simon b

Not tried it, but I would think citadel paints "ultramarine blue" would be a match. Tamiya ts15 spray might also be close.

Works better than a mirror I think, as you say a suggestion is all that it needs. A mirror would show too much detail and break the illusion, like the fact the two cars are driving away from each other. The mirror card blurs it into shadow so you can only see the shadow of the other car, not which direction it's pointing. Besides the shimmer effect just looks like a hot day in the city...

Alot of modelers use automotive spray paint, if you want brush on paint Citadel do a great range.

Fenchurch street station. This has a road under it with a pub in the arches, then an office block on top.

Thanks, depending on how this turns out I might have a bash at some others.

I'm using the chassis and motor bogies from the Hornby Brighton Belle for this conversion, they run well and the underframe equipment is a close match to the PUL driving motor cars going by the pictures I've seen. However they will need to be shortened by 12mm. If I've got my measurements correct the 5BEL motor coach was 66.5ft long or 266mm in 4mm scale, vs the 6PUL motor coach at 63.5ft or 254mm long in 4mm. Looking at the Hornby chassis I think the best place to make the cut is just after the air tanks, there is a gap in the underfloor detail here that doesn't seem to be present on the PUL units. When I did a quick mock up with the parts taking 12mm length out of it would look correct visually, other than that it looks quite believable. I don't want to chop up the window section from the open coach other than changing the doors, so any discrepancies in length can be lost in the brake compartment. Interestingly if I was doing the 2 prototype motor cars I could get away without shortening the chassis, they were a little longer so the difference would only be 3mm and not noticeable. The difference being 7 full side windows vs the 6.5 that I'm going for.

That's going to be fun to operate, plenty to keep you busy and easy to extend the layout to the left past the factory if you wanted to add some extra sidings to shunt. Hope you dont mind but one question I have, is have you left enough room between the CT siding and the exit track to fit the CT building in? It does look quite tight. A possible alteration for you to consider is to bring the two points closer to the road in the middle of the board, that would let the tracks around CT spread further and give more room. You could even hide the exit track by running it underneath the upper level as it exits the layout.

So for quite a few years I've fancied building one of the former SR express emu's, I had planned to have a go at a 4COR but a few chance ebay purchases mean it will now be a 6PUL. I say 6PUL but it will actually be a reformed 6COR. I plan to represent unit 3042 which was one of the few to painted in rail blue, lasting in service till late in 1968. This will be a first for me, I've built plastic kits before but never had a go at a proper cut and shut job like this. I'll have a go at the motor cars first, the starting point for these is the Ian Kirk coach sides for the Maunsell open 3rd and brake 3rd coaches. These will be chopped up and rearanged to form the correct looking window layout, and a silver fox cab fitted in front. I'll use a Hornby 5bel chassis and bogies as these seem to be a close representation, although the chassis will need to be shortened. A quick pic of the parts collected so far.

That's the one! Thank you. It looked like some sort of shelf layout/diorama from the glimpse in the video, but I couldn't find any reference to it in the guide. An interesting bit of modeling either way.

Thanks, but it wasn't York road. I've taken a screen shot of it, looks like a couple of layout modules possibly?

That's coming together very well, are you having platform access from street level?

Sadly work commitments meant I couldn't attend this year, but it looks to have been a great show. Could anyone help me with the name of london underground cameo layout, near to the Double o gauge association stand please? Just caught a glimpse of it in a show video.

Thank you for posting those pics, several internet searches for pics of the blue units were not bearing any fruit. At least the masking job will be simple to do, the side of the cab has no raised detail where the join is. I'm nearly ready to make a start on the motor cars, the kirk maunsell coach kits and sliver fox Pul cabs are here. I'm Just waiting for the Hornby 5BEL chassis and bogies to arrive, which I think will need some surgery to shorten a little.

Thanks for the info, you wouldn't happen to know how far around the sides of the cab the yellow was? I'm guessing the cab door was blue, but the cabside itself was yellow?

Would be great if the old track could be taken to Risborough to help with the independent line project, that worked well during the Aylesbury branch work last year.

The top level being on a shuttle is a good idea, just sit back and watch between shunting the lower level. Would the C&NW have any commuter operations into the 90's, or would it all be Metra by then? I've been collecting stock to build something similar, though set in the late 60's with New haven and Penn central trains.

Ordered some Hornby 5BEL motorized chassis, they will need to be shortened and widened slightly but are a close match for the PUL motor cars.

In that case swap it for a single slip, otherwise it will bug you later.

Was the line that reaches the right side of the board a through line? If it was through running line a single slip would be preferred, but not essential.

Platforms looking good, are you going for 3 coaches long? I'm not too familiar with the routes that pass by the chocolate factory site, but would this line have seen a Metra e8 or f40c?

The rest of the bogies are white metal sides glued to a plastic center, not a great idea and prone to bits falling of it seems. I've got a Triang dummy DMU bogie that has pickups for the headcode lights that model had, that can go at the inner end of the power car, then normal coach bogies for the rest of the cars. It's a bit of a crude setup compared to bogies we have on offer now , but then so is the model they are attached to!

So the other bogies arrived yesterday, one complete dock shunter chassis and a spare dmu casting. Last night I just swapped the wheels over to see how it looks and the result is definitely an improvement, it now sits level rather than nose down. Here's a before and after comparison, still not perfect but it's level. I'll try the other bogie casting incase this one does have wear in it, and turn down the wheel flanges while it's in bits.

Love it, will be following this with interest as North American comutter operations are rarely modeled. Are you going to use the walthers high level station on the upper level, or yet to be decided?

That's great news, long live the Hattons name.

That is pretty much what I plan to do to create the PUL. I managed to get hold of a few open third and brake third kits on the cheap, so hopefully they can be cut and shut into something passable. Use the window sections from the open coach with the doors from the brake coach, silver fox cab on the front. Then sit the lot on a Hornby 2bil chassis with the trussing removed. I thought in might be possible to bash a PAN using a Maunsell dining saloon, or sections from a 5BEL.