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  1. Thanks asmay2002 and Coach bogie for you info, the photo of 9707 is great. I wish I'd waited 24 hours before posting the questions as a new copy of The Pannier Papers No.6 arrived today by post and there are 7 plus pages of photos showing the Paddington trio with their lines! Cheers
  2. .......1503, 1504 and 1505!? I think I need to get my googlevision re-calibrated. Thank you.
  3. Hello, I'm trying to find some alternative liveries for 15xx, 94xx and 97xx panniers rather than the plain green or BR black. I ask the question because my trawlling through the internet and my limited library only shows lining on BR black liveries on locos in modern preservation not on original photos. I have a couple of colour pictures of a 15xx (1501) in a very scruffy NCB livery and BR black lined in preservation, is the latter a bit of fantasy? Another question, after seeing a couple of locos with condensing gear on the London Transport Muesum website, it got me wondering if the 97xx was ever seen in the London Transport red livery as per the 57xx? I'm assuming by the lack of photographic evidence it wasn't. I hope these questions have been put in the right forum and haven't been asked a million times before. Any help would be much appreciated as I'm new to this game and feel woefully behind the curve! Cheers
  4. Dat one..... That is the picture that's pushing me to do a second, as you say an unusual livery and looking very scruffy so should be fun painting and weathering. Andy M. thanks for the comment.
  5. I have been looking at the Bachmann 45xx for a repeat of the 15xx project and another in the pipeline, but get scared at the prospect of carving up a relatively expensive model as just chassis' don't seem to turn up on ebay etc! Corbs, you going to have to explain (NCB??), it's been a long day, I'm running low on beans and my small brain is full!
  6. Hi, cheers for your comment. To answer your question, I chose a Schools class because it seemed to have the closest wheel spacing to a 15xx based on my limited access to data. I had bought a couple of Mainline chassis' which according to some of my readings had similar dimensions to the real 15xx but the model dimensions appeared incorrect and visually just wouldn't have worked. And I suppose there was a bit of random luck regarding stuff coming up on ebay.
  7. I've finally plucked up the courage to post one of my little project on here. I've spent a while detailing and weathering existing locos but this is the first one involving any degree of reworking. This isn't an accurate model of a class 15xx but more of a working impression, as you can see for starters that the wheel spacing is incorrect. The main parts for the project were a Lima class 94xx body shell, a Hornby County Class chassis, a Hornby Schools Class cylinder bock and valve gear set, and Hornby 0-6-0 pannier wheels. The chassis was my starting point which also nearly sent me insane chasing around the floor for dropped screws and other tiny parts! I pulled all the wheels off the axles and bearing, discarding the County class wheels and the 0-6-0 axles and bearings to the spares box. The County axles were slightly loose so needed gluing into the pannier wheels. I did make myself a wheel jig but found that I got better results using the grid printed on my cutting mat to get the wheel quartering. I then set about cutting down the chassis block to roughly the correct length and at this point realised that I'd need to use it back to front to get the larger wheel spacing between the second and third axles. The wheels went back on and the County connecting rods were fitted along with the Schools cylinder block and valve gear. This last step took about a week of very fraught evenings getting eveything alined with a lot of swearing and a bit of wine! After test running it and feeling rather pleased with the results I moved onto the body. The beauty of the Lima bodyshell is that the smoke box and running plate are separate mouldings which can be removed to allow the tanks to be cut back. From the first two photos it can be seen how much of the body and chassis needed to be built up with plasticard and bits from the spares box (spot the Tamiya 1/35th Sherman idler wheel hub). Once the main train had taken form I started with the detailing which mainly involved yards of bronze wire, turned handrail knobs, replacement smoke box handle, tool and lamp brackets made from etch detail frets and replacement buffers. I used some Grandt Line bolts and rivets to detail the valve gear and other parts of the body. I also used their lifting eyes to replace the moulded on examples on the four corners of the tanks. I also used some parts from various Hornby detailing packs to add interest to the buffer beam, their metal couplings are amazing. I chose BR black as the colour scheme and set about airbrushing the chassis and body separately. Once dry I added etched number and shed plates and a BR logo then sprayed everything with matt varnish. The weathering was carried out with limited washs and heavier coats of weathering powders. Weathering powders are a new discovery for me and I feel I'm still on the beginners slope. Once happy with the finish I again gave the model a mist of matt varnish and left it to dry. The final step was to fit a crew and coal. I'm rather pleased with my attempt, particularly the movement of the valve gear which I find almost hypnotic. Plus it is DCC ready! The whole process seems a bit addictive and I have a number of projects in the pipeline. The next one will be a class 97xx, but rather than using the cast metal body (which when I got hold of a second hand one was rather a disapointment) I plan to chop up a couple of Bachmann body shells which are far supperior in detail. I hope this hasn't been too rambling and I apologise for the poor spelling and grammer.
  8. Thanks agian for the very useful info. The model dimensions are very useful. I think what I need to do is bite the bullet and get some test pieces to have a go with! Cheers.
  9. I'm trying to make a passable class 15xx chassis. So far the donor chassis' I've looked at only have one of the three criterior I'm looking for, roughly right wheel spacing but wrong wheel diameter, right wheel diameter but wrong spacing and if it has Walschaert valve gear it tends not to have the others! I'm even starting to think about having a go at making the subframe of the chassis from scratch and use donor parts for the connecting rods, valve gear and motor. I seem to have slightly lost the plot regarding panniers! Thanks for your info.
  10. cookisan


    Cheers for the welcome. Regards Joe
  11. Cheers David The information was great, I feel I'm at the top of the slippery slope! Regards
  12. Hi, wondering if anybody could help. How easy is it to remove the crank pins from the wheel - connecting rod? Am I right in thinking some are pressed in and others are screwed in. How interchangeable are connecting rods, valve gear and crank pins between different manufacturers and models? I have a bit of an idea for a project to make a passable representation of a chassis type which appears unavaliable, but before I start spending money I was hoping for some advice or experiences. Cheers
  13. cookisan


    Hello to all, I got back into model railways a year or so ago under the guise of a "father - son hobby" after a 30 year gap! I have a OO layout in the garage which is about 25% complete and is supposedly GWR based in the interwar period. So far costing a small fortune. Due to the low temperatures in the garage over this winter, I got into weathering and detailing of locos and rolling stock which could be done in the house. This has resulted in a bit of an ebay habit to get cheaper bits to practise on before I attack my prized Bachmann items! So really what I should do is apologize in advance for all the daft and probably repeatedly asked questions I'll be asking....sorry! It also gives my local model shop owner a break from said questions. Regards
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