not seen on the early chocolate and cream and brown liveried examples pictured in Lewis.  

     

    There are a couple of livery queries. First, I note the sample at least has black, not chocolate, to the lower portion of the doors. This looks odd and unlikely, but might, of course, be prototypical. Second, would the number and monogram be in yellow, not gold, the contrast with the lining looks a little odd? 

     

    There does not seem to be anything here of much consequence that would, or should, put me off re-ordering the pre-order, but any thoughts, corrections, guidance would be welcome. GW expertise is well represented hereabouts.

     

    My one dislike, and it's a pretty hearty dislike, is the Gigantor Lamp. This looks terrifically overscale. Is it a working light? I presume so and that this is the reason for its distracting hugeness. If so, here, for me, the balance between gimmickry and accuracy has been badly judged. However, presumably it can be removed and replaced, so by no means a discouragement for the purchaser. 

     

    Would I be tempted further?

     

    Well the brown lined version does look very good. This is represented by No.63. I do ponder if this livery is not best applied to the version with the narrower window and side tank filler? Perhaps there is a picture of No.63 in this livery with the original window arrangement. I would hope so. But, with only Lewis to go on, I think that all the examples pictured in brown livery show the retrofitting of narrow windows and filler cap having already taken place. No.68, for example, pictured in brown during her stint at Whitland between July and October 1909 already seems to have been modified. Again, though, there is no evidence for the transverse roof feature Kernow places above the passenger vestibule (nor on No.72 pictured between 1909 and 1913 and, again c.1912-13). 

     

    As for the driver window protection bars, they seem far from universally seen during the brown era, but No.72 has them by c.1912-1913 according to Lewis.  

     

    Any further information on No.63 in brown livery would be welcome.

     

    Finally, the lake version. I would need to see this in the flesh. These model pictures against white are notorious for giving unnaturally bright renderings of the colours, though here I note the colour is unchanged in the layout picture, where everything else looks normal. The sample pictures show a shade that looks very different from the preserved shade, whether seen in the flesh or in photographs, in most lighting conditions, or, indeed, any other rendering of GW crimson lake I have seen. Perhaps someone can offer some comfort here, but as I only have the sample pictures to go on, I appear to be looking at something with a redness that would make even the Midland blush.

     

       

     

      

     

    What is the title of the book you are using as a reference? I presume Lewis is the author.

     

     

    GER W&U Train Packs

    in Rapido Trains

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    37 minutes ago, Edwardian said:

     

     

    Regarding the crimson and grey, the grey was introduced for locos in 1915 and the crimson coach livery in 1919. The final pair of C53s were built in 1921, hence grey and crimson. These were C53s 125, 126 and 129, which were out-shopped in March 1921 with G E R initials. Photographs of both exist to confirm this in the case of both 125 and 126. Train control numbers were only introduced circa July 1921. IIRC there is photographic evidence of a single C53 with train control number (which is not to say others were not repainted with them), which I think is 128 (a 1914 loco).

     

    Regarding the blue and teak era, all previous C53s were out-shopped before the aforesaid livery changes, so were blue and teak, ending in the 1914 batch, which included the subject of the Rapido model. I understand the artwork is provisional and subject to change. Rapido are, I am sure, already aware that the elliptical number plate should have a vermilion, not black, background, and that the faces and ends of the buffer beams were blue, bordered black with vermilion lining. The buffer casings were also blue, with a black band at the ends and vermillion separating them.

     

     

     

    It would be very helpful if you could list your references. Thank you.

     

     

    Locomotion & Rails of Sheffield announce SE&CR D Class

    in Rails of Sheffield

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    5 hours ago, Oliver Rails said:

    Thanks to everyone for their input and observations. I can acknowledge that each issue has been noted.

    This was of course one of the reasons we publicised and indeed the purpose of the samples themselves.

     

    Many of the issues had already been noted, however for reassurance I would just like to clarify the following;

    • The SR Olive Green is incorrect but will be corrected in the final model.
    • On the SECR, the bright red will be more of a darker red when produced. The crest quality will also be improved.
    • The BR handrails will be black. White lining will be on the tender

     

    Thanks

    Oliver @RailsOfSheffield

     

    I don't think the scraped beading on the wartime grey locomotive looks too realistic in these photo's. Any chance of a color closer to brass?

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    Hornby - New Tooling - Terrier

    in Hornby

    Posted

    Just received my Brighton Works and it is a real beauty. Compared to my Rails LBSCR Terrier, easily equal in quality and enough detailed differences to add interest. I'm so glad I bought both. Trouble is my old Terriers now look crap. Such is progress.

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    'Genesis' 4 & 6 wheel coaches in OO Gauge - New Announcement

    in Hattons

    Posted

    15 hours ago, GreenGiraffe22 said:

    Seeing these CADs has definitely increased my interest, will watch with interest. The SR department ones & breaks might be useful in military trains or with my breakdown crane =) 

     

    Reading this comment has triggered the thought, what color scheme, if any, would be suitable for the coaches in a ROD WW1 setting? We have some lovely locomotives these days in model form.

     

    I know there are several experts here that may be able to help. Is there a prototype? or something close enough? Thanks in advance.

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    Hornby Rocket - pre-order from Hattons

    in Hattons

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    7 minutes ago, GWR-fan said:

    I have worked in the commercial aviation industry for on 35 years and know that particularly in the United States it was the company policy of most airlines to overbook seats to a factor of 10%.  There was a viral video a year or two ago of an irate and justified passenger, a doctor, who was travelling in the course of his responsibilities as a medical professional.  Just prior leaving the gate on departure the aircraft entry door was opened and airline officials decided that due overbooking he was the one selected to be off loaded to allow another passenger to board.  The passenger explained his need to be on the flight and objected very vocally and was forcibly dragged from the aircraft, suffering minor injuries plus no doubt a lot of embarrassment.  Subsequent legal action saw the passenger rewarded financially but I am sure the experience turned him off using the airline again.  Normally in the case of an overbooked aircraft the airline representative would board the aircraft and offer an incentive,  usually money and overnight accommodation in a hotel free of charge as compensation for any passenger voluntarily vacating their seat.  It is actually illegal in the U.S. to intentionally overbook and in these days of computers how could you not intentionally overbook a flight?

     

    I have never prebooked a purchase with Hattons so do not know if a customer is required to pay upfront or payment is taken when the goods arrive instore.   If no payment has been made then given the store's terms and conditions a contract has not been breached.  Of cause goodwill has taken a beating,  however, given that the item was in such limited numbers I do have some sympathy for any who missed out on receiving their order but alas with the limited Hornby allocation to each store it seems it is first in,  first served.  There has to be a more practical and moral distribution from Hornby for limited edition items to give all interested purchasers an even chance to be able to purchase.  I personally think a lottery system so that no one has insider trading or is a favourite customer of a store receiving an allocation.

     

    It is not illegal to overbook flights in the US. It's done by the airlines because a vast number of people don't show up, so the aircraft would otherwise always fly less than full. On the occasions when the airlines do get caught out, cash is rarely offered as an inducement. Free flights are usually offered. In my experience, which is extensive, there is never any problem finding volunteers to deplane. I've done it myself. Fly a couple of hours later on the next flight and get a free flight to anywhere within the continental US, that's usually a pretty good deal.

     

    By the way, nobody is forcibly removed from an aircraft due to overbooking. If nobody leaves, you just sit there until the airline ups the offer until a volunteer emerges.

     

    Nothing whatsoever to do with Hornby Rockets but I feel the need to set the record straight.

    Hornby Rocket - pre-order from Hattons

    in Hattons

    Posted

    Come on folks. I've been dealing with Hattons for decades like many of you. They are good people and a good business that achieved #1 in the recent poll through their hard work. They screwed up this time and have unreservedly apologized. Like we are perfect?

     

    For goodness sake, just shut up and move on.

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    Oxford 2020 Toy Fair announcements

    in Oxford Rail

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    13 minutes ago, Iltman said:

    My first thought looking at the new releases was not much for the Southern but reflection made me revise that thought.  If the crane is at a reasonable price then I’ll definitely be getting one and those GE vans got about quite a lot.   I’ve seen several pics of examples on Southern rails so overall not bad.  Well done Oxford  

     

    Echo that, I'm very pleased with this announcement and the love shown to the pre-groupers.

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    SECR Birdcage Coaches

    in Bachmann

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    My Wellington Brown Birdcages dropped by today and very pleased I am too. I suspect sales will be a tad slow with the rather high price point and drab appearance so maybe I'll get lucky and be able to pick up another rake off the bargain tables later in the year. Anyhoo, well done Bachmann.

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