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Sheffield Exchange, Toy trains, music and fun!
chris45lsw replied to Clive Mortimore's topic in Layout topics
Clive, have you ever hacked the Hornby LMS Period II 12 wheel Restaurant cars into anything else? Hattons are selling them for £23 at the moment (don't know how long for). Might still be too expensive to use as donors, though, but a lot better than £60.47! Chris KT -
No, it applied at Eastleigh as well - ie lined black locos like H15 & N15X. But (somewhat illogical?) the rule does not seem to have been applied to green engines, eg 'King Arthur'. Chris KT
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Rails/Dapol made a an obvious error on their BR lined black D where the early emblem on the right faced backwards. They don't seem to have learnt as on the livery samples they have repeated the error on 31741! The early 'lion over wheel' ALWAYS FACED FORWARD! Hopefully this time there is time to correct the fault. Also from Spring 1952 the cab lining on BR lined black locos was changed. Previously it was 'continuous' as on 31741 but from 1952 it was 'cut' where the footplating intruded into the cab side. So 'continuous' lining is incorrect for the late crest engine, 31246. Chris KT
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The first pic can't be 6 Jan 1957 because 30449 lost its Drummond watercart tender for a Urie tender in November 1955. Set 829 was a 3-set built by BRC&W hence the shallower windows/higher waist line of the three green coaches compared to Eastleigh built coaches' Like many 3-sets it would be made up to 5 with 2 Bulleid TKs (ie the two red & cream Bulleids which Bachmann are bringing out idc) for the Summer timetable (June to September). I therefore doubt that the photo was taken in January as I would expect set 829 to revert to 3 coaches between September and June. 2-sets 'R' were, obviously, not unknown on the Bodmin branch but a rare event I believe. Chris KT
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GWR Toplights Poll
chris45lsw replied to Neal Ball's topic in GWR Rolling Stock: model and prototype
An E95 brake compo would be nice/useful as well. Chris KT -
Modellers Mecca make several varieties of British Standard gangway but not (yet, & I hope they will) specifically for the Hornby GBL. Which would be best I wouldn't like to say. The LSWR underframes used were from non-corridor stock (the bodies went onto new electric undeframes) so the gangways were new. Chris KT
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Sheffield Exchange, Toy trains, music and fun!
chris45lsw replied to Clive Mortimore's topic in Layout topics
Hello Clive I note you've drawn all six doors the same. It's apparent that the four original LNER doors (though reclad and repositioned) were used at the ends but the middle two doors were different and didn't match - on the face of it looks more SR (perhaps not surprisingly) and did not have a ventilator above the droplight. Love your 'cut and shuts' by the way and awestruck by your productivity! Chris KT -
According to Bradley 311 got its BR number Sept 1951 when the snifting valves were also removed. Didn't last long in this condition as it was withdrawn July 1952. Chris KT
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Dreadnoughts were never red - ended their lives in brown. Chris KT
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That is a GWR 0-4-2T so I'd be surprised to see it hauling a 'Gate' set. Chris KT
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I would agree with Brian that the best choice of a 'Sunshine' Compo would be the 59' 10" E158 which had the more usual 4 x first and 3 x third compartments. The shorter 58' 7" Compos had 3 x first and 4 x third and were fewer in number. In addition I'd suggest a D127 Van Third plus, naturally, improved replacements for the existing Bachmann C77 Third and E159 Brake Compo. Chris KT
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The 'typical' Gresley corridor was 61ft 6in over body on a 60ft underframe, including the Composite, so there was no reason for Hornby not to make a Compo (or a Brake Third for that matter) instead of the poor selection of TK, FK, BCK and RB (and sleeper). It was the Thompson Composite which was 59ft 6in as against the 63ft of most Thompsons. But happily Bachmann was prepared to make both lengths in this case. Chris KT
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My vote goes to 9. and 11. but it should be borne in mind that not all 'Sunshines' were 60' 11.25" long - composites were 59' 10" or 58' 7" while the sole first diagram was 60' 1.25". This might deter some manufacturers. For 12. I suggest, with hesitation, the flat ended 57' stock of 1933-35. Hesitation because only Thirds, Van Thirds and Brake Compos were produced in this style, ie no Compo. But, by my reckoning, the C67 third was the fourth most numerous diagram of Grouping period Third after the bow ended E127 (Hornby); the Hawksworth C82/84 (Hornby; and the 'Sunshine' C77 (Bachmann. Chris KT
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My transfers arrived today - many thanks, John. Chris KT
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A 4-set (S) was BR Mk1 BSK/CK/SK/BSK, set Nos. between 866 and 891, all built as 4-sets but several had been augmented to longer sets from 6 to 11 coaches by 1961. Chris KT
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One for the Coach Experts
chris45lsw replied to David C's topic in GWR Rolling Stock: model and prototype
Yes, apart from being 1" narrower, basically E157 had deeper windows and hence a lower waist line compared to E147. Also E147 had one first compartment and five thirds - 333313van, whereas E157 had two firsts and four thirds - 333113van. Chris KT -
My vote are: 4, 5 & 6. Chris KT
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To be pedantic the centre coach of these sets was always a 58' lavatory compo to diagram 285. Chris KT
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My vote is 1, 2, 4 & 5. Chris KT
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GWR B Set coaches - livery dates
chris45lsw replied to Scottish Modeller's topic in UK Prototype Questions
The most numerous 'B' set was the flat ended E147, over 50 pairs. The second most common was the bow ended E140 with 7ft bogies (I make it 41 pairs). This is the diagram made by Airfix/Hornby. It is also the type that appears most often in photos on the Bodmin-Wadebridge-Padstow branch. E145 was the third most common (25 pairs, I think) and as said elsewhere was the same as E140 apart from having 9ft bogies. The were only minimal numbers of other 'B' set diagrams, E116 (7 sets), E129 (5 sets) and E135 (2 sets). Chris KT -
Becasse took the words out of my mouth! 734 certainly got about; for instance it did at least one stint on the Callington branch, not working in P&P mode. I have a very nice model of this set in lined crimson by 'Northstar Design'. Chris KT
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My votes go to: 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 8 & 11 Chris KT