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  1. One of the shows where I regularly demonstrate have already told me that they think the school where they hold their exhibition will not be allowing them in during 2021 for similar reasons.
  2. Bother. We're fixing to move house and having a clear out. I looked at my Bergen* and decided I wouldn't need it again so I sent it to the local charity shop just before lockdown happened. Looks like I'll need to go and buy it back... *military name for a very large tardis like rucksack capable of concealing a 1/2 ton land rover
  3. I've done a show in a marquee - the Gaugemaster event at Ford - and would agree, plus Gaugemaster paid an absolute arm and leg in order to have active security in each of their marquees overnight each day.
  4. Reading this comment from David (which together with the news that one of the pubs that has had to close again because someone tested positive is less than 5 miles from our venue) has suddenly bought the enormity of the mountain home to me. About 5 years ago we went over to using Tyvek wristbands for ticketing because it made life so much easier for both us and the leisure centre (who do our box office function for us). Most people happily comply with the "please put it on" rule; there is the odd unfortunate soul who couldn't comply because their wrists we too thick, but then there is a real hard-core of "you have no right to ask me to do that", and dealing with that worries me. And then there's the whole "administration" and GDPR thing. What do you do if someone causes a scene at the pay desk by refusing to fill the details in? Or clearly scribbles a nonsense entry? We would have no "powers" to enforce. We have a footfall north of 3000 at Fareham RailEx, the first couple of hours on Saturday generally sees around 500 through the door, dealing with that, and the "no right" brigade, we would need an army of clerks to enforce the collection of data. Our survey forms regularly see a return rate of about 15%, and that's with an army of stewards to "cajole" people into filling them in. And then what happens if - as in the case of the pub in Alverstoke - you get a "positive" on someone who was in that early Saturday scrum? Who is going to do the follow up? I think the idea is that this is handed over to the official "Track and Trace" team but I get the impression that some of the Pubs that got in to trouble at the weekend have been told to "do it themselves". Who wants that mountain of work at short notice? No, I think we've done the right thing to cancel and I am reluctantly coming to the conclusion that some of the doomsayers here might actually be right... Elliott
  5. Sorry, thought I had made it clear, we did Wickham RailEx and now do Fareham RailEx. We never went with just "Railex" which does indeed belong to the guys at Stoke Mandeville - and note that we use different capitalisation in the word. AND: there are several other groups using that word as well.
  6. When we first started to place display ads we did a lot of heart searching, several members (including a senior committee member) commented that they never looked at the display ads, only at the free listings and that therefore it was a waste of money. The reality is that we think it did produce a boost of footfall. The "advice" we got from people who understood "marketing" was that if you place a well produced display ad with appropriate superlatives sprinkled on it it says that you have confidence in the quality of your event, sufficient confidence to warrant paying to advertise it in that way; that in turn means that it might be worth visiting. The first year it will not produce much uplift but if it was a good show then word will get around and if you take the care to create a "recognisable brand" then in year 3 or 4 and beyond you will start to reap the benefit of your investment. And the term "recognisable brand"? Geoff Endacott once said to me that he thought the most important thing he had done with his show was to come up with the simple one-word name - Trainwest; that is a very recognisable brand and in a sense we have done the same by focussing on the term RailEx - first Wickham RailEx and now Fareham RailEx. The first event at Wickham was organised in partnership with the Wessex Association and we viewed it as a proof of concept event, our first one away from the old TA Drill hall in Fareham. For the second one we came up with the RailEx brand and I produced a display ad and flyers that had a watermarked Wickham Trolley on them; there was a definite up-swing in the tempo of the show. Year 5, 1100 on the Saturday, and I was seriously worried that we might have to close the gate because of the crowding in the hall. From there it has just been onwards and upwards.
  7. Thanks Chris. Much as most of us dislike contributing to the Mark Zuckerberg retirement fund, you're right, it does have a part to play. Having referred to "upping our game on social media" in my last contribution I thought it might be worth sharing what we actually did. We looked at our exhibitors and traders to see who had a presence for their layout or business on Twitter and Facebook, and more importantly here on RM Web, and then we looked to engage in their conversations, linking back to details of what else was attending the show. It was quite complicated to fit together so that it didn't become obtrusive in other people's conversations BUT we did get feedback that it had brought a goodly number of extra feet to our door, so it was worth the effort and it certainly raised our profile. We were planning to do the same this year. Oh well... The real problem is do we put the display ads out in the mags with a rider saying words to the effect of "please check with the Club website the weekend before for confirmation of whether the show is going ahead. My view is "yes" but a lot of my colleagues are understandably not comfortable with that idea.
  8. I'm grappling with this at the moment Chris and you have no idea how difficult a decision it is. Fareham Railex 2020 (a 30-ish layout, 25-ish trader show in around 10,000 sq ft sports hall + demos over two squash courts booked for the first weekend in October, turnover in excess of £10k) has already cost the Fareham Club in the region of £3000 for accomodation (booked in December) which we potentially have to write off. We have already printed (but failed to distribute due to lockdown) about 10,000 flyers at a cost I can't remember (but it wasn't a trivial amount). These were printed BEFORE last year's event. The current taxing question is display ads in the magazines and the ticker-tape ads here on RM Web. From memory, last year we spent well over £1500 and were planning to go closer to £2000 by taking on another more specialist mag because we have a couple of really good quality layouts booked that have featured in it in the last year. We also extensively use roadside banners to attract the local clientele. Annual maintenance costs (changing dates and so on) around £500. We would have already done this in normal circumstances in order to have it completed before the world goes on summer leave in August - the time we normally start deploying them. Running total £5000 expenditure before you start to think about the commemorative wagon we normally produce each year (don't ask the cost of that). AND: We don't normally pay the venue deposit until August. Our exit poll tells us that we DO have regular visitors travelling from East Anglia and the Midlands to visit the show (the same Kings Lynn, Oxford & Birmingham postcodes turn up every year). Another problem: The venue (local leisure centre) is currently on furlough. Initially they had a skeleton staff in place and we had people to talk to, now they are completely shut, phones go unanswered and emails get the out-of-office "we are closed until further notice" message so we have no idea of how we stand if we cancel now - will it damage our future relationship with them? Current "what ifs" are: do we write off the £3k accommodation spend and draw stumps now? do we commit the next £2k for advertising now? what happens if we don't do the serious long-distance magazine based advertising and press on with local advertising only? what happens if we don't get the requisite two-and-a-bit thousand paying punters through the door? What happens if an arbitrary limit of say 200 people in the venue at a time is introduced? We typically sell 500 tickets in the first hour so that's a major problem... Last year we lost the plot with the "due diligence" on the expenses bill because of some significant unexpected costs we didn't find out about until August and four of us agreed that if push came to shove we would dip our hands into our own pockets to the tune of up to a grand each to bail the Club out. We upped the game with the advertising on social media and we managed to turn the predicted loss into an equally sized surplus (note: NOT profit). The Club is a Charitable Incorporated Organisation (CIO). As a CIO Trustee I have a duty to keep the expenditure in check and I can be hauled over the coals by the Charity Commission if I don't (legal sanctions are possible). On the other side of that coin, we were encouraged by our landlord (the local council) to apply for the Business Rate Support Grant from the Government. I note that in the thread on that topic here on RM Web a couple of clubs were slated for taking it up, I look at it from the point of view that we've been given a lifeline of £10k that could enable us to take a punt on pressing on in the hope that we can in fact hold our exhibition but if it does fail at the last minute we won't - overall - be having to dip into our own pockets this year. These are the realities of trying to organise a reasonably sized show in the current climate and I hope explains why shows into October and November are already cancelling. For the record, the 2020 Fareham RailEx is under review but currently still "on".
  9. Doing a lot of event management-type stuff professionally (as a medic at music festivals as well as at model railway exhibitions), and having crewed as a guest steward for Warley, I can tell you that there is a very good reason for having what appears to be that redundant extra back space in Hall 5. The Packdown Phase particularly just wouldn't work without it.
  10. In what is most definitely the last episode of this story I’m going to talk about what happened in my last 4 months working in the US, but first a quick recap of the modelling scene in the US. Firstly, remember, there are virtually no clubs as we would recognise them, at least around Washington DC. OK, I did eventually find one near where we lived, it was based in the Station House at Vienna, Virginia; they had built a multilevel layout in H0 inside the building; they held open houses about once a month where they operated the layout for members of the public. I visited it maybe half a dozen times and whilst marvelling at the layout I don’t think was really railway modelling as we would recognise it, it seemed to run more along the lines of a minor tourist attraction. This Google Street View shows the station building and the camera is sitting on the course of the old Washington & Old Dominion Railway. Roughly where the cycle can be seen there was a caboose which Alec and myself used to climb up into. There is nothing here I can see to say if the group is still going and because street view hasn’t ventured down the cycleway on the old railway we can’t see the front of the building to read any notices; that said, the building does look well cared for and is clearly maintained in the style of an old American station. Back to the mainstream: Most of the people I met in the model railroading scene either had a basement layout or they operated one for someone else. If you were a member of the National Model Railroad Association or NMRA then your local Chapter would organise a Home Layout Tour each winter season where you could go and visit layouts that were normally closed to the public. The other sort of modelling, also largely sponsored through the NMRA at the time, was modular modelling, on the N Gauge side the standard and whole modular movement was known as N-Track. As I had fallen into the N Gauge world through my association with Peter and the CORy I did get to go to one of the regular N-Track modular meets; they got together on one Sunday afternoon/evening a month in a school not far from where we were living in Burke, VA. They would meet at about 3PM, assemble their modules for about an hour, run trains and socialise until about 8PM, spend an hour packing up and then go home until next month. As I didn’t have a module, was only a transitory visitor (so had no intention of building one) and had no stock to run I didn’t really fit the profile that they wanted as a member – if I remember correctly the rules actually said you had to bring a module if you attended more than twice although I think that was more to allow them to regulate membership rather than a hard and fast rule. So, back to the story. In the summer of 1996 the Annual National N Track Convention was due to come to Washington DC., well Alexandria actually, and as a part of that gathering there was to be a home layout tour which Peter managed to become a part of. What happened next is a bit of a mystery, but one Friday in January he announced that this would be the last operating session for a while as starting the next week we were going to be converting the layout to DCC. It seems that what he had done was managed to negotiate a deal with one of the big DCC suppliers that if he was on the Home Layout Tour he could DCC the layout at a fraction of the retail cost, but that layout had to be fully operational in DCC mode by the weekend of the N-Track Convention and if it wasn’t you had to pay full price. Remember: this was 1996 and DCC was very “new” so this was an early advertising ploy for the suppliers. The next week all hell broke loose, we separated all the boards and removed anything that wasn’t firmly attached to the layout. Next, one board at a time, we upended the board so that we could work on both the sceniced surface and underside at the same time, and the rewire commenced. To understand what we were doing we need a quick revisit to what I described as “necessary actions to move a train” in the main part of the narrative. As built, the layout was wired for Cab Control. I think everyone knows that Cab Control means that if you have more than one controller it is possible select which controller has control of a particular section of the layout by selecting the appropriate “Cab” by a switch. Traditionally on a UK layout you would find two, or at the most three, cabs. In the case of the CORy there were – I seem to remember – six, yes six cabs. The selection of a particular cab was by the use of a rotary switch and a toggle switch; you flicked the toggle switch “off”, turned the rotary switch to the cab you were working on and then flicked the toggle switch back on. What the toggle switch did was to disconnect the output of the rotary switch from the layout, if you didn’t use the toggle switch first as the rotary switch was turned if it connected to a cab that was “live” from being used elsewhere on the layout there was a real risk that you would suddenly find trains lurching unexpectedly back or forward under momentary control of someone else. Now, Peter’s “user requirement” was that if this didn’t work we needed to be able to roll back to analogue operation fairly instantly. The problem he had was that with six cabs – all of which were used in the general operation of the layout – and a rotary switch that was only able to support 6 inputs – it wasn’t possible to do the blindingly obvious “thing” of simply wiring one of the cabs to the DCC system and then sitting back and playing trains again; no, we had to do a complete rewire with a parallel system. Step one on each board was to insert a completely new set of droppers, one to each piece of rail on the board. This is where I learnt to fold up a neat piece of solid wire and solder it to the web of a piece of rail. I’m not sure what size of wire we used (it was an American Wire Gauge single conductor after all) but we had to put a new dropper on every single piece of rail on each baseboard, these dropper wires were all led back to the control panel for that area of the layout. At the same time we created a “bus” of wires which we braided together along each baseboard, roughly following the course of the line. This bus consisted of six wires, the two DCC track wires, and a 16V AC and a 12V DC accessory supply. Next we… Well, I’m not quite sure what happened next because I got temporarily seconded to an organisation in New Orleans, LA, for a couple of weeks (which actually took me out of circulation for nearly a month of Friday meets) and when I got back the control panels were in the process of being disconnected and coupled up to the new wiring loom. The way this was being done was to cut the old wiring loom between each control panel and the layout and insert a plug and socket into it – so that it could be disconnected or reconnected as required. A new wiring loom had been created on each panel duplicating the point controls and providing a couple of sockets for the DCC handsets, this was connected through to all the new droppers (but not through the section switching on the panels) and the bus from the base unit and power supply. I probably haven’t explained that very well, it sounds horrendously complicated but the effect of the way it was done meant that you could operate the layout as an analogue system, power it down and unplug all the control panels from the layout, and then plug in the other set of connections between panels and layout, power up the DCC system and off we go… Unfortunately the way work was going for me at that point effectively took me out of the loop for a good couple of months (we were now into May and I was returning to the UK in mid-July), I was on a horrendous roundabout of meetings and trips away whilst trying to make sure my relief was inducted into a different part of the USN organisation from the one I was working for, and simultaneously transferring the function of my department to a different organisation in New Orleans. And you thought the British Government was convoluted… Of course, Peter also had the problem of converting all the locos to DCC as well. This he had for the most part completed the last time I visited him in the latter part of June before we left in mid-July. Don’t forget, this was before the dawn of the current genre of chips with 6, 8, 18 or 21 pin chips; no, to chip a loco you had to cut wires and solder new connections – and don’t forget, this was being done in N Gauge with US outline locomotives. On that visit the layout had just become operational in its new DCC guise and I got to at least run trains up and down on the line even if I didn’t get to do a proper operating session. And that was my experience of converting a layout to DCC. It probably wasn’t a good example of how to do it and I have to say that to this day it has coloured my view of DCC. Have you ever asked me what I think of DCC? My answer will almost certainly have been “Never let anyone tell you that it is just 2 wires, it isn’t”; now you can see why. And converting locos? Well, as I’ve just pointed out this was the very early days, no “plug-in” chips, everything on a wiring loom that had to be trimmed and soldered on in a very confined space and the body refitted without destroying the detailing; and, of course, the chips were somewhat less reliable than they are today. One of the reasons I give of fighting shy of converting my stock is that I do have a couple of kit-builds that utilise Black Beetle (or similar) bogies that actually site the motor inside the bogie in a supposedly “sealed for life” unit; I have met a DCC supplier who has offered to chip one of these for me – at a cost which I have chosen to ignore. So there we are, a quick canter through my experiences as an American modeller. I hope you have found it informative – and hopefully inspiring. I have had some feedback which suggests that there are a number of members of the Fareham Club who would be interested in looking at some more “formal” operating sessions when the world gets back to some sort of normality. My Work here is done I think, writing a blog has been an interesting experience and I'm now actively thinking about how we could use it to contribute to the Club's communications strategy in the future.
  11. Don't be fooled! The Common Cold Research Unit at Porton Down is not what it seems...
  12. Absolutely the correct way to do it!
  13. Hi Dave. This google search shows a number of pictures of Barry Slips, both real and model. With the exception of the photo of someone whose name happens to be Barry Slip, most of them are either here on RM Web or on Martyn Wynn's Templot site. I have been on the Missenden Modellers Weekends for both Track Building and Templot and I have produced a template for one of these formations in both Templot and Trax. All I need now is for the rest of my life to subside so I can sit down and make one up... Cheers Elliott
  14. Anyone who has had to work with me closely in any capacity will know that I tend towards having bright ideas, tossing the hand grenade into the conversation and then sitting back and watching things develop. Indeed, at one point when I was working for the US Navy I went into the office one morning and said to my team “I had a really neat idea on the train on the way in” – and they all scarpered, every single one of them. Oh well! INCOMMING! Now, I must prefix this post by stating very publicly and VERY LOUDLY that I am playing Devil’s Advocate here. In some ways we are getting a little stagnant in what we do. We have just made a significant leap forward in securing the future of the Club in the form of gaining our CIO status so perhaps now might be a good time to review where we are and what we are doing. I am going to float ideas in this post, they are not necessarily views I hold, they are only intended to provoke thought and discussion when we escape this confinement. So, the starting point for this post has to be to review the layouts we have in the Club and I’m going to concentrate on the 00 gauge ones – to attempt what I am thinking about in 0 Gauge would require, well, a warehouse; equally, I don’t believe we have enough N Gauge modellers to make it work in that scale either. We have: Soberton built in 1997/8 and a menace to take to an exhibition (I designed it so I can say it), given several new leases of life over the years; a big layout that doesn’t get out much because not many exhibitions can accommodate a layout of that size. Forleigh, original build date unknown, donated to the Club when Fawley Power Station MRC closed, big layout, not easy to transport and exhibit, doesn’t get out much for the same reasons as Soberton. Nictun Borrud “converted” around the same time as Soberton. Used to get out quite a lot but is now becoming “old hat” on the exhibition circuit. Gosport. This is a special project so I am going to skirt neatly past the subject. Fareport Wharf, new, a different concept of layout, approaching completion. Bramley Oak has gone, again a big layout which was only ever exhibited once. Ditto Mislingford which was only ever shown as a work-in-progress. Children’s Corner is deliberately excluded from consideration here as although it does visit exhibitions it doesn’t really count as an exhibitable layout in the accepted sense. So, we have three 00 Gauge layouts that in my view are life expired (Soberton, Forleigh and NB), all of which have done their time on the exhibition circuit, we have Fareport Wharf which is approaching its debut and we also have Fairhaven Town (0 Gauge and easily portable) which has scope to showcase the Club’s work, but currently not the active manpower able to exhibit it. Also, thinking about invites to other exhibitions: aside from both Nictuns at Warley – supposedly next year but that has to be in doubt in the current climate – NB to Bristol and our pledge to help Victory MRC out of the situation they find themselves in with their exhibition, we don’t have any outstanding invites; plus Soberton and Forleigh have both reached their pinnacle, they have been to Warley and several of the other national shows, in fact the only big show we have yet to break into is York. No, with our current portfolio of layouts we’ve been everywhere we are likely to go and done everything we are likely to be invited to do; if we want to maintain our “presence” in the hobby locally with other Clubs I think we need to start to refresh ourselves, I think the time has come – we need to review our layout portfolio, at least in the 00 arena. We also have a major problem, the Elephant in the Room so-to-speak: SPACE. Nictun Borrud isn’t too bad in that it stacks into two pods plus a few extra bits, but both Soberton and Forleigh are monsters; Soberton’s support system was very much a product of its time: at Fareham Community Centre we only had the portacabin as our Clubroom in the car park. It was designed to go from flat pack into a workbench system and back to flat pack in the blink of an eye, a real boon in those days, but now it’s a nightmare to store. And Forleigh? I understand it was originally built as a static layout, in converting it into a portable one we have made a rod for our own back; end boards that are 8’ long and 2’6”+ wide, they are a minimum 4-man lift (but preferably 5 or 6) and present another nightmare. PLUS: I don’t know if anyone else has noticed but those end boards flex in the middle when lifted, this is because they weren’t originally designed (or constructed) to be that long. In converting the layout we bolted what was originally two boards at each end together to make one in order to get the uninterrupted scenery on the top BUT in doing this what we should have done was to introduce support members underneath that run the full length of the boards (or at least bridge the gap by a couple of feet either side of the join). Result: in my view there is a very real risk that one day we will lift them and one of them (probably the farm end) is going to suffer a major structural failure resulting in the board trying to fold in half. Thanks to Derek we have attained our CIO status, thus assuring the long-term stability of the Club, but this has come with a certain amount of responsibility if we are to truly act out our charitable purpose. We are an educational charity and we have said that (among other things) we support the hobby locally by providing layouts and demonstrations to other club’s exhibitions, BUT we also need to look to what we do as a Club on meeting nights. In other words, we need to provide something for people to do on Club nights beyond drinking tea, eating biscuits and reflecting on past glories. Sorry, tough decisions are needed. But if we dump our older and bigger layouts what do we replace them with? As a starter for 10, here are my thoughts on the sort of layouts that show managers like these days, the sort of layouts that are likely to get invited out, and coincidentally the sort of layouts that are easy to store when not in use: layouts like Fareport Wharf and Nictun Borrud (and Geoff’s Nictun 2000 – although that is technically not a Club layout). The basic formula seems to be about 16’ to 20’ long, (about 12’ of scenery) either a terminus to fiddle yard or through station with two fiddle yards – not roundy-roundy layouts because the depth of the ends means that they tend to stick out too far into the hall; number of operators is also an issue – the Nictuns can be worked by 2 or 3 operators, Forleigh needs at least 6, Soberton at least 8. Now, if we were to dump those two big layouts (frees up valuable storage) in favour of building – say – six newer, smaller layouts that would get us back into the exhibition circuit, it would keep the Club’s profile where it should be in order to allow us to attract other clubs to participate in our exhibition, our main fundraiser of the year. OK, I realise that not everyone is interested in going on the exhibition circuit but with a handful of new layouts those of us who enjoy that side of the hobby would be able to carry on promoting the Club. So, my thought process turns to what goes on in the Club; with a handful of smaller layouts we could have more of them up in the Clubroom at the same time, there would be more for people to do on a club night and if we were to do something similar to the arrangement that we have done in the past with Soberton and Nictun Borrud we could actually link layouts together as shown in the following picture. This would allow us to have more interesting operating sessions, remember, this story is supposed to be about recreating my experience of the CORy here in England. Yes, this fits in the Clubroom! With a bit of creative manipulation (and discipline) there would be room to keep the recently shrunken Corhampton (N) and Fairhaven Town (0) up as well. This arrangement would be made up of the six layouts shown in the next picture plus the extra components shown, that’s two single track triangular junctions and a couple of sceniced corner units. Fiddle yards for these layouts when used individually could be “traditional”, cassettes (my preference), sector plates or even turntables for the through stations; in fact, there’s no reason why fiddle yards couldn’t be shared between layouts chosen to the preference of the person who will be operating them. AND: These don’t all have to be Club layouts! Geoff has already proved that a personal layout can very successfully be displayed under the Club banner with Nictun 2000. Ok, there is a potential problem: talking to another club with “Charitable Status”, during their “set up process” they were picked up by a community adviser because they were storing a number of member’s layouts in their clubrooms plus several members were abusing their use of Club facilities. It was resolved, there was a big argument about something called “deriving benefit” and they had to revise the way they were working. We would have to be careful, but I’m sure we could work out a way to get members to build layouts that could be included in this system. For example, I would happily build “Layout 1” from this system, I have a plan for a Swanage-esque terminus with a small goods yard which could easily be incorporated. Anyone else? My design for the fiddle yard for the “joint” layout is set up with two banks of sidings, one bank for passenger stock and one for freight with plenty of scope for locomotive changes. The suggestion is that we limit trains to 3 or 4 coach rakes, or an equivalent length of goods train, and we have properly structured “operation sessions” where trains traverse all of the layouts during an operating session. Note about this diagram: It is a Trax track building template (much reduced in size). The intention is that the ladders on each side would be either slips or more likely so-called Barry Slips like the one show below which would give loco (or wagon) stabling roads at each end of the fiddle yard. The problem with ordinary slip points is that they are expensive to both buy and make, Barry Slips are simply two interlaced points and although I haven't built one yet I reckon it should be possible to knock one out in a couple of evenings, they are simply "two points". Credit for this photo Mark Grady who sent it to me in an attempt to confuse me... Once this enforced suspension of our group hobby is lifted and we are able to meet again the Club will have to have its postponed AGM – should be happening in May or June but who knows when it will actually take place – and there will be a lot to discuss by way of understanding the new structure we are working within. We also need to decide where we are going in terms of Club activity. This is my “Starter for 10” and is very much intended to provoke discussion rather than to be a proscriptive way forward. Over to you. Discuss… Oh, and the intention is that we DO NOT have to do this all at once, I see it as something that is going to take a number of years to come fully to fruition. POST SCRIPT 1: A number of you will know that I have designs on building a new home layout that depicts a terminus station set somewhere on the Gosport Peninsula, writing and reviewing this blog has helped me to crystallise in my mind how I could work the freight operations for it, so a big thank you to everyone who encouraged me to record my experiences in the US. POST SCRIPT 2: Oh, and I lied. This isn’t going to be the last post in this blog after all. In finalising this episode I realised that there was another part of the story that would be worth telling – the control system and our efforts to convert it to DCC. As I haven’t started that yet it is unlikely that it will be published a week or so after this one, just give me time…
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