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A 20 or 25 would suit me fine, but I suspect you are wrong about Heljan being the manufacturer, I still suspect there's one if the current TT manufacturers watching, though I recon it'll be 2 or 3 years away.
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Agreed, but by that logic if Heljan had still gone ahead it's likely that Hornby would have backed down instead, it's the "Hornby were the bully" comments I was addressing, they weren't, it was simply a commercial choice by Heljan based on what the likelihood was they could get theirs out first and get the sales.
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13 hours ago, D9020 Nimbus said:
Hornby had an existing CAD to use as a basis, and they can move quickly to squash competition — see Terrier. It would have been folly to continue. There seemed to be co-ordination between Peco, Heljan and Gaugemaster; I wonder if Peco had concluded that Hornby were never going to introduce TT120, and had turned to Heljan to produce locos much as happened with the L&B range in 009.
It's on record (from SK and Peco have never denied it) that Peco and Hornby were completely unaware of each others plans for TT and only a chance conversation revealed their plans to each other. Heljan still produce stuff in 00, and have also produced a new loco despite Kato and Bachmann entering 009, so this rumour that Hornby deliberately went out of their way to quash any competition form Heljan doesn't ring true. Who knows what the manufacturers thought, but to be fair to Hornby they said publically that the range had been planned for 5 years (2017 was quoted) before launch and it'd be fairly certain that a stock list/line-up would have been done fairly early in that timescale to justify the investment. Heljan had the cad for the 31 so there was no reason for them not to do it other than their own reluctance following Hornby's announcement, to try to somehow blame Hornby is disingenuous at the very least, or is just pure Hornby bashing.
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38 minutes ago, e30ftw said:
LMS/BR LM
3f jinty-Can it share the j50 chassis? Not really.
Black 5 -Announced? Yes though after phase 4
8f Not announced
mogul or 0-6-0 - ideal if you could share chassis with other models with similar wheel base even if wheels need to be unique
GWR BR WR
Castle Phase 3/4
King Nothing
little tank engine - Panier After phase 3/4 but I suspect it'll be sooner
mogul or 0-6-0 - ideal if you could share chassis with other models with similar wheel base even if wheels need to be unique
SR
Bulied pacific Nothing but there's already a 3d print
Re Built Bulied Nothing
A popular tank engine N2? As above
Slam door EMU - Br green through to privatization, lots of people would have taken one in london/the south at some point in their life I doubt it would be a big seller so well donw the line - look for a 3d print though
BR
Britannia Announced after phase 3/4
9F would be very impressive in TT Phase 3/4
(5 or 4 MT) Not sure about sale figures for these Nothing
BR Diesel
20 Nothing
37- Anounced Yes, on 2nd April 12/18 months
47-Anounced? Catalogue - after phase 3/4
40 Nothing
60- To complement 66 as well as other BR Diesels, lots of livery's plus they have one in the 1:1 colection Catalogue after phase 3/4
DMU other than some modern stuff an 800 - nothing
Hard sell compared to more interesting Locomotives, if anything class 101 large geographic spread and a fair few livery's
Coaches
mk2s in the catalogue so should be next 12/18m
teak LNER phase 3/4 so probably 18/24m
BR surburban or LMS equivalent that could be used in BR era as well nothing
GWR coach to go with castle or tank engine catalogue pahse 3/4
Wagons - not sure, but Peco might and there's 3d prints
16t mineral
BR vacuum brake short wheel base van
HAA Coal wagon
5 and 7 plank generic steam age freight wagon
Brake down Crane
VGA wagon for late BR and modern use
Wild Cards - I doubt there's a cat in hells chance, and I suspect the market wouldn't warrant it, or the risk which would be large. (I'd rather they just stuck with British stuff as well).
Union Pacific Big Boy- A lot of people would buy for the novelty in UK and Europe, largest steam loco in the world
Union Pacific Centennial - Probably less popular than a BIG Boy but the largest Diesel loco in the world
The above based on the original catalogue and things we've seen since, timescales purely guesswork!!
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25 minutes ago, frobisher said:
That's somewhat unfair. Heljan's release of intensions was based on the knowledge a big player was entering the UK scene in the scale. What they didn't expect was every model announced suddenly being in Hornby's own intensions at range launch, and Hornby's announced price points being quite a bit lower than theirs. Of course, had they known how delayed Hornby would have become with their 31 they should have continued and funded with the results of the next week's lottery numbers that they'd have already had...
What other stuff had they announced? I only heard of the 31, a link would be helpful.
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16 minutes ago, Roy L S said:
It is after all still early days just yet...
I could reply to yours in a similarly long winded way, but there's no need as you said it all in that one sentence.
We shall see.
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You know what I meant! They'd prosecute the owners or the drivers for non compliance.
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How about České Budějovice and around? It's a shame that the JHMD is still moribund but there's that 1500vDC branch line of the line south from Prague if you want to see something different. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tábor–Bechyně_railway
Plus you are on the border with Austria.
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23 minutes ago, Roy L S said:
In terms of locos and rolling stock I don't think I would be bold enough to say "more brand new models than any other manufacturer in any scale" and I don't think that's correct, in fact the volume of releases thus far has been comparatively slow
Aside from Peco who have dipped a toe in the water with some track (which arguably has a global market), lineside models and buildings (and a single British wagon) nobody else has committed to producing anything for the British market, and from my conversations with some manufacturers they don't actually seem that interested. This makes Hornby's job in establishing the scale all the more difficult and it is going to take more time than was initially suggested.
With regards the first paragraph, it's difficult to compare, but compared to the launch of TT3 and early British N gauge he's right, they have launched more variety in a much shorter space of time, and especially compared with some of the early British N gauge models, and of much better quality. It's a difficult one to judge as there isn't really anything to directly compare it to, though, as manufacturing was very different back in the 50s and 60s, and expectations from enthusiasts much lower than today.
With regards to the second paragraph, I ask you "Which Manufacturers are you referring to?". There's an awful lot of TT120 stuff out there produced by the cottage industry manufacturers. Granted some others are waiting to see if it's worthwhile but I'd expect some of them to start producing in the next 12 months. Contrary to your conversations the ones I've spoken to at shows are planning stuff and are positive, others are in the "wait and see" mode which is what I'd expect this early in the launch. However if you look at what's available now it's already quite easy to furnish a British layout in TT with suitable buildings and accessories, in fact the only building I don't have is a suitable signal box for a NW England based layout, the rest of the buildings I have.
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A quick look on a google search shows a trucker satnav for just under £200, even on low wages that'd hardly break the bank, especially considering the trucker could potentially lose their licence for a bridge bash or at the very least get the sack and become unemployable. Plenty of other low wage jobs require decent tools and part of the job is to make sure you have them. Perhaps the only way is to make it compulsory for trucks to have that version and be prosecuted for using a car version?
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You can still get rollover jigs which put the car (safely!) on it's side.
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Could that J50 chassis be used for anything else? It seems to have a strange wheelbase.
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1 minute ago, Porfuera said:
That was slightly underwhelming considering the buildup.
That's Social Media for you! ;)
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Going onto the subject itself, though, why do I have the feeling that's 15 minutes of my life wasted? Surely they could have done some more such as estimated launch times for future (already announced) models?
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Does it really matter, he was clear and easily understood, that's his job.
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1 hour ago, Porfuera said:
Or maybe they're just trying to generate some extra excitement for tomorrow's announcements 😂
There's enough of that already on FB!! 🤣
Picked up my first piece of TT120 at a toyfair this morning, a Peco open wagon! There was some BTTB and TT3 around as well but nothing of interest, though the BTTB reasonably priced.
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Well if Liverpool don't win the Prem this year they really don't deserve it, the other two have given it on a plate to them.
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At last! We got Trixie back on October 2022, a rescue cat, she was very shy and still is. You may remember that we couldn't get her to use the catflap to get into the back garden. In September last year we went out, leaving her outside and came back to find her inside, since then she's always come back in on her own but still wouldn't go out!
Last night we were watching TV and heard the catflap, funny, we thought, she was inside. So I went to the window and there she was, outside! Last night I had to push her through again but this morning she's been out twice on her own volition.
Here's hoping... Its been a long road...
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Blimey, that's going back a bit! I wish we'd kept it now they've shot up in price and we'd get several thousand for it now!
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1 hour ago, Michanglais said:
Random question:
I use Tillig radius 396mm curves. Could anyone tell me what that is equivalent to in terms of R1, R2, R3, R4 in the Hornby range?
Cheers,
Michael
Hi Michael, a quick search of the Hornby shop answers your question. Its R4.
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Anyone mentioned SAS: Red Notice yet? Another showing the Channel Tunnel entrance as bereft of OHLE but had some inside the tunnel, though at least they changed the name of the train to Eurostream! If you're thinking of watching it, don't bother, IMDB's 5 rating is about right! Not as bad as Bullet Train (2022) though.
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Surely you'd be better with a purpose built power bogie like Halling?
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33 minutes ago, teletougos said:
What wheelbase measurement (in millimetres) enables most models from the same chassis ?
Will their drive be likely to feature a worm going to centre axle, then rods to power front and rear axle? Or is that more an N thing ?
There are several that have similar wheelbases/wheel diameters, but that question leads onto whether modellers are willing to accept the small discrepancies caused by doing a "one size fits all" chassis. Back in the 50s Triang did it in both TT3 and 00 without many complaints but these days? I suspect that most people would accept a compromise of a mm or so but there will be a small, but vocal, minority who will try to tear Hornby to pieces for even dare thinking of doing such a thing!
I'd expect any 0-6-0Ts to be the same as the 08 which is centre axle driven.
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Czech Railways
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Rob, how long ago was that re the model shop? We went in around 2019 and there was only one, and it had little, if any, railways. There used to be one down a little alley which was really good but that had shut up shop a few years before the 2019 visit. TBH model railway shops are becoming fewer and fewer, as opposed to model shops which tend to concentrate on the East European fixation with anything military.