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Had a quick go in paint, it doesn't show the entire layout but just that platform road. I assumed a ground frame as it seems a similar situation to a loco release crossover between two platfrom roads, alot of those were hand worked even at larger stations. The platform line is the outermost of three platform roads, which run into an overall roof. The milk dock line diverges just before the lines go under the roof, so the milk dock is outside the main building.

Good point, thanks. Station was built by the LCDR and maybe the LBSCR, but its set in the late 1960's to early 1970's. Still using the steam era track and signals, but with blue diesels.

I should also say the only thing using the siding is milk tanker wagons, there would never be a loco "shut in" so to speak. There wouldn't be enough room to do that.

Hi all, I need a little help with signalling an unusual section of track layout please. I've got a terminus platform line that has a siding diverging to a milk dock about a third of the way along its length. This siding can only be accessed when there is no train standing on the platform line, and is probably going to be worked with a ground frame as opposed to the signal box. In my mind as the milk siding joins the platform line well before the platform starter signals, and it isnt a running line, it doesn't need its own exit signal? The ground frame would still need to be unlocked by the signal box anyway, so that should be enough protection I would think?

Whilst looking for ideas on how to hide the fiddleyard entrance on the viaduct layout, I came across the ideal prototype in Brixton junction signal box. There are a few pics online of the outside of the building, but I can't quite figure out how the interior layout would be arranged. Presumably the wooden "balcony" was just a lookout for better sighting, and the lever frame would be at the back of the building? Or was the lookout a later addition and the lever frame was then in the middle of the box? Seems a very unusual design, and the only other example I can find was Loughborough junction. Anyone have some info on it?

Not tried it, but I would think citadel paints "ultramarine blue" would be a match. Tamiya ts15 spray might also be close.

Works better than a mirror I think, as you say a suggestion is all that it needs. A mirror would show too much detail and break the illusion, like the fact the two cars are driving away from each other. The mirror card blurs it into shadow so you can only see the shadow of the other car, not which direction it's pointing. Besides the shimmer effect just looks like a hot day in the city...

Alot of modelers use automotive spray paint, if you want brush on paint Citadel do a great range.

Fenchurch street station. This has a road under it with a pub in the arches, then an office block on top.

Thanks, depending on how this turns out I might have a bash at some others.

I'm using the chassis and motor bogies from the Hornby Brighton Belle for this conversion, they run well and the underframe equipment is a close match to the PUL driving motor cars going by the pictures I've seen. However they will need to be shortened by 12mm. If I've got my measurements correct the 5BEL motor coach was 66.5ft long or 266mm in 4mm scale, vs the 6PUL motor coach at 63.5ft or 254mm long in 4mm. Looking at the Hornby chassis I think the best place to make the cut is just after the air tanks, there is a gap in the underfloor detail here that doesn't seem to be present on the PUL units. When I did a quick mock up with the parts taking 12mm length out of it would look correct visually, other than that it looks quite believable. I don't want to chop up the window section from the open coach other than changing the doors, so any discrepancies in length can be lost in the brake compartment. Interestingly if I was doing the 2 prototype motor cars I could get away without shortening the chassis, they were a little longer so the difference would only be 3mm and not noticeable. The difference being 7 full side windows vs the 6.5 that I'm going for.

That's going to be fun to operate, plenty to keep you busy and easy to extend the layout to the left past the factory if you wanted to add some extra sidings to shunt. Hope you dont mind but one question I have, is have you left enough room between the CT siding and the exit track to fit the CT building in? It does look quite tight. A possible alteration for you to consider is to bring the two points closer to the road in the middle of the board, that would let the tracks around CT spread further and give more room. You could even hide the exit track by running it underneath the upper level as it exits the layout.

So for quite a few years I've fancied building one of the former SR express emu's, I had planned to have a go at a 4COR but a few chance ebay purchases mean it will now be a 6PUL. I say 6PUL but it will actually be a reformed 6COR. I plan to represent unit 3042 which was one of the few to painted in rail blue, lasting in service till late in 1968. This will be a first for me, I've built plastic kits before but never had a go at a proper cut and shut job like this. I'll have a go at the motor cars first, the starting point for these is the Ian Kirk coach sides for the Maunsell open 3rd and brake 3rd coaches. These will be chopped up and rearanged to form the correct looking window layout, and a silver fox cab fitted in front. I'll use a Hornby 5bel chassis and bogies as these seem to be a close representation, although the chassis will need to be shortened. A quick pic of the parts collected so far.

That's the one! Thank you. It looked like some sort of shelf layout/diorama from the glimpse in the video, but I couldn't find any reference to it in the guide. An interesting bit of modeling either way.

Thanks, but it wasn't York road. I've taken a screen shot of it, looks like a couple of layout modules possibly?

That's coming together very well, are you having platform access from street level?

Sadly work commitments meant I couldn't attend this year, but it looks to have been a great show. Could anyone help me with the name of london underground cameo layout, near to the Double o gauge association stand please? Just caught a glimpse of it in a show video.

Thank you for posting those pics, several internet searches for pics of the blue units were not bearing any fruit. At least the masking job will be simple to do, the side of the cab has no raised detail where the join is. I'm nearly ready to make a start on the motor cars, the kirk maunsell coach kits and sliver fox Pul cabs are here. I'm Just waiting for the Hornby 5BEL chassis and bogies to arrive, which I think will need some surgery to shorten a little.

Thanks for the info, you wouldn't happen to know how far around the sides of the cab the yellow was? I'm guessing the cab door was blue, but the cabside itself was yellow?

Would be great if the old track could be taken to Risborough to help with the independent line project, that worked well during the Aylesbury branch work last year.

The top level being on a shuttle is a good idea, just sit back and watch between shunting the lower level. Would the C&NW have any commuter operations into the 90's, or would it all be Metra by then? I've been collecting stock to build something similar, though set in the late 60's with New haven and Penn central trains.

Ordered some Hornby 5BEL motorized chassis, they will need to be shortened and widened slightly but are a close match for the PUL motor cars.

In that case swap it for a single slip, otherwise it will bug you later.

Was the line that reaches the right side of the board a through line? If it was through running line a single slip would be preferred, but not essential.

Platforms looking good, are you going for 3 coaches long? I'm not too familiar with the routes that pass by the chocolate factory site, but would this line have seen a Metra e8 or f40c?