Thanks for clarifying how the City came about. When you say there is an eventual NRM tie-in with Lode Star, does that mean you're aware that NRM plan to release a Star at some stage as well? If they do, I hope it is successful, and if it is successful I hope that prompts someone to take a punt on the Saint. The Stars didn't last any longer than the Saints, and if the Star is a successful release then that would suggest a Saint could be as well.
I think you missed my point about 7mm as I referenced the availability of both RTR and kits in 7mm which in my opinion have progressed in leaps and bounds in the last 15 years compared to the developments in 4mm. Off the top of my head 7mm RTR steam outline engines can be sourced from Bachmann, DJH, L H Loveless, Golden Age Models, Lionheart, Tower, and Masterpiece Models. I realise that a lot of these are sold as kits, but the kit manufacturers themselves offer them as a finished product, so that counts as RTR as far as I'm concerned. Returning to the Saint as an example there are kits available in 7mm from Slaters, Just Like The Real Thing, and DJH with the DJH one being available RTR. I suspect all three of these kits are of a higher quality than the SE Finecast and dreaded Proscale ones available in 4mm. In fact, I suspect the standard of kits overall is a lot higher for locos, coaches and wagons in 7mm than in 4mm, but that may have more to do with the fact that there has traditionally been less competiton in the past from the RTR sector in 7mm. As well as a RTR Saint in 7mm the prewar GWR modeller has recently been blessed with a 64xx and 74xx pannier, a stunning Castle, and will soon have available a Star and an Autocoach (that looks far superior to the old 4mm Airfix one).
Admittedly we've had a few new models in 4mm RTR recently, but a lot of them have been new toolings or revamps of existing models such as the Collet Goods, 57xx, Hall and the soon to be available 28xx and Castle. As a result, there is a sense of deja vu with recent GWR releases compared to what is going on in the 7mm scene. And when the manufacturers have released completely new models such as the Grange and County, they're unfortunately locos that came too late for a lot of pre-war GWR modellers.
I guess what disappoints me is that there has been nothing truly fresh and exciting in the recent releases from the 4mm RTR manufacturers for the pre-war GWR modeller. When I hear people saying that they think Bachmann aren't keen on doing a Saint because it didn't last into what is now the popular period then I'm left with the feeling that our 4mm manufacturers have blinkers on when it comes to the way they do business. It's about time one of the 4mm manufacturers had the courage to ignore the whingers who complain that they don't want to pay more then xxx for a model and release a model that may have more limited appeal, but do so at a higher price and even in a limited run (to increase demand). I'm not saying it has to be at Masterpiece Models prices or anything close to that, but I would happily pay twice the price for a limited run model that didn't have as wide appeal as say a Castle. This type of approach works in HO in the American market, and would appear to work in 7mm in the UK market, so why not OO? And if someone thinks twice the normal price is too much for a limited appeal 4mm RTR loco, then I have a SE Saint kit in the cupboard awaiting construction which has probably cost me that already. Because, to bring it up to current day RTR standards I've added to the basic kit, a Perseverance chassis, Mashima motor, High Level gearbox, Ultrascale wheels, other casting to improve on the originals, cast name plates and a Mitchell tender. All those bits have cost me nearly GBP 250.00 and I haven't even built it yet! If a RTR manufacturer was to release a Saint at a retail price of GBP 250.00, then I wouldn't quibble at the price. They may even get a few BR WR modellers buying them too. I have a Heljan Hymek and Western in my collection that will never be seen on my layout, but I still bought them because I just like them!