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  1. Oh yes, very nice! Thanks for sharing Paul. Martyn.
  2. Must admit I would be tempted to do one of the Slater's brake kits if I stumble on a cheap one. There is a photo in the book of the grounded one converted to a garage/shed, as well as 2 or 3 photos of them when still in use, as well as the grounded box van (ex GC again istr) used as a store on the platform at Dunnington (later moved next to the Grain Dryers building where it lasted until the 80s. Re lettering on stock, certainly in later years they seem to have gone for the minimalist to non existent approach, very handy for us modellers!
  3. Thanks John, the DVLR book shown earlier does give a brief history of the wagons (as well as coaches and Locos), which includes how many of each type were owned at various times; I'm on holiday this week so don't have it to hand, but their own stock does seem mainly to have been open and cattle trucks (istr reading they had 8 cattle trucks at one point but would need to check). Huge numbers of cattle were transported along the line (mainly to Layerthorpe) over the years. Along with Sugar Beet and Potatoes, Oil seems to have been another staple traffic at various locations on the line, throughout its existence, but using PO tanks, including the scrapping of redundant oil tanks at Murton Lane later on. The only DVLR owned Vans I have seen reference to, seem to be in later years, for internal use (see J25's photo on p.4 of this thread, which shows an old GCR Fish Van in such use). The Brake Vans used by the DVLR are almost worthy of a book to themselves. In the early years, three already fairly old ex NER Birdcage brakes were bought (of successive designs; after withdrawal the body of one was converted into a garage for an employee's car!) until the ex SECR 6 wheeler took over in 1946, followed by the ex LNER Pigeon brake c.1968. These were also used to convey sundries traffic which could be quite substantial at times. One point of interest is that in WW2 the railway took on a strategic role as an invisible railway - from the air - due to the unchecked growth of weeds! An order apparently being given not to carry out any clearance. Photos from the 1950s show similar heavy weed growth. As a result several Ministry of Supply depots sprang up, plus a Mustard Gas filling station at Cottingwith which had its own siding and the Company did very well during the war years. The Railway was excluded from the Nationalisation list, despite attempts by the Railway to be included and ironically this is what kept the line open so long, due to the forward thinking policies employed by management. A fascinating line and history I think. Martyn.
  4. Grain loading risers & pipework have been added to the shed, along with the sliding door at one end (for bagged grain loading presumably; seen behind the Vans in the second view). Weathering of the buildings is under way too. Another coat of "sleeper grime" has been applied to the track where required, such as the grain siding clay infills.
  5. The DVLR (ex LNER) Hand Crane and ex LMS Runner have been lettered and weathered; the 2 Brake Vans have had a light coating of grime too, but still await glazing.
  6. Some work is progressing on preparing road surfaces in the goods yard/station area. This afternoon has been spent starting weathering of the DVLR stock, not the best photos though I'm afraid.
  7. I built the layout a few years ago and it is on long term loan to the Greenfield Valley Heritage Centre, in the new Steam & Rails Museum; I am going to check it over tomorrow, as it is in a protective cabinet (a necessary precaution sadly). I use foam to bare on the axles of the lower brake van which prevents runaways (2 brake Van's per train of course, front and rear due to being propelled), but had considered a vertical rod to achieve the same ends. Goods operation is quite interesting due to running around required, but Passenger operation is quite basic as you say, a Gaugemaster Shuttle unit being sufficient when the layout is on display. Thanks, Martyn.
  8. Condolences on the loss of your friend Peter. Regarding the catch, or rather trap point, if the platform is in use as such, then yes it should have one ideally, or possibly two, one on each road coming into the Y point; however a prototypical arrangement could be this: As existed at Holywell Town (LNWR). The model one is non working obviously, and in your example should be orientated to derail trains away from the line coming into the platform. If feeling very brave, a working version could be produced using half a double slip and half a Y point....would be a rather expensive option though I feel! Regards, Martyn.
  9. Thanks, they would seem plausible candidates. Unfortunately there are precious few photos of freight trains on the branch, but I have been passed a photo of a LMS 20T Brake which had derailed at Holywell Town during shunting (possibly on the catch points in the sidings), being assisted, presumably some time later, by an Ivatt 2-6-2T and men with crowbars; the Push & Pull coach having been left in the Goods Loop. Martyn.
  10. Been a while since I posted in this thread, but the Greenfield Valley Rails & Steam Museum is finally ready to open, with an Open Afternoon this Thursday 27th June, 1pm to 3pm, Facebook link here: https://www.facebook.com/events/412769595988580/?ti=cl I have recently sourced 2 bargain Bachmann short LMS 20T Brake Vans which appear to be the type used on the Holywell Town branch, which will replace a couple of old Airfix long versions. Hopefully they will be weathered ready to take their place on the layout on Thursday, all being well the layout will be running. Martyn.
  11. The "Highlight" shed is more or less complete, the base of the walls fit in slots in a base of foam board ; as it is at the front of the layout, 2 sliding doors are open so that the interior contents (grain handling equipment probably) will be visible. The grain siding is in the process of being bedded into the goods yard roadway, using DAS modelling clay (another experiment I wanted to try). The centre will be ballasted, with wooden crossings added where required. PVA was applied first to give a better seal, as per the photo, and a further skim of DAS will be needed in places before painting; previous experience has taught me to ensure it sits well below the top of the rail head! The DVLR crane has had some Archer rivet transfers and a base coat of paint applied, still needs numbers adding.
  12. The biggest problem is the floor is quite deep on the Hornby Palethorpes model so the bottom of the sides need to overlap it. The buffers and thus solebar level are a tad too high even with 12mm wheels. The cast metal outer axleguard units have holes in the base so could conceivably be moved outwards by cutting away the plastic clips which hold them in place and small screws used instead. Another method could use just the axleguard units fixed to a plasticard (or cut down coach) chassis, with a simple plastruct sliding cradle for the centre axle.
  13. I will measure my sausage (van) wheelbase and get back to you on that...... Luckily there is a Stove 'R' over at Betws-y-Coed Railway Museum, in static revenue service - as a kitchen! Along with a few other interesting items.
  14. I like the Stove 'R' method Clive, have an idea of doing one from a Mainline 50ft BG if I find a cheap one, but hadn't considered using Brake 3rd parts. Wondered if the Hornby Palethorpes van might be a close wheelbase?
  15. Thanks for the replies folks, I'm always glad to get relevant anecdotes, both humourous and informative. Paul, thanks for the seeds idea, I will investigate next time I'm near a pet store. Regarding the LNER designed Steel Opens (presumably the BR variants), these were certainly in use for train loads of Beet to British Sugar (York) c.1970 on the DVLR as photos taken at Dunnington around this time show in this book: Unfortunately I have so far found no photos online to which I can link. Whether this was due to stock availability or if the lower sides made tipping from farm trailers easier I do not know. Thanks, Martyn.
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