[Dettingen GCR might have been layout]

To be honest I did the roof as it would annoy me once I knew it was wrong, bill nearly pointed it out.

Richard

[Dettingen GCR might have been layout]

To make bill happy I have rectified the roof, and have worked out what the small holes on the ends are four, a hand rail for the roof access.

 

 

I have got half way through its accompanying third.

I have decided I prefer first class, not for comfort or because I am a snob, but because it has less doors and so less hinges and windows etc.

 

I must get round to placing the order for the composite and brake third

Richard

[Wright writes.....]

Has anyone else noticed how this thread keeps gaining ground in terms of number of views and posts on other longer established ones. I would put it down to seeing people's skills is far more interesting than seeing what a factory can make. Long may it continue.

Richard

[Wright writes.....]

Ah,

 

But have you spotted the 'mistakes on every page'? Though immensely valuable, the RCTS green books are riddled with errors, as too is Yeadon. 

 

Just as an example, on page 87 of Pt. 6A in the RCTS green series it's stated that the K2s worked diverted trains via Barnsley and Mexborough to points east because of the underpass being constructed at Retford. Considering that the last K2 went in 1962 and the Retford dive-under was constructed in 1965, then how, and why? Willie also states that the U1 was the longest loco ever to operate on a British railway. Did he never measure an LMS Garratt?

 

Nit-picking? Perhaps, but there are loads more. Peter Coster gets hopelessly muddled with A3 boilers, as does the RCTS.

 

Never believe dates, either. Take the identical V2 pictures on page 53 of Peter Coster's Book of the V2s and page 61 of Willie Yeadon's volume on the V2s. Peter suggests 1957, yet Willie states 1959. Looking at the loco and stock, I'd say the former.

 

Never take as gospel anything I write, either!

 

I will ignore this post then!

Richard

[Kernow GWR steam rail motor]

You could always take a trix glaskasten for the chassis / motor / valve gear.. It can't be far out.https://www.themt.de/grossbild/glaskasten-20100320-5503

Interesting, but what is its wheelbase? And can it be made into a bogie?

Richard

[Dettingen GCR might have been layout]

I will not criticise the teacher for using the wrong type of English predictive text.

I will not criticise the teacher for using the wrong type of English predictive text.

I will not criticise the teacher for using the wrong type of English predictive text.

I will not criticise the teacher for using the wrong type of English predictive text.

I will not criticise the teacher for using the wrong type of English predictive text.

I will not criticise the teacher for using the wrong type of English predictive text.

I will not criticise the teacher for using the wrong type of English predictive text.

I will not criticise the teacher for using the wrong type of English predictive text.

I will not criticise the teacher for using the wrong type of English predictive text.

I will not criticise the teacher for using the wrong type of English predictive text.

I will not criticise the teacher for using the wrong type of English predictive text.

I will not criticise the teacher for using the wrong type of English predictive text.

I will not criticise the teacher for using the wrong type of English predictive text.

I will not criticise the teacher for using the wrong type of English predictive text.

I will not criticise the teacher for using the wrong type of English predictive text.

I will not criticise the teacher for using the wrong type of English predictive text.

I will not criticise the teacher for using the wrong type of English predictive text.

I will not criticise the teacher for using the wrong type of English predictive text.

I will not criticise the teacher for using the wrong type of English predictive text.

I will not criticise the teacher for using the wrong type of English predictive text.

 

My spell checker thingy wanted me to spell criticise with a z.

You have copy and pasted, that is cheating- two demerits

[Dettingen GCR might have been layout]

Here's a page of some of John Quick's models which shows the difference in the two brown liveries.

So livery change was 1908 and they went in 1910, so can it be assumed that some got back into teak? ( unlikely)

If not French gray looks by far the easier to produce.

Richard

[Dettingen GCR might have been layout]

I didn't know the French spelt grey the same as the Americans do.

Clive we have covered this before, it is the hazards of a USA I pad predictive text.

Kindly pay attention at the back boy otherwise you will have to write lines.

Richard

[Dettingen GCR might have been layout]

That photo shows coaches that have been refurbished and made into close coupled sets. The four wheeled coaches that form part of this thread had all be withdrawn from revenue service by 1910. Looking through my collection of photos where the trains are GC, and particularly the two colour passenger liveries, it is obvious that while some carriages, presumably late build stock, have roof vent on all compartments, many don't. Some carriages have no vents whiles other have vents over one or two compartments. See for instance the Biltcliffe photo on page 16 of "The Great Central in LNER Days 1" or the Biltcliffe photos in "Great Central Album"

I might hold off on painting to search for the French gray in the UK when I come over in the summer. What is a good colour match?

[Sheffield Exchange, Toy trains, music and fun!]

No longer having the houses on an embankment?

[Dettingen GCR might have been layout]

They might have got brown and french grey, but I doubt they had brown and cream livery. One of the quirks of the MS&L was that they only put ventilators over the smoking compartments, these were usually at the ends of the coach.

Hello filler my old friend, must use you once again

Cover up the mistakes I make

To improve the look of the rake....

 

That's as far as I got.

Richard

[Dettingen GCR might have been layout]

Progress on the first class carriage.

Externally all done, I feel it needs need an interior as it had compartments and so the light should not flow freely through it.

Then on to painting. Still leaning towards teak but brown and cream has a certain appeal.

Richard

[Dettingen GCR might have been layout]

I think the diamond piece is called a tumbler, but I have more questions: one shoe per wheel (push brakes) or two (clasp)?

What is the prototype for the kit? Who is the manufacturer? Are there no instructions? Have you contacted the manufacturer at all?

It is a GCR 4 wheeler of mslr origin. It is a Mousa model kit and they come with no instructions, but bill is helpful when I ask what pieces are and there are generic instructions on line, I just didn't see order of fit. I will play around with the tumbler idea. It has two bakes per shoe so is clasp braked.

Richard

[Dettingen GCR might have been layout]

Question time

How do I set up the brake rigging on a 4 wheeled coach?

I have two rods and a third diamond with three holes in it.

Does the picture help

 

Progress so far on the first

 

Any help gratefully received

Richard

[4mm Edwardian figures]

Armchair you were lucky! When I were a lad we had only wooden stool modeling .

Richard

 

Apologies to mp

[Dettingen GCR might have been layout]

Any advice happily received,

The arms are the same length as that was what I had but I will look into getting the correct sort.

I will get on to the bracket repaint too.

To be honest this will most likely be a temporary signal as I am not 100% happy with it and it will either go back into the works or I will try again from scratch.

I will be able to pick up more bits in the summer when I am back in the UK for a month, and I will have another go in the autumn.

Richard

[Dettingen GCR might have been layout]

And the builds go on.

The first of a pair of four wheelers.

 

 

Will need to get the rest of the train at a later date.......soon

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Build photos to follow as work progresses. Sould be simple, it is Bedford kit I find them a pleasure to build.....once I have worked out what every piece on the etch is.

Richard

[Dettingen GCR might have been layout]

Signal in situ

The lean will go once screwed down.

Richard

 

Why did it turn the image upside down? The layout is not in Australia ?

[The Official Rapido APT-E Thread]

What is it about forty year old men and this train. I model pregrouping but it was the future when I was a kid and it inspired me so have one ordered. It will fit right in passing my set of 4 wheeled GCR stock.

Richard

[The Official Rapido APT-E Thread]

Well there's where opinions differ, I think it's very worthwhile pointing out the ridiculousness of all the hype in this thread.  The tale of the 'kings new clothes' comes to mind. 

The APT fits my modeling perfectly

I model the one off, failures and never built of this world.

Some how i feel the rejected, missed opportunites and ugly ducklings deserve their time in the limelight so give me APT, give me fury, give me The Duke, W! and Great Bear. The Fowler pacific etc.

I therefore have ordered one. If you don't like it, great, less compertition for me when i bid on e bay for the ones that will never be a comercial proposition.

I wish you well in the modelling that you do like.

Richard

[The Official Rapido APT-E Thread]

This has to be the most boring Uk railway model ever.  I saw the real one at Shildon about this time last year, and the prototype model running on the club layout there at the same time.  It was boring then, and having seen the production model at Alley Pally yesterday nothing makes me change my mind.  Its still boring.  It looks like a long silver banana !

 

I'm sorry, but I think you've all been taken in by all the hype on here.

maybe it is just envy

i hear the ladies like long silver bananas

maybe sour grapes that you missed the boat and will not be able to impress the ladies with yours?

[Dettingen GCR might have been layout]

Signal done, it was a double swear and I now see why layout signals slowly appear, as no one can want to build a batch of them.

But yes it works, now it needs fitting and getting to work on the layout. That's electics so that will be waiting a while.

 

It has GCR support, finials and lamps, can we tell, maybe only the support.

More once fitted

Richard

[Ratio GWR bracket signals]

Sorry to open this up again, but fighting with the arms and cranks, question. If the back shade glues to the pin coming from the arm, what then is the white pin coming straight out the back of the post in almost the same place for? It hinders the movement of the signal, am I missing something?

Many thanks

Richard

[Dettingen GCR might have been layout]

Modern? Come on Mr Historyman, Conrail went out of business in 1998.

I normally model pre grouping so 1998 is modern to me. Besides in artistic terms modern was a specific time period which we have moved beyond and so are now post modern or even beyond that.

[The Official Rapido APT-E Thread]

Why not wait until it arrives to find out the number, it will not change by ringing up and people are unlikely to cancel if they are number 21 or 27. Ironically as so many are saying they cannot wait for it to appear, ringing up Sandra might slow the whole process of packing etc down and delay when people get their models.

I have waited a year and a half so what is a few more days? I know locomotion will be doing their utmost to get orders out. Can we ask any more of them than that? I think not after all it is their job, but that is it, it is just their job. They have a right to a home life too as we all are. So I would say to them, pack for the eight hour working day, go home and enjoy your homes, come in the next day rinse and repeat. If it means my model arrives a little later so be it. It is after all not a matter of need, it is only a want....a fantastic want but a want never the less.

Richard.