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Dear all, another update on the work. I prepared and placed the front air reservoirs: the vessels has been made on the late, and the their supports milled starting from a 6x6 mm square brass profile. I've seen there are other two small air reservoir that will be placed later after painting, since they are very close to the front screws. I don't have any dimensions so i've done by eye: i hope to get a quite good appearance. I've also added the rear ladders and related support. Working on this side of the machine i discovered that the side frames are different from the real machine. I'm not able to rebuild this part so i have to close an eye. I've applied the buffers and took a couple of pictures, just to see the proportions and to check if the model recall the real machine... That's all for the moment Best regards A

Hello. Now that i'm back on the workbench i finally understood the problem of the wheel diameter. The real diameters are 1370 (nominal) down to 1290 at the end of their life. That means that in H0 gauge we should have 15.75 to 14.82 mm. The wheels of the Roco model have a diameter of 14.4 mm. 😐 What to say? Not too much, because, yeah, the wheels are too little compared to the nominal diameter. Making reference to a wheel tyre at "the end of his life", they are little again... But i don't wanna touch the wheels...too much work. Anyway, thank you for the advice. Antonio P.S.1.: any comments about mistakes i've done are very welcomed. I'm here to learn. P.S.2.: sorry if my English is not perfect

Thank you for the replies. If i understood correctly, the nominal wheel diameter for a Class 10 is 1370 mm. Which is the minimum diameter before tyre change? In Italy (and maybe under UIC ), without considering specific cases, the tyre are periodically turned down by 80 mm max. So the minimum diameter should be 1290 mm. Am I right?

Hello. Thank you for just reading and for the comment. Last step, i built the front ladder. They has been made from a couple of spare ladder of an hold project and some brass sheet trimmed at the (i think - i do not have drawings) right dimensions. Regards Antonio

Hello again. I spent some hours to create a new back head, put it into place, and make the holes for the lights. The same lights has been made on the milling machine: i choose to do them 1,1x2,1 mm, with a 0,8 mm bore for the lighting. They seems ok at my eyes. During the operation i damaged the left side ventilation (?) openings: after several trial and errors, i was able to create them again at the milling machine. I've also milled the metallic frame, to create some space for the several components of the decoder sound with stay alive. And moreover, i removed the plastic support of the NEM couplings, and applied two small brass rectangles where solder the missing details: air reservoir and ladder on the front, brake cilinder on the back. I've also added the left to right links on the braking gears. Ok, that's all for the moment. Best regards and Happy Easter Antonio

Hello all. Another step ahead: using nickel silver sheet (0.2 mm thickness), i prepared the new front and back of the loco, adding the first details. The front, has been made by hand, since it is quite simple. For the back, i used the milling machine to open the rear windows and milling the window frames. Regards Antonio

I have to say that i've opened this topic because basically i'm not an expert on this locomotive. So the idea is to share the work in progress to check with your help any errors i could make. So thank you in advance for reading and commenting. First question i have is: which are the dimensions of the traditional BR style headlight? The Ioco arrived in Italy seems to have the original lights on the lower side, a new lamp (industrial?) on the top. I surf on the internet, saved several pictures of the real thing. I made an hypothesis about the real dimensions of the headlight, but i would be great to anybody could point me in the right direction. Thanks again Antonio

Hello all. I'm Antonio from Trieste, Italy. I would like to write some notes about the 1:87 scale model of an English machine that arrived in Italy in the early 70s. Based on the information available, only one BR Class 10 locomotive has arrived in Italy, and its serial number is still uncertain. The website "The Railways Correspondence and Travel Society" has a page called "Diesel Dilemmas" and sets out the events of our Class 10 after its decommissioning from the British Railways locomotive fleet: the article is available at the following link, but the exact serial number of the Class 10 in question is uncertain The Attilio Rossi Ex BRs D2231 and 13xxx-D3xxx – Railway Correspondence & Travel Society (rcts.org.uk) The BR Class 08 and 10 have been widely reproduced by several British model houses, but in 00 1:76 scale. To model it in 1:87 I had to look elsewhere, keeping in mind that the locomotives of classes 08 and 10 were also exported to Holland, creating the NS 500 and 600 groups. It was precisely this aspect that helped me in the creation of the model: in fact, instead of starting from a correct model in 1:76 scale available on the English market, I used as a base the model of an NS 500 reproduced by Roco, in 1:87 scale, modifying some details. The model that is the subject of this article is therefore the one relating to the Class 10 locomotive, set in 1974. The Roco model from which I started, bought used and rather shabby, is analogue, has the engine placed horizontally inside the bonnet, metal frame electrically connected to a rail, front and rear lighting by light bulbs. The gears drive the third axle, and through the coupling rods outside the frame guarantees traction on all three axles. There are no tyres and power sockets are on all wheels. The final model will have, in addition to the aesthetic changes, a sound decoder with original sounds, stay alive, LED lighting. The starting point: Regards Antonio

Hello. If you give me an email I can give you the fonts and all the other details you need to complete the two vans Regards Antonio

Hello. I found this thread and I would like to add some info/link for whom want to see something more on the Italian railways. http://www.photorail.it biggest Italian site on F.S. with old and actual pictures http://www.stagniweb.it another site with pictures and lot of info (also in english) https://www.archiviofondazionefs.it/Gli_Orari_Ufficiali timetables, pictures, drawings directly from F.S. archives http://gamos81.altervista.org all the Italian models from the main producers. (only in Italian but I think it is quite easy to understand) Cheers Antonio

Hi Geraint. Thank you very much for your kind reply. I understood how your w irons works. Yes, the idea is quite the same. Honestly I think that your one is the best cause there are the pin point that are the optimum for a smooth running. Thanks again and best regards. Antonio

Hello Geraint. First of all all my compliments For the Great models and lovely pictures. Which kind of "normal suspension parts" have you added to the Italeri F van? Have you used some commercial parts or etching made by yourself? I've done my one etching for the same purpose: an F van in P87 from tTM kit (equal to Italeri), but I'm curious to understand what have you done (if it is possible). Best regards Antonio