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  1. But which green? She’s been in a number of shades! You have ‘BR Southern’ green which was originally painted on a non-refurbished saloon by Fragonset in July 2003. The saloon was not named ‘Caroline’ until February 2005…so would you print nameplates or not? I would utterly love to have this model with a Fragonset 31/33! We all know of the stories surrounding the resultant Virvidan green on the re-built saloon in spring 2008, yet even this changes! In 2012 GSM-R equipment was fiitted (antenna on the roof and new cab equipment), the step lamp was changed and new safety decals were applied. Deep Brunswick Green followed in January 2015, which is basically what the ‘003’ model is based on…or is it? The roof was not actually repainted until the winter of 2017…running with a much brighter grey for two years. Should this be modelled? Now with her ‘cool grey’ roof, we should now have the model 003 representing the prototype…well if you remove the CET Tank and add the older toilet pipe. At least the model in the box represents the period from March 2021 to spring 2023! If you want to model after then, Caroline has been painted back into ‘proper’ BR Southern Green. So should this be modelled? Certainly scope, she looks rather charming in her latest livery, even if the locomotive traction is rather garish these days! Yet how long before she’s fitted with ETCS equipment and would Revolution be willing to tool the differences to the cab? Seems to be a forever moving goal post. I am game for 'Fragonset' era and bang up to date, but would be rather annoyed if 003 was re-run as Revolution always said its a pre-order/truly unique opportunity with a price tag to reflect!
  2. Interesting discuss on West Coast Railway’s use of colour. As someone who is aware of the paint code that WCR use, I thought to inject some practical points away from my chair. WCR uses British Rail Standard Coaching Stock Maroon. Not their own ‘WCRC maroon’. Maroon is maroon, also know universally as British Standard 381C xxx…opps that would be selling for a penny! As someone has noted on here, maroon is a transient colour and it changes (darkens) over time. No one photo shall match another as no one coach is painted at the same moment. Photos are a dangerous reference to use, some are clearly taken on a sunny day with direct sunlight. Others taken on a dull day, with a weathered coach. Unless we know the type of camera and are viewing on Apple’s Pro Display XDR/Studio Display/Macbook Pro with P3 true colour (okay you might not get a university discount…so go view in an Apple store)…we all find ourselves sliding down a tricky slope to push our chairs back up! These photos of my trusty British Standard Colour Chart, one taken by artificial light and one in direct dull/overcast sunlight, shows how much 381C xxx / British Rail Maroon varies. None to my mind match what we are seeing here. Bachmann looks far more representative. If I was being generous, I'd say the Accurascale maroon appears to match a coach that is freshly painted, in direct sunlight. Giving a much brighter effect to the colour. What we would need to check is to ask WCR whether the correct paint code was given to Accurascale, as it does appear a little light. If anything, it looks like a RAL match by the factory to BS. Anyone reached out? One thing is clear, assuming Accurascale have worked with WCR (as why would they not?!). Is that their coach shall fade like the prototype over time. I know Accurascale are very popular on here right now. Yet Bachmann have had a proven, long established history with paint accuracy. I would trust their artistic representation of coach, and it shall be interesting to establish what British Standard paint code Accurascale used. No doubt they shall be along quickly to confirm they have also used the appropriate British Standard provided by WCR and we can all laugh about how impossibly transient Maroon is!
  3. Anyone going to address the elephant shouting 'here here here' in the room? If these are coming in a future quarter, on my mama! Also cannot find any information about the class 69, stating it is now available to order. Naturally shall be going for SFX!
  4. Seen this 'Warley Special'? Just grabbed myself a second one to re-number to 419! https://revolutiontrains.com/product/o-gauge-Heljan-37-4-drs-compass-livery-37405/
  5. Correct, they are the same measurements of more recent ones. Only clusters which are slightly deeper are the new type (seen on 004). All measurements can be found here: https://www.bmac.ltd.uk I rejected my Hatton's ones a long time ago, so do not have a model to measure against a prototype.
  6. I am so pleased others have spotted this too, it's my number one bug bear about the Hatton's tooling. If I may combine your photos, to suggest the modern light also should have the same size lamps. I told Steve a few times. Also, I am very interested in the GBRf ones. Yet, the white (too 'white' or 'cream') and green (too light) on 779 doesn't look (well is not) right. See attached correct colours, I am sure if Steve messages me privately I would happily share the codes, as I really want to buy 779 if correct. (Mind you, would you not have the artwork from GBRf?). On 763, I am not convinced by the gold. Seems too dark/too much honey. There is also a band of gold missing above the cab windows. The silver seems to be over printed too. (NB. there's different blues used by GBRf...certainly 752-778 came in a near 'ultramarine' blue). And now nitpicking... Look forward to ordering a sound fitted 779 from you, if the colours are sorted.
  7. Super useful post, when my three arrive I shall certainly be fitting a 20x20x7 into the short bonnet! Is there a president for ESU re-recording locomotives as the technology/market moves forward? I see here on Modelrailway.pt a photo of the upcoming Schindlers. I do like how Modelrailway.pt promote the hobby yet I would never stop buying through the outstandingly welcoming and helpful Daniel at Espacial Livraria E Papelaria. 2023 is going to be a golden year for modelling Portuguese railways!
  8. Or, perhaps some of us do not mind paying for an increased degree of accuracy?! ;) On speculation matters... I am hoping for some 37/4s in DRS Compass next week! A Wessex Trains 150 or 158 before I am dead would be nice too.
  9. Great photos @Mol_PMB!! I might have to re-think about the Arlo 1900 when/if they release a Medway version. Even though I would love a Norbrass 1900, no doubt it shall be around €1900! Not that I cannot afford, just that is a lot of port I could buy instead?! Are your 1400s sound fitted? Is the provided ESU speaker 'basey' enough or have you managed to fit a mega base or round enhanced base in there instead. Hard to know if space from the guide. (Ill easily answer for myself come later this year with all the new 1400s arriving!)
  10. That really is an outstandingly generous price for what is going to be the next benchmark OO locomotive after your Cl. 56. The pedantic attention to detail, whilst offering a great price, is truly noteworthy of admiration from me! I have always been rather on the fence in terms of interest in the Cl. 60, even though I have had some great experiences with them at Toton. Still, a Cappagh one is essential for anyone who likes stone trains and with the new level of detail you are bringing to the hobby, the Cappagh one is what I am getting! Look forward to further progress!
  11. I see sample photos are up on Hornby's website (https://uk.Hornby.com/products/gwr-class-800-trainbow-train-pack-era-11-r3872) for the upcoming GWR Trainbow IET 800/0 and it looks good with a vibrant rainbow (version worn from June 2018 to May 2022). I am impressed with the amount of label details they have printed on the IET, previous releases were rather lacking in the finer labels (or even correct door colours). Nice touch that the air-con fairings are now painted correctly with grey. Promising signs for the upcoming GWR 802/1. Shall be interesting to see whether it is 8-pin or 21-pin when it arrives. GWR green looks same as earlier releases, certainly Hornby's take on it. Still think Bachmann make a closer match, it is what it is if you want an IET.
  12. Just flagging this up, as perhaps the F5 button broke... I am pretty sure I read somewhere that Accurascale have recorded a 37/0, 37/7 and 37/6... surely a 37/4 too?
  13. Good to see the LokSound chips are now available to pre-order! Only, seeing as I am now the volunteered 'Accuraproof' reader for the website... The 'refurbished' sound chip has the description of the 'original'. Now that's out there, I have a question. I am a virtual novice to DCC Sound, yet I am looking to learn (your approach of providing a chip and a clip in speaker seems to be a great way to learn). My main experience of the 37s is from Norfolk during the short set days. I am assuming that the 'original' is for the 37/0s including Colas's 37116, with the 'refurbished' being suitable for the DRS (and HNRC) 37/4 & 37/6? I remember fondly from my Wednesday afternoon writing days that 37422 and 37716 sounded different to the rest of the 37/4s in Norfolk. The best was always 37405 for sheer phenomenal sound! Equally, when the RVEL rebuild 37407 & 424 came along, 407 had more verbal charm than 424. All this might be down to other factors... As the history is the 37 is rather complex, I do not want to assume that a refurbished sound is suitable for all modern livery 37s. Perhaps the specifications can state for what model it is suitable for?
  14. Ah, I did not know. I presumed that EarthMover was an ESU term/brand! Certainly having added sound to a Sudexpress 1400 and Euro 4000, the chip and speaker came attached from ESU. Good that Accurascale in the UK are making it as easy! OK great, that's the specification on the Accurathrash speaker on the website. Clearly the answer is that there is a single Accurathrash speaker that is fitted to all models, as well as being available to buy separately! Only... being new to sound and wanting the best... these are the sources to my confusion - The Deltic is here said having an 'EM1' speaker (through you say such a term cannot be used): https://www.accurascale.com/en-au/blogs/news/turn-your-deltic-up-to-11-with-our-dcc-sound-decoders-and-speaker-kit Yet, the Class 37 is clearly saying: https://www.accurascale.com/collections/class-37/products/class-37-hn-rail-37405-dcc-sound-fitted So, I shall ask again, but differently (please do not presume I am an idiot, I am only using published evidence to ensure I buy something I am happy with). Is the Accurathrash speaker available now as an accessory, from the Deltic timeline (first link) or upgraded to the Class 37 timeline (second link). As such, and avoiding brands, we know now the Deltic is equivalent to EM1 and the Class 37 to EM2. The above links, would make the Accurathrash equivalent to EM1 and thus inferior to what you have fitted to DCC Sound 37s? I do not want to end up buying the Accurathrash speaker as available, for it not to match a superior product in the Class 37. Clearly, as I have demonstrated, I am confused by the different uses of speaker terms (EM1/EM2) on the Accurascale website. Just seeking clarity, thank you for your efforts.
  15. OK, good to have it confirmed that the standard model comes with a higher frequency fitted speaker. Yet, my first question appears to be unanswered? I don't let students evade my line of questioning, so I won't let Accurascale off! Is the Accurathrash speaker equivalent to either an EarthMover One or EarthMover Two? Though the sound fitted 37s are listed as EM2, I only asked above, as over on the Deltic thread there was a suggestion that the Deltic had an EM1 at the same time the Accurathrash speaker was out (there is nothing in the specification to confirm either way). Naturally, I want to ensure my 37s sound as good as the EM2 factory fitted examples!
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