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  1. The catering cars look like miniature buffets (RMB) to me, similar to the recent Bachmann model. Regards Phil
  2. Cracking photos of a cracking line. We used to have our summer holidays in Teignmouth in the early 80s. My interest in railways started in the Summer of 1984 whilst there. One of my earliest railway memories is of large logo 50003 Temeraire coming through platform 2 full chat. Magic.
  3. Thanks for that, glad I'd not imagined/half-remembered it. I imagine in a composite coach the differences might need to be a bit more obvious to allow passengers to identify the correct class. Regards Phil
  4. As previous posters have said, there was a great variety of traction. Class 45s, 47s, 50s. Pairs of class 31s on services from the NW, very often hauling WCML sets - Mk 2 aircons with a Mk3a catering car and in later years a DVT. Network SouthEast Mk1s/2s on services from London as well as loco hauled Intercity stock. Tatty mixed rakes of Mk1s put together for Friday or Saturday Only services. Regarding freight services, off the top of my head, china clay was prevalent, the most well known service probably being the "Silver Bullets" from Burngullow to Irvine double-headed by Class 37s. Also Polybulks, Tiger Rail PBAs. Speedlink services to Exeter and Tavistock Jcn, oil to Heathfield. Bound to be more than this. Also Parcels and TPO workings I've been reading "Devon Railways: The Area Manager's Diary" by John Heaton which covers the author's career around the Exeter area in the mid-late 80s. Whilst describing his role as a manager the South West, operational problems, local politics etc there are quite extensive references to locomotives throughout the text. There are 2 books, also on Kindle and I would recommend them as an engaging, honest and often humorous read. My late father worked for BR for 37 years and we holidayed in Devon when I was a child so the books hold a special interest for me. some great shots here, illustrating the variety to be had over the years http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.uk/teignmouth-to-exminster.html Hope this helps Regards Phil
  5. Can anyone confirm the identity of the leading coach in this photo please? https://www.flickr.com/photos/33106/8157234952/in/photolist-pe9wtB-oyKTrU-dZTDE9-bD45dF-jt3S8v-Cbj14E-2dpkkZ4-dqPXKW-mmTPWT-K2edUN-JZreuo-BricG6-oAuk4z-23ZJS1N-KPi4aP-4gU9eo-cUvYcA-mmTQ72-cUwdg3-cUwqLC-cUw8uy-cUwAQ7-cUwctQ-cUwCbC-b39QrX-218h49E-b39ZzD-b39Xi8-b39Zbr-b39SDF-b39XXv-b39UYt-b39VDi-2c2K5X6-K4fqhs-wUwJdP-Aivpq3-K8U7L9-kScfzv-PKgGZP-LCBEZW-96ycEG-b39SiT-b39TAZ-zJN1B9-b39SZv-b39U6g-b39Su6-b39RSx-SCu6Cu The photo is dated 27th June 1987 and is of the 1V67 1010 Scarborough - Paignton service. It looks like a Mk1 BFK but I thought they had all been withdrawn by this time. In addition, the Newcastle - Poole/Weymouth services in 1987/8 were usually a rake of around 6 Mk 2 aircon TSOs, with a Mk1 BG & RBR. The first class accommodation was also Mk 2 aircon. Can anyone confirm whether FOs or FKs were used and also whether the TSOs were Mk 2d, e or f? Many thanks Phil
  6. Hi Ross Looks like a Mk2c BSO to me. Sure someone will be able to corroborate this (or not) shortly. Regards Phil
  7. I'm sure I remember reading in one the Marsden Recognition guides that as well as the other changes mentioned earlier, the carpets were also removed from Mk2 FKs when they were declassified to SKs. A number of Mk2f FOs were declassified to SOs (64xx) and then later converted to "high density" (my terminology) TSOs (68xx no range) around 1990 for use on commuter services on the MML to St Pancras and the ECML to Kings Cross. The latter conversion involved altering the internal layout, IIRC they had 70+ seats many in airline style configuration. Regards Phil
  8. Hi Chris Re the differences - Cumbria machine has a recessed rear cab step, also the bodywork above the lockers slopes from the rear of the cab to the back of the vehicle, on the other it runs parallel with the top of the lockers for the whole length of the vehicle. The also have different style lights and ladder arrangements. Depends how much of a compromise you are willing to make. Langley Miniature Models do a 1/76 Leyland Freighter pump, ref G185, with Lancashire markings. Far as I can see it represents one of the D-H reg machines. The various batches having bodywork by either Fulton & Wylie, Mountain Range or Reynolds Boughton but looking almost identical. The Fireflash Delta 64 website is probably the most comprehensive record on the internet and is a superb reference. Which NW brigades are you interested in? Regards Phil
  9. Around 1990/91 the pale grey POAs were used on a flow of limestone from Whitwell quarry in NE Derbyshire to Witton, Birmingham. Often hauled by a large logo or Railfreight Construction liveried Class 56. Regards Phil
  10. Kingsway models do a free download of a Wilkinsons shopfront, as well as some useful high street buildings http://www.kingswaymodels.com/page27.htm Fox Transfers also supply some useful 80s-90s style fascias - PO, Rumbelows, WHSmith, Boots etc, as well as some more generic ones. Think I'm correct in saying that as time has passed the number of independents in whatever sector has diminished greatly. If you want to give a sense of place, using a local chain might work, bakeries seem to be a constant for example. Cynics like myself would say all you need for a modern day high street in any large town or city is several coffee shops, betting shops, charity shops and a few takeaways. Many of the larger stores would be in the main shopping centres. There are also a few stores that would fit in any decade - Ernest Whiteley in Bridlington for example - fourth picture down https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/analysis/stitches-in-time-the-shop-that-s-hardly-changed-in-114-years-1-7220744 Regards Phil
  11. Hi Definitely 33050, 33207, 60001. No doubt a few more too. Regards Phil
  12. Hi Richard I am attempting to model the Derby area in late 1980s/early 90s. As you say, coal was still a major freight flow, a lot from Derbys/Notts coalfields to power stations in the Trent Valley. There was also Avenue coking plant near Chesterfield There were also flows to/from further afield. Usual motive power was 2x20s, 56s and 58s on MGR services with HAAs, also Speedlink coal services with HEAs often with Class 37 hauled. To easily add variety, MGR services from Denby opencast site just north of Derby had a brake van at each end to enable the train crew to operate the gated crossings along the route. Have got more info on freight and passenger services, will dig out and post. It's certainly a good area and era to model. Lot of variety in services and locomotives. Regards Phil
  13. Evening Resurrecting an old topic. I'm interested in Summer 1988 services, several NE-SW workings used a class 47/4 hauling a HST set with a Generator Van at one end and a HST Barrier Vehicle at the other as discussed earlier. Is anyone able to identify the barrier vehicle in this shot? Looks like a Mk2c BSO but only carrying a 4 digit TOPS number rather than a Departmental ADB 9xxxxx number. Nor does it carry any specific branding. https://www.flickr.com/photos/blackwatch55013/5511742841/in/photolist-9p487Z-9p7bUs HST Barrier Vehicles were renumbered into the 63xx series but this was around 1990 I believe. The Colin Marsden book HST Silver Jubilee states that depots made up their own vehicles from spare coaches, fitting a buck-eye coupling at one end. Would this be done ad-hoc and why not use the dedicated departmental vehicles? As an aside, despite the departmental vehicles being branded as "barrier" vehicles, they are (more correctly?) referred to as "match" vehicles in some books. Thanks Phil
  14. Plymouth dep 1125, arr Derby 1508. 3hrs 43mins. Don't know which depot would work that. The 1988 equivalent stops to change Train crew. I bet they were glad of that!
  15. From May 1989, there were two Saturdays Only InterCity Holidaymaker services between Glasgow Queen Street and Newquay (HST) 0655 Glasgow Queen St - Newquay 1810. 0950 Newquay - Glasgow Queen St 2048. They were routed via the NE-SW route, rather than the WCML - Birmingham, Derby, Doncaster, York, Newcastle and Edinburgh. Northbound was non-stop between Plymouth and Derby! Southbound non-stop between Derby and Bristol Temple Meads. There were equivalent services in the Summer 1988 timetable (HSTs) both routed via St Andrews Jn also avoiding Birmingham New Street. 1990 services were worked by Laira HST sets. Regards Phil
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