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    O gauge working signals from Dapol?

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    I also understand the current head of product development at Dapol came from Ratio models so hoped and expected it would have been closer to full-size practice.  However I also understand the complications of creating a working model and it needs to be robust for operation and use, but there are parts that could have been designed closer to reality.  I will stop now as I have had my say and expect/hope most of you will be happy with this new signal.  

     

    All the best....

    O gauge working signals from Dapol?

    in Dapol

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    None of fittings are to the correct pattern or even close in most cases.  ladder is incorrect with its outward facing rungs.  The older Peco/Ratio kit is much closer to the real thing and all the fittings are correct patterns including the correct finial dimensions.  Just don't understand why this later model is so wrong.  It's such a shame as could have been a great model.  I expect it will be fine for those that just want a basic working signal and are not worried about its visual accuracy like some of us.  

     

     

     

     

     

     

    O gauge working signals from Dapol?

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    Yes agreed I mentioned this in an earlier in this post.   The Modelu finials and signal lamps are spot on and I use these myself and use peco/ratio signal kits, the arms and spectacle plate would make a very good replacement.  

     

    Now I have seen the final product I think I will stick to making them myself as there are too many areas which I can see are not correctly modeled for my finescale layout.  

     

    However ....Many thanks for supplying photos and hope all goes well in use.

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    O gauge working signals from Dapol?

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    I see they ignored my constructive comments made at the Bristol O gauge show that the Finial looked wrong and was too small.  I was told they would raise this with Richard Webster (?). 

     

    The ball should 7 inches in diameter full size (or 4,08mm in 7mm scale) and larger than the post width which is 6 inches at top.   Scaling the photos above looks like the ball is closer to approx 5 inches equivalent diameter (or 2.9mm in 7mm scale) which also makes the whole finial too short in height and out of proportion.  The ball is approx 30% to small on diameter  Shame as this a simple error tends spoil the overall look of the signal.

     

    Interesting photos show bit of potential rework around the arm pivot.  Looks like its been attacked with a craft knife to make it fit or work especially as both signals are the same (???).  

     

    It's taken so long to come to market and would have hoped it would have been better, especially at the price being charged.....

     

     

     

     

     

    Dapol announce O Gauge Class 66

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    Not going to pre order this time as there is always plenty to go round and my tastes may change by time it actually hit the shops in the dim distant future.   This is not a cynical comment just realistic and I hope to be proved wrong this time which would be a nice treat.

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    Dapol announce 14xx/48xx/58xx in O.

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    Thanks for update on signals!  However if it was Dapol that said they "should" both be with us by Xmas then this suggests it give them a significant amount of wriggle room if required.... 'shall' or 'will' would have raised my confidence levels ..... a little more.   I might appear cynical but really just stating the obvious based on past experiences....

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    O gauge working signals from Dapol?

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    On 28/01/2019 at 21:07, Adrian Stevenson said:

    They had a couple of these on display yesterday at Bristol show. I asked when they would finally hit the shops and was told they should be out by Easter.

     

    Cheers, Ade.

    Easter has been a gone and no sign of signals as Dapol suggested at Bristol show.  Shame and not a great surprise as track record for delivery on everything appears to be much further into the future.

    O gauge working signals from Dapol?

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    Yes also saw the samples at Bristol show very good but the Finial on the GWR Woden post is far to small (I have full sized wooden post signal so I really noticed the difference) I mentioned this to Dapol and they suggested I raise with Richard Webster, but not sure why they couldn't do it themselves? What is did do though was to pop along to the 3D Modelu stand to see if theirs were larger... and they were... in overall height and diameter of the Finial. Shame really as the Dapol Finial really let's the signal down visually. Still not a huge issue to replace finial plus the Modelu version has a hollow ball and will transform the signal. Think the spectacle plate is not quiet right and wooden arm is too thick, but again those can be replaced. But on the whole it's not bad!

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    GWR Junction Signals

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    It will indeed not be a cheap item, but if you price up the components required to build one yourself, adding in a set of servos to operate them you will also be spending a fairly significant amount of money. Its a hobby so I am not going to calculate an hourly rate for building one myself but such an item is not something the inexperienced 4mm signal builder (like me!) can throw together in a couple of hours. All things considered, I agree with Mike Stationmaster, Dapol cannot expect to sell huge numbers of these junction signals and they will not be simple to mass produce, even at Chinese pay rates.

     

    I also live in hope that they will be more reliable than the first batch. Having said that, the ones that I have set up with a 9v supply appear to work perfectly.

     

    You pays your money and takes your choice!

     

    all the best

     

    Godfrey[/quote

     

     

    Just a shame the hobby that I loved as a child has as become out of reach for many youngsters today due to the high cost of products.....

    C&L Finescale

    in Smaller Suppliers

    Posted

    If you are going to use Peco rail, why not buy Peco's chairs (standard and slide) and Timbers, all 3 are reasonably priced

    I think they are quite crude chairs compared to C&L/Exactoscale and they have holes to take track pins so more suited to non prototypical trackwork.

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