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Ian Rathbone

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  1. I use a cellulose paint matched to Precision Paints LMS Crimson Lake, which is probably the best colour on the market and it’s available in gloss. You say ‘I’ll spray it’ , do you mean a rattle can or air brush? Rover Damask Red is probably discontinued now and it’s also a little pink. LMS, MR & BR Crimson Lake/ Maroon are all the same colour. Ian R
  2. How do you intend to apply the paint? Ian R
  3. I inadvertently posted a topic twice. How do I delete the duplicate? ian R
  4. The ‘Right Track 3’ Painting & Lining video is now officially available. The link to it is: https://www.youtube.com/@chriswalsh9962/playlists Chris Walsh is the original producer of the series. The parts available cover spray painting and lining with a ruling pen (bow pen). Ian R
  5. ROD 2-8-0s were shipped to France like this - Black all over, including buffer beams. 7mm model built by Mike Edge. Ian R
  6. Here’s a better photo of Frank’s King -
  7. At a recent Bonham’s auction this streamlined Duchess, built from a DJH 7mm kit, and painted by me with the full three colour lining sold for a mere £384, including buyer’s premium. These are not easy to paint and I charged more than that for the painting! The kit, wheels and motor would come to about £900 (2021). Had it been placed with Ellis Clark or Steamlines I’m sure it would have achieved a better price. I think that where you sell has a bearing on the price realised. Ian R
  8. I have the story of the BR renumbering of steam and early diesel & electrics on my website. The GW did renumber some South Wales locos around the time of nationalisation. Meanwhile, the Black 5 I showed earlier in this thread is now nearly complete and did some running in on Buck’s Hill. (BH has a website). Ian R
  9. Patriot 45513 prepares to move off shed, 22nd June 1955. Ian R
  10. Any commercial lime scale remover should do it. Ian R
  11. 35 years ago I bought a Badger 150 dual action, which has a detachable bottom feed cup or jar for the paint. I am still using it after painting well over 1600 locos and coaches in 4 & 7 mm scales. In that time it has had two new heads and needles but the internal seals have never been replaced. It is easy to clean and strips down to all its component parts without fuss. You get what you pay for. I would suggest you get a mid-range dual action air brush from a named manufacturer, avoid unbranded Chinese airbrushes or any bundled up with a compressor. Ian R
  12. You mean a white circle, not a disc. Sometimes the circle was omitted. Ian R
  13. 32151, Eastleigh Works pilot (ex LBSCR E1) the only member of the class known to have received BR lining, in 1949.
  14. It is a complete myth that British 00 gauge arose from the inability to fit motors into British outline H0 locos. This may have been true in the 1920s but, by the time the British scale was put into production by Hornby in the late 30s, motors could quite easily be made small enough to fit. No, the reason for choosing a larger scale for the bodies was to enable the fitting of outside valve gear. Hornby Dublo’s first two locos had no o/s valve gear but they were planning to introduce the ‘Duchess of Atholl’. H0 wheels measure 20.6 mm over the outside of the tyres. A typical width between cylinder centres of a British loco is 6’-8” which scales at 23.35 mm, which gives a width of 1.37 mm on each side to fit the valve gear. Three thicknesses of metal plus tolerance? It couldn’t be done, and still cannot. Continental locos with a wider loading gauge and lower platforms meant that model producers could ease the width over the cylinders to provide that space. How often do you see a British outline H0 model with o/s valve gear? The only thing that is scale in H0 is the distance between the rails; everything else, for steam outline, is a compromise. This was certainly true of the Rivarossi Royal Scot. British H0 is feasible for diesel or electric outline but not steam. Ian R
  15. Then there was this one - following a spurious article in one of the magazines. I did North British to go with it. This is one of Mike Edge’s P2s - I read with amazement how many locos some of you have. I have built about 50 but, apart from a handful of 4mm locos that rarely see light of day, I have only ten, in 7mm, but then I built eight of them and heavily modified the two others. Here’s another one I’m building now, well I started it over a year ago and took time off over Xmas to get the construction finished. It’s an Ivatt Black 5, luckily not one that Ellis Clarke are doing, built from an old Javelin kit. Much head scratching and poring over Pipe & Rod drawings. The body here is in etch primer and the rods chemically blackened. The chassis is not quite complete in the photo as a pair of sand pipes needed rerouting. It is now in the paint shop after completion and testing. Ian R
  16. I remember, at spotting session at Crewe in the late fifties, seeing a calf in a sack being loaded into the brake van of a passenger train. Ian R
  17. Another engine that I forgot was Big Bertha which had outside admission hence ‘backward cranks’ and radius rods below the valve rods. It was also unique* in having four cylinders but only two valves. *Unique until proved otherwise. True - as far as I know. Ian R
  18. Replying to various points made since my last post, but possibly not in the same order. In 7mm scale Slater’s make axles to suit 120deg crank angles. This V2, built by Richard Spoors, has AGH wheels set at 120 deg, and working inside motion. Unfortunately AGH wheels are no longer available. I forgot about the C14 having outside admission gear, I painted one in 4mm that Mike Edge built no long ago! You can see the radius rod is below the valve rod. As far as I know the Midland Compound is unique in that the outside (hp) cylinders are 90 deg apart while the inside (lp) is at 135 deg. This beautiful model was built by the late Graham Varley. I cheated with my own Schools which also has 90/135 setting, but then, as Tony says… Some railway companies preferred right hand lead while the remainder preferred left hand. The Lord Nelsons had the outside cranks set at 90 deg to each other but the inside were at 45/135, giving 8 beats per rev. This made a very even pull on the fire but, as mentioned, not much difference to performance. Ian R
  19. Further to the valve gear discussion, as well as the rebuilt Bulleid Pacifics Maunsell’s N, N1, U, U1, W & Z classes all had ‘backward leaning’ return cranks. These are the only examples of British locomotives that I know of. The other difference with the Bulleids is that the radius rod attaches to the combination lever below the valve rod. Of course all Tony’s 3 cylinder engines should have their opposing cranks set at 120 deg rather than 90, but I won’t go there. Ian R
  20. It’s more subtle than ‘green or black’. There were variations between and within the classes, eg some green engines had crimson lake splashers lined in red and others had green splashers lined in white. These differences affected the lining colours on the boiler, cab and tender. You will need to acquire the GCR liveries book mentioned above to fully understand it - as far as you can as there are some gaps in the knowledge and red lining was invisible to the film used back in the day. Immingham, green for about 6 months, then lined black. And No. 272 in lined black. Ian R
  21. I hate to be pedantic but if you are going for a Southern look (ie with a water softening triangle) then you should carefully remove the ‘MT’. MT was only ever used in Scotland. A Southern Region loco would have had 1P1F as its power class. The Bulleid light Pacifics were classified 7P5F. Ian R
  22. You seem to have three variants missing. LNER green with full black smoke box, BR green with later emblem (and OHE warnings) and one of the last four with the odd shaped lining at the front end (not attractive). Ian R
  23. I’m afraid Nigel Digby’s books are very sketchy - no rear views and no real detail. The photo I was referring to is actually a photo of a ‘New L’ in Stoke Works but in the corner of the photo is part of a cab side of another loco, freshly painted, and the four colours can clearly be seen. The photo also shows the lining marking out on the cab rear of the New L - many companies used plain black or unlined colour for this area. Ian R
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