bill_schmidt1

Wasn't this the first exclusive loco for RMWeb? Or is that best forgotten about?

Fair enough. Be interested to know when the rivets started being added and I wonder if it was a batch thing as there are pictures of new ones (at least fairly new) with the rivets.

Having taken the time to put the tiny lettering on the axle boxes I would have thought putting the row of rivets either side of the axle box on the W iron would have been simple enough to do..

Sorry, I don't buy that one at all. Whether you criticise KR or Hornby or Bachman it doesn't matter if they are a one-man-band or 1000-band-man. What matters is whether the criticism is warranted or not and how it is dealt with.

Thing is, and it been said a lot, No one really knows who has done,doing what first. What can be said is its always Hornby that get accused of gazumping!

Thing is Hornby haven't done a new tooled loco/stock announcement at Warley for some time and do all that around Christmas, so why this announcement is such a let down to you and a few others who seem to want to bash/mock/etc Hornby all the time is rather funny. Its the same old thing. Hornby announce this, "moan moan moan.. duplication.. bad Hornby.. Blah blah blah". Another manufacturer makes a duplication announcement and everyones happy. It's pathetic. If you don't like Hornby then just don't buy Hornby.

Seems that way doesn't it. Probably dog and gran by the way Rapido are going after Cambrian SECR kits.

Sort out the wonky numbers on the D class next then?

Thats the problem though. This forum is full of manufacturers threads with people clamouring for the latest products. They then seem happy to let errors go but then start up the next round of "we need a new tooled/ upgraded X Y or Z" when it could of just been right the first time. In this case its a silly error that should be right and as you point out people could fix it but why should they? If this was a Hornby model we'd be at 100+ pages of people saying it should of been right and Hornby should know better.

Oh I dunno. Would be nice on a nearly £200 loco if the numbers were straight. As you say, we keep getting ever more superb models so it would be nice if they got the simple things right. Seems more and more thought that people want ever better/upgraded models and are also happy for them to carry mistakes.

On all the ones pictured in the last couple of pages. The cabside numbers all appear to be drooping to the left on each side. Can't just be the angle/camera lens that everyone has taken picture.

As Nice as they look, they all seem to have wonky numbers...

Having built a couple of the Cambrian kits recently it only took me a few minutes to look through a few books to see that in later SR and then BR days that some picked up 3-hole disc wheels.

Not all of them had split-spoked wheels so you might want to check that..

Sentinel shunting at Tarring Neville.

This part (Tarring Neville) is shared between BR, off of the Seaford branch and the Cement works at South Heighton. I believe the builder of the layout plans to make the cement works as a layout at some point and join the two layouts together.

And a few others

Couple of pictures of my friends layout, shared with permission.

Whys it up to anyone other than Heljan to check the body shape? No point blaming people not coming forward and identifying the problems for you. After all, who's being paid to do the work? And in the same way you say about engaging with customers, that works both ways. Blame people for not coming forward to point out errors and those people you're pointing the finger at probably won't bother in the future.

Lets be honest here, DJmodels didn't/doesn't have the money to produce its own products hence all the crowdfunding so why would Dave spend money on business premises when so many are waiting for his products? More bad business management? I don't think so.

Nicely put

A fair crack of the whip? Dave Jones got that.. Kernow, Hatton's, the Irish lads and RevolutioN all put trust in him. Kernow had to bail him out. Hatton's got a hit and miss 14xx, beaten by Hornby to the King and the other two have had mud slung at them for wanting to go their own ways. He had his crack and lost out but of course it wasn't his fault! If he means that other manufacturers should of let him do models of items just because he'd announced them first then why? This is business not the playground and just because he's announced X first doesn't mean he hadn't picked it up just because he'd heard someone was working X.. How many times did he drop hints or let slip other manufacturers were working on things?? Hardly going to endear himself to others is it??

There is a hilarious irony in this.. I mean he's claiming IP to designs that someone else has paid him for and as far as i'm aware he hasn't done the work himself. He managed to take over a design/manufacturing role on items for Kernow that I guess he worked on or was slowly working on at Dapol when he was employed by them. He's crying foul on anyone thats producing items he is / wants to but doesn't see it that way when he goes to do something someone else is working on or produced.. He's crying foul on people going direct to factories he uses when thats exactly what he did to start his business. Remember the first CADs and EPs for the J94? Weird that they had exactly the same join line on the tanks that the old Dapol/Hornby model had wasn't it! People have said for a while that he should just stop with the stupid rants, poor old me routines etc and just get on and produce the stuff that he says he will. Instead he's constantly added more and more to his production list without finishing other things and throws out lame excuse after excuse blaming anyone but himself when things go wrong.

Maybe its time for DJModels to drop the " Setting higher standards" tag..

Bit late to clarify things.. Should of engaged the brain before putting out a daft announcement of an announcement and then following through with an even worse announcement. I would of even won some money if I'd taken a friend up on the bet of DJ coming out today and back peddling on the original announcement. This isn't the first time he tried it but hopefully its the last.