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  1. One of the three RKB conversions was in the Harwich-Liverpool train in the late 1950s and there is a published photo of it showing the kitchen side in the train approaching Sheffield behind a Britannia. I can't remember which book it's in but it was a paperback. Notably, the kitchen side had only two full depth windows towards the right-hand end and a large section of panelling (presumably behind the buffet counter) and the kitchen windows towards the left hand end. The one reported in the South Yorkshireman set was E1225E per the Railway Observer in May 1954. There is a Neil Sprinks photo of the train with an RKB which fits with the date the RO gave. It's not a good photo of the carriage but you can see what it is. The Cleethorpes one appears in DVD footage and possibly also photos, as does one in a Cromer train. There is another photo of one in the Harwich-Liverpool which shows the corridor side. Unfortunately, none of the photos is a close-up and I have never found a diagram for the conversion. I don't think the RKB was in the South Yorkshireman for very long, possibly only Spring 1954. The Summer 1954 carriage workings listed one in the train but photos from that Summer show a Gresley Restaurant First. So far as I am aware, 9065 was the number allocated to what had been 1225 but it was not renumbered. However, in the absence of primary sources, this cannot be confirmed.
  2. My impression this year was that the layouts on average were not as good as in some previous years but this probably reflects my own preferences to some extent. I thought there were several that were very good, including the Barrowmore American one, whose name escapes me, South Town (two very interesting Wickham DMUs), and Norwich Central. Blackfriars Bridge shows lots of promise and has the added interest for me in that I walk past the location on my way to or from the office, not that much is recognisable today. Several other layouts were good in part but let down in one way or another. For me, big negative points include unrealistic train formations and mixes of periods, as well as poor operation. I always go on Sunday and it only seemed busy and crowded around lunchtime. I never rely on exhibition catering so can't comment on that.
  3. Haven't posted any photos for a while. Here are some from today and last month. Bachmann have not done the roof headcode 108 in green with yellow panels, so removed the speed whiskers and added yellow panels to this one: P1080709am by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Black 5 on a newspaper train: P1080707am by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Class 22 on parcels: P1080706am by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Motive power depot: P1080705am by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Class 37 on an inter-regional service: P1080704am by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Station scene: P1080703am by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Class 45 on an inter-regional train. The formation is that of The Devonian: P1080702am by Robert Carroll, on Flickr D108 and D109 await departure: P1080699am by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Metro-Cammell units (all three of them): P1080698am by Robert Carroll, on Flickr 33 on a short freight - didn't quite get the loco in focus: P1080697am by Robert Carroll, on Flickr This 9F, with a 1F tender, came from Tony Wright: P1080694am by Robert Carroll, on Flickr 108s in the station: P1080692am by Robert Carroll, on Flickr 10203: P1080690am by Robert Carroll, on Flickr London Midland 9F with 1C tender: P1080685am by Robert Carroll, on Flickr First run for a Hornby Lord Nelson: P1080684am by Robert Carroll, on Flickr
  4. South Hetton in 1972: NCB-72_South-Hetton_3-7-72 by Robert Carroll, on Flickr
  5. Getting back to the original question, there are a couple of challenges when modelling early to mid-1970s Paddington-West of England trains. One is the non-availability of a Mark I restaurant buffet (RB) in 00, apart from the old Mainline one. Another is the lack of a Mark 2c brake second open. Several of the Plymouth/Penzance trains had two BSOs coupled together in the Penzance section and an RB in the Plymouth portion. Paignton trains are slightly easier as they generally did not have a BSO. The Cornish Riviera/Golden Hind sets from May 1972 also did not have any BSOs but there was a period when the catering was a kitchen buffet (RKB) - a type not available RTR. There was still plenty of Mark I stock too, especially on the local and inter-regional trains. A full set of the WR carriage working books from the period is available via my coaching stock group - link below. PS - Mark 2d/e/f air-condition stock did not work regularly in Devon and Cornwall until 1976, although some sets appeared on Summer weekends prior to that time. The air-con stock only launched on the WR in late 1972 on Paddington-Bristol and then South Wales services.
  6. I can't give an exact date but it seems to have been an early 1960s thing on the GE - take the Clacton units for example - if I recall correctly their carriage numbers had GE prefixes. For the NER, it might have dated from when the merger with the ER was being proposed. NE prefixes were commonplace in the mid-1960s, including on repaints into blue/grey.
  7. Thanks, some useful resources there. I had it in mind that someone had found a photo of a 4-lights one at Banbury in blue/grey but now the old RMWeb has disappeared I can't track it down anywhere.
  8. On the old and now-disappeared RMWeb I think someone posted a photo of the set Hornby had modelled, but the only photos I can find are of a refurbished unit in white/blue. I was wondering if Hornby's version, in blue/grey with red buffer beams and the end with four marker lights was grounded in any sort of reality, even if with different numbers. I ask because I acquired a new, unused set this week at a very good price.
  9. Interesting comments about the blue square with cream stripe, evident on this unit: DMU_Class_114_Undated by Robert Carroll, on Flickr
  10. No sign of this book in the latest Crecy catalogue, for Autumn 2019/Spring 2020.
  11. Some images of the early 79XXX series on the WR: Sc79098_Paddington by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Swindon-IC_Birmingham-Swansea_nrCardiff by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Swindon-Inter-City_WR by Robert Carroll, on Flickr WR_Inter-City-Buffet-Unit by Robert Carroll, on Flickr W79089 by Robert Carroll, on Flickr
  12. I have encountered a related problem. On my one, the gear wheels are not fixed to the axles so they spin and the axles don't. Looks like poor engineering to me. The gear wheels seem to be a simple push fit except that they are not tight enough to the axles. I wonder if my other two railbuses will go the same way. One is AC Cars and the other Park Royal.
  13. I have just finished reading a new book by Richard Harper, 'Any colour you like - A journey through Britain's Railways in the 1970s'. 176 pages large format hardback with lots of images. It's available here, cost £25: https://www.railbluebooks.co.uk/ ISBN 978 1 9164001 1 5 The book will, in time, also be available through conventional booksellers. I ordered mine on Monday and it arrived yesterday. I found it such an interesting and engaging read that I read it pretty much non-stop from cover to cover in one day. The story is told in a very objective manner. It's not a 'picture' book or an in-depth technical history but is a well-illustrated journey through the major developments, issues and challenges for BR in the 1970s. Each chapter ends with a perspective view from someone who was in the industry at the time, including Chris Green and Adrian Shooter. I have read other books which have claimed to be an authoritative account of developments in BR but which are utter drivel. This book stands in stark contrast to those.
  14. I will need to live until I'm about 500 to get through my existing list of projects! I'm still hopeful of a new RB to replace my old Mainline ones and a Cross-Country DMU (which has been announced in 0 gauge). I think in the past standards were not generally as high as they are now. I have seen lots of older kit-built engines and carriages which were probably much better than contemporary RTR items when they were built or where there were no RTR equivalents, that would not stand up to scrutiny today. I built loads of kits of carriages and units in the 1990s but most have been ditched as more recent RTR models are better. I also bought several kit-built engines, all but two of which have now gone as RTR ones have replaced them. The Bachmann 9F compared to the DJH one is a good example, and a recent swap with Tony. I once built a DC Kits Cravens DMU. I now have 10 vastly better Bachmann ones.
  15. Like a decent Mark I Diag 24 RB for a start... Clearly they are very peripheral, as there were only 128 of them across all regions in loads of liveries from 1960 to the 1990s, and with few external changes making tooling a bit less difficult than it otherwise might be. And no, they are not the same as an RU. And Gresley vestibuled (ie gangwayed) stock that is at least approximately the correct shape. And some GWR or LNER dining cars, and a decent LMS one. Not forgetting DMUs - still waiting for a 104, 120 (or 119) and 116, amongst others. Not everyone has the time, skill or money to build them (or have them built) anywhere near as well as a good RTR model would be.
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