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  1. I'm slowly working my way through a Q kits LCDR "T" class which I bought (along with an R1) from "Mr Q" himself about ten years ago. I have a feeling it was one of the last sold as i went over to his house in Selby. To be honest, the quality of casting is diabolical with some blow out holes and lots of mis-shapen parts. It's taken a long time to get the "T" anything like half finished and I've not yet achieved a chassis that i'm happy with. However, i press on. Good luck with this, and I like to see people still doing the older kits. there are lots around and it feels a lot more satisfying to wrestle with a Q or Jidenco kit and suceed than to watch a more modern kit almost build iself. AmI being a masochist?
  2. People may be interested to know that Ace model products are, by all accounts (= a post on the agenoria models thread on the kitbuilding forum), readying an LCDR "T" class tank kit. I'm not sure if this is in "O" or "OO", but either way it's good news for those of us interested in the SECR and the southern.
  3. I was tempted by one of these, to build the mid wales rly version. i shall watch with interest....
  4. I'm just finishing a Q kit's 4mm version of this. I look forward to an ACE 4mm version, because the Q kits loco is a shocker. Proper kitbuilding; none of this "it goes together" rubbish.
  5. I work in 4mm and look at the range of RtR that's available and it's something that i couldn't have dreamed of twenty years ago. I (still) model the southern in the thirties and the thought that there would ever be an E4 available RtR is just incredible. BUT... I enjoy building kit and the locomotives that I want to run aren't available, either as RtR or Kit; does anyone make an ex-LC&DR M3? Or an A class? Does anyone even know what they are! I am sure that kit building will continue although as a subgroup of a niche hobby. however, i can see the potential for a maufacturer of unusual prototypes to struggle with sales. Good customer servie and very active promotion is perhaps the only solution.
  6. This is a fascinating thread - as a boy from "the provinces" (well, Bedfordshire), I only got to visit KX models once or twice in the eighties. It's lovely to read stories of all the people whose names I've read in magazines over the years. Sad to say all of the model shops i remember as a boy have gone (there were four in bedford, that i can think of) and even in Yorkshire where i am now there are only the odd one or two left.
  7. My apologies - I'd read my way through the thread but not noticed that.
  8. On the "why wasn't the fire brigade called" front, it might be worth remembering that carlisle is on the other side of the border in England. I suspect that in 1915, such things mattered. The nearest "local" fire brigade to Quintinshill might have been Annan (if it had one) or Dumfries. Equally, it was the role of the railway company servants to intervene - hence questions in the B-o-T report about the provision of tools etc in the trains. In the 21stC we are very used to calling an expert. in 1915, the experts were there, on the ground.
  9. That's a quality job you're doing there. I'm still building my Q kits "T" class, which must be from the same era (it's also a mix of dodgy casting and etched brass). I find building these more satisfying than some better designed stuff as recent stuff just falls together. With so many wonderful kits about the place, i sometimes feel that I'm just an assembler and not a modeller!
  10. That was the only one about PO wagons (it's also indexed as "MAP") - the AG Thomas books were A5 format and a bit smaller than that one. they were full of sketches
  11. Those were AG Thomas's "Private owner wagons", the first book I ever bought on PO wagons was his Volume 3. They're all in the index as AGT1 / 2 / 3. They can be a little inaccurate as they were done "off the wagon side" during the war and just after when a lot of PO wagons were in poor shape. There's one case (I forget the wagon) where a wagon was repaired with two planks off a scrapped one, giving rise to a very odd combination of names.
  12. By way of a progress report, here's an updated version of last weeks file. it now indexes approximately 2200 owners, although I've not been through and tidied up the punctuation etc - in any case, there are still a dozen or so books to go, but all of the Turton, Hudson and Thomas books are in there, along with the OPC Gloucester book and some others. I (think) i can see light at the end of the tunnel. If anyone's got a copy of "private owner wagons on the cambrian" that they don't want - by the welsh railway circle, circa 1997 - I'm after a copy. More next week! Private owner wagons index 12 5.xls
  13. Bill might be the man to talk to - or maybe the intro to his first private owner's book might shed some light on what he saved. And of course, if you take a trip to Matlock, there's Peak rail and his bookshop to peruse!
  14. Im aware of the lightmoor index but its hard to Navigate - I wanted to be able to find wagons which operated in and around kent, and this was the answer..... Now it seems to be answering questions I never asked!! I'd also stress that this isn't primary research, its me trawling through the thirty or so published works on PO wagons - the real heroes of this are messrs. Hudson, Turton, pope etc etc
  15. Hello all I've started creating a searchable index to published private owner wagons in excel format. It lists wagons by Owner, location, county, associated railway, type and publication. I'm about half way through indexing the 30 or so publications on PO wagons from the UK - it started when i wanted to find the published ones from the south of england and, like topsy, it growed. I attach it for anyone's perusal. I'd stress it's a work in progress and a lot of editing will be needed, but people may find it of value. Stewart Ellinson Private owner wagons index.xls
  16. In short "no". "Back in the day", I converted a 4mm slaters 4 wheeled van to a six wheeler. If you compare the drawings, the six wheeler is about 4 planks longer (roughly the width of the central springs) and I spliced in four planks to lengthen it to the length of the six wheeler. I'd GUESS that the six wheeler could be shrunk down to 4 wheel length by a similar (but opposite) process. Stewart Ellinson
  17. I've just found this thread and it's wonderful to see the genius that is Allan Downes producing masterful work still. Your articles in RM through the seventies and eighties were an inspiration. I'll stop gushing now.
  18. I've got a pair of Sutherland HR Bolsters that I built thirty years ago - they're solid white metal. Nice things, but a little out of place on the Hawkhurst Branch! I've got a Nu cast Sentinel which i've just re-engined with a tenshodo bogie after years of running with the original powertrain and then my own verson. This was an interesting thing, the original being a cast block with plastic motor mounts and a gear train to a woem for each axle. i seem to think that the motor was a DS10. It ran poorly and i replaced much of the castings with a brass chassis I'd made myself, re-using the original gearing. The motor bogie swap has at last allowed me to include some detail inside the sentinel, something that a mobile box on wheels needs! I've also got a Nu-cast "Y5", the first kit I ever built and a lovely thing. For years it ran with the white metal chassis block and an anchoridge D11 crammed inside. A good few years back, i bought a pair of new frames from autocom and my next job is to put these under the body. It's a beautiful little thing and I'm very attached to it... happy days! Stewart
  19. The B&CDR baltics were, by all accounts, horrid. They even look wrong and i struggle to see how they survived so long. The Donegal baltics, on the other hand, were things of beauty.
  20. On the Southern, they'd probably have survived longer and been rebuilt into 4-6-0s, as happened with the LBSCR Baltics. I think the southern's steam policy was much more "make do and mend" as their ultimate aim for much of the system was electrification and even in the thirties, steam was seen as an intermediate step. The LMSR and others saw steam as the future and therefore it was a case of modernise the steam fleet - getting rid of small classes like the baltics en route. The LNER seem to have been more open to small classes for particular jobs under Gresley (witness the P2 class), but Thompson and peppercorn were much more standardisation focussed and businesslike. ah for the patch it and hope southern!! Stewart
  21. The Hughes baltic tanks were victims of the LMS scrap and standardise policy of the thirties. They were, in any case, far too big and heavy and just not as useful as the various classes of 2-6-4 which superseded them. It's telling that the LYR intended to build fifty of them, but only the first ten were built under the LMS and the remainder were turned out as conventional tender "Dreadnought" 4-6-0s which were only very slightly different to the rest of the class (I think they had a curve to the front framing above the footplate and a very slightly bigger grate area). Interestingly, the LMS inherited all bar one of the standard gauge baltic tank classes built in the UK (LTSR, FR, GSWR, LYR), the other being of course the LBSCR tanks. There is a book by - I think - Charles Fryer called British Baltic tanks which gives a little info on their duties. They seem to have spent at least some time operating out of Manchester on Buxton locals. I suspect their weight - 100 tons give or take - limited their use to main lines with sturdy underbridges, the 2-6-4s being rather lighter on the track. I know the LTSR Baltics spent some time operating out of St. Pancras on outer suburban services to bedford and I rather think that the Hughes baltics did a similar thing around Manchester, going to Buxton, Southport and similar places. I believe at least one of them was sent to London for comparison with the LTSR engines on the Bedford services. The GSWR Baltics performed similar services around Glasgow and it seems to have been the fate of all the LMS Baltics to dwindle away on local and semi-fast services from various cities. Only the Brighton baltics got to perform "proper" express services for any length of time! The Hughes baltics were the last standard gauge Baltics in the UK. The Brighton engines lasted longer, but only as conversions to tender engines, with the last Hughes Baltic going in 1941 or 42. In my "one day i'll get around to it" box I've got a Millholme baltic kit and enough ratio MR suburbans to build an 8-set, which some pictures show them hauling. I've got a mad scheme to build a 4mm - foot example of all of the baltic classes; the Hughes and LBSCR engines are easy enough as they're available (sort of) as kits (Millhome and Langley), but the others are scratchbuild only - I'd probably start with the FR Rutherfords as they're handsome and interesting locos. All in all, the British Baltic is an interesting beast and it's a shame that they didn't survive longer, because the pictures certainly show them to be very "beasty"! Stewart
  22. One last one I missed out, an article in Model railway Constructor in about 1976 "Clungunford Cottage" by (?) Doris Stokes. It inspired me to model scenery in detail.
  23. South eastern finecast also do a very nice Adams "B4" 0-4-0, an update from the old McGowan kit. It's a bit more challenging than the G6, but very satisfying. I've just finished one which runs beautifully and there's enough space in the body for a flywheel! SEF kits are very good in general Stewart
  24. Great photos and very interesting - does anyone have, or know of, any photos of the cab of the CE / CEDG type sentinel, as seen in the Nu-cats kit of yore? I'm revamping one at the moment and the replacement of the "hopw did it ever run" nucast mechanism with a black beetle bogie has left a big gap which should contain a boiler, cylinders and other controls. However, i just don't know what they look like. Can anyone help? Stewart
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