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  1. Rodney Despite some detail anomalies or omissions they are still a lovely little model. I can understand why you're loathed to repaint!! Cheers Andy.
  2. I can't comment on the tank recess as I've not seen any photos from above looking down. However, it seems that the guard irons have been altered and look more prototypical which is a big plus!! The Isle of Wight Terriers in Southern Railway days were fitted for air brake only operation of fitted rollingstock. Unfortunately, as well as a Westinghouse air pump, the model representation of W10 Cowes has a vacuum ejector pipe fitted from the cab to smokebox and associated vacuum braking pipework below the running plate. This could be removed if required I guess. Cheers Andy.
  3. Hello Dave Are you considering 4-wheel full brakes also? Cheers Andy.
  4. A return to a "Design Clever" style of approach to reduce costs, reduce R&D time and speed up production maybe? Andy.
  5. Hello I'd like to wade into this debate on detailing. I have already commented on A1X smokebox rivets but there is something else that has not (to my knowledge) been touched on. This is the arrangement of air brake pipes and vacuum brake pipes. Very noticeable on the real thing, particularly the dual braked locos, is the arrangement of air brake pipes and vacuum pipes on the front and rear buffer beams. The dual fitted A1Xs tended to have the vacuum pipes on the right hand side of the front buffer beam (as you look head on) and the air brake pipe on the left hand side. The vacuum pipe being in a lower position than air brake pipe on the front buffer beam and the vacuum pipe higher than the air pipe on the rear. It is noticeable that the Hornby representation of these features show a vacuum pipe only on the left hand side of the front and rear buffer beams of both BR representations (to reduce costs no doubt). Rails model of 32661 also shows the vacuum pipe on the left hand side (head on) which is incorrect for this loco. Neither model show any representation of the pipework along / under the running plate that connect these pipes to either the vacuum ejector or the air pump. This is maybe due to the Rails model being a 1st EP(?) and the Hornby model to keep costs and price down. However, and this is another detail minefield, 32670 (formally KESR Bodiam), is a vacuum only fitted loco and at some point (I guess when sold by the LBSCR) was vacuum fitted with a vacuum pipe on the left hand side of the buffer beam (as you look head on). 32655 (formally Stepney) which ended up as vacuum only fitted also appears to have this arrangement. It would also appear that post preservation, 32678 (formally Knowle), has had the brake pipe arrangement changed from that carried in SR / BR days. I'm sure that there are other variations of brake pipe arrangement and don't envy the manufacturers in getting every variation correct for their chosen prototypes. The fact remains (and this is my point) that there is a significant amount of pipework associated with the train brakes. This also makes the front and rear buffer beams look quite cluttered on the dual brake fitted locos. Both the Hornby and Rails models have their merits and omissions but I do tend to be swayed towards purchasing Rails models. Even with the issues regarding cab spectacles and the chimney (which are to be addressed) I think it captures the essence or a Terrier better than the Hornby model. I wish them luck with their enterprise. Regards Andy.
  6. I suppose better to be obsessed by rivets than nuts......... I will stop there....
  7. Ian, I agree that the smokebox wrapper front rivets are set too far back from the front, the Hornby A1X seems to get this right. Interestingly, following your post above I did a cursory "Google" for Terrier photos. The result was that some locos had / have a full circle of rivets and some have them stopping at the smokebox saddle: Preserved "Bodiam" on the KESR - cannot see a full circle of rivets i.e. finish at the saddle Preserved W8 on the IOW Railway - cannot see a full circle of rivets i.e. finish at the saddle (unclear though) Preserved 32678 - has a full circle of rivets More interestingly: Very clear colour and BW shots of 32636 (Fenchurch) in BR days - cannot see a full circle of rivets i.e. finish at the saddle. If this is the case then the Hornby model in incorrect. https://images.app.goo.gl/QN1SmkabyWTKfYhs6 https://images.app.goo.gl/5YPJJhipyamuki7L9 Click on the colour shot for a clearer version and a web page full of info, hopefully the links will work. Colour shot of 32650 at Hayling Island - has a full circle of rivets Couldn't find any clear photos of 32661's smokebox (modelled by Rails). I will have to check my books at home i.e. "Stroudley and his Terriers", "Island Terriers" and an Ian Allen published book whose title escapes me at present. I will admit, that until now, I'd always assumed that those locos that had rivets at the front of the smokebox wrapper had them in a complete circle i.e. beyond the saddle. Like I say, I'll check my books but this could be another detailing nightmare that manufacturers have had to deal with. How many detail variations do you tool for, where do you stop? I am now obsessed by rivets as well as tank top recesses!! Regards Andy.
  8. Hello You may also have found this out by now. There was also the Nocton Estates Light Railway that was located in Lincolnshire. It was primarily for the cultivation of potatoes, latterly owned by "Smiths" I believe. It used ex-WD rollingstock and modified 20hp Simplex (Motor Rail) petrol locomotives, I'm not sure if they were re-engined with diesel engines though. Steam power was tried in the early days but their weight and size was not suitable for the lightly laid tracks and soft ground conditions. Oakwood Press produced a book entitled "Lincolnshire Potato Railways" which was reprinted a number of years ago now but I think it's still available. Alternately "Google" Nocton Estates Light Railway. A good railway as a basis for an agricultural narrow gauge line with little infrastructure required. Some of the Bachmann 009 rollingstock is produced in Nocton Estates livery. There was also transhipment to standard gauge. Not sure if potatoes are cultivated in Somerset though, but with a little imagination they could be!! Andy.
  9. I agree with the assessment of the shape of the front guard irons, totally the wrong shape given the design drawings and photographic evidence as well as the surviving locomotives. Great looking models though and it's easy to be critical especially when there is little to be critical about. However, the locos are a minefield of detail differences, some of these are picked up on the Dapol model tread.
  10. I will still keep on voting for an NLR 1F tank as long as it's on the wishlist (78 votes)
  11. Thanks Alex and rembrow. I have also contacted Hattons where I have a pre-order for both. They have replied saying they are expected in stock any day now. Cheers Andy.
  12. Has anyone heard of a likely release date for 590 and Peggy? June is stated on a number of retailers websites. Just wondered if there's been any wispers of a later Month this year. Money is saved and put aside!! Cheers Andy.
  13. Hattons for one will be charging the additional 10%. Announced by them yesterday. No doubt other retailers will follow. I doubt it will push buyers to make thier purchases in Australia locally as even with the additional 10% buying from the UK is still significantly cheaper. The cynical me sees this as purely a money making exercise by the Government and not a scheme to increase domestic sales. Andy.
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