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5 hours ago, Obadiah said:
However who I wonder remembers the K's offering from the 1960's, three tons of solid whitemetal, but it's all we had Harry!
Still got a K's one upstairs, somewhere, that I made something over 45 years ago as a replica of one that arrived on the Bluebell Railway in Port of London markings. Yes, you're right, it's very, very heavy and also has no floor (not that the latter makes any odds unless you pick the model up).
Pete T.
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On 12/10/2015 at 15:08, Overner said:
I'd very much like to replace the chimney with a Drummond chimney. Does anyone know of anywhere I can get such a chimney or, is there anyone out there who could turn one as a one off commission?, I believe it was the same as the chimney fitted to the B4 0-4-0.
Colin
@Jeepy Hi again Jim,
Just found the above on page 32 of this thread... several other useful comments on there, too, especially concerning possible SECR origin of the RH cab front pipes.
Given that the Dapol B4 Drummond chimney is available as a spare from the Dapol website, priced at £2.00, I've ordered one to see if it'll fit on the Terrier. Both the B4 and the Terrier seem to split the chimney from the smokebox in approximately the same place, so I think there's a pretty good chance it'll either fit, or be made to fit, without too much trouble. Once the chimney gets here, I'll report back!
Pete T.
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Out of idle interest to see who House of Hobbies is, I've just looked at their website. I think you may have missed a red strap line at the top which says 'Due to staff shortage we are unable to take phone calls at the moment. Apologies for the inconvenience. Please email us with any enquiries.'
From that I think it's more than likely you'll eventually get an answer to your emails, though probably nowhere near as quickly as would normally be the case.
Pete T.
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6 hours ago, PJT said:7 hours ago, Jeepy said:
Also, I was observing all the pipe work on top of the loco in your prototype picture......🤔.
I've got a BR period Terrier upstairs. I'll dig it out later today and have a look and, if it looks like it has the same runs of pipework coming out of the cab front, I'll sort out a couple of photos for you.
Pete T.
Not such great news, Jim. My other O gauge Terrier is 32650 and the pipework out of the cab front is nothing like DS680's.
The photo possibly indicates that DS680's pipework was a bit ad hoc (doesn't look neatly done). However, 32650 was an extended bunker Terrier brought back from the Isle of Wight in 1937, then served as DS515 as Waddon's predecessor at Lancing, then returned to capital stock in 1953, so it had plenty of excuse to receive all sorts of modifications, too - and that's assuming Dapol's pipework depiction on the model is anywhere near accurate, which it might well not be (Hornby's recent OO model of DS680 lacks all the pipes from the RH side of the cab front that are visible in the photo Hal Nail posted). More photos of DS680 will be needed, preferably from above, I think.
Then there's the Drummond chimney referred to by @RodneySabove. I knew DS680 was intended to take the Marsh chimney from 32635 'Brighton Works'; the penny hadn't dropped that it wore a Drummond chimney in service. I have 4mm Drummond chimneys, but not a 7mm one. Added to the list of things to find!
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46 minutes ago, Jeepy said:
Also, I was observing all the pipe work on top of the loco in your prototype picture......🤔.
I've got a BR period Terrier upstairs. I'll dig it out later today and have a look and, if it looks like it has the same runs of pipework coming out of the cab front, I'll sort out a couple of photos for you.
Pete T.
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3 hours ago, Jeepy said:
Whilst perusing further down the list I found the complete kit for the Westinghouse pump which includes both 'cylinders' it seems, Dapol number 115188 at £6, I've ordered that instead of 2 of the 113864 parts.....I'm hoping I've done the right thing!
Hi Jim,
Having just had a look, I'm sure you've got it right - a fair bit cheaper and a bit less work to do than the bits I bought. I should have looked a bit more carefully! I've just taken three photos of the air pump pipework on my other Dapol Terrier to give you a bit of a hand - it's not as complex as you might think.
@Hal Nail - Thanks for the suggestion for the lettering. I'll make an enquiry.
Pete T.
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2 hours ago, Hal Nail said:
It's the early format before they were reboilered as A1X some time before BR days. Winged smokebox/splashers and original chimney, plus wooden brake blocks. Once rebuilt the front end was quite different.
Waddon stayed nearer this format than the others, in use till quite late at Lancing carriage works.
You can get the plain black Dapol A1 Terrier very close to DS680 (Waddon) by ordering a few Dapol spares from Peter's Spares. The metal brake set (Dapol no. 110319), bunker top extension (Dapol no. 113197) and Westinghouse pump (Dapol no. 113864) are on their way to me in the post at the moment.
Unfortunately I failed to realise in time that you need to order two of the Dapol spare part Westinghouse pumps to make one complete Westinghouse pump assembly (if I'd looked a bit more at the photo it was obvious!), so I'll have to order another later today. There's also a couple of SR/BR era lamp irons to add, but they're easy to do. I haven't begun to try to find lettering for the bunkerside yet.
The nice thing about DS680 is that, though she spent most of her time at Lancing carriage works, she did get out on at least one excursion - there's photos online of her at Robertsbridge and Tenterden.
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56 minutes ago, 34theletterbetweenB&D said:
Back in the days of chart recorders every eligible lab procedure write up went to the typing pool with the line 'Ensure pen is inserted correctly.'; and hope the typist would oblige.
Happily my best ever didn't require such dodges. Nothing beats 'push the rabbit into the nuclear reactor'.
And on topic, the modelled LB locality pictures are splendid.
Reminds me that 'Screw, to the end of the earth' and 'Screw, for points' got inserted in every car parts catalogue we were involved with writing.
Pete T.
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8 hours ago, St Enodoc said:22 hours ago, Captain Kernow said:
I thought it was Bing's Bollege...
https://montycasinos.com/montypython/scripts/travagent.php.html
I'll have Eric Idle's voice going around in my head for the rest of the day now.
Pete T.
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1 hour ago, Bucoops said:3 hours ago, 31A said:
The engineers on here probably aren't going to like this, but after I've screwed the crankpins in tightly I turn the wheel over and put the crankpin between the jaws of a vice, then hit the back of the crankpin with a centre punch! I aim to hit it slightly off centre which deforms the thread and stops it unscrewing....
As a method to lock a thread it has precedent in "real" life so no reason not to use it in modelling. Several vehicle manufacturers have used either hub nuts that have an area where you use a hammer and punch to deform the nut into a groove in the thread, or the thread in the hub nut itself is deliberately deformed so it self-locks.
Quite right - distorting the thread with a punch is a process called 'staking' and, if done properly, is recognised for its engineering integrity. It's used quite a bit in my sphere of work, car manufacturing, an application example being a hot environment where nylon insert locking nuts (nylocs) or threadlock compounds would be compromised. Alternatively, nuts with pre-distorted thread can be used: Aerotight, Philidas or Cleveloc being the more common traditional designs.
Pete T.
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26 minutes ago, lezz01 said:
We all call a Fowler 3F tank a Jinty but they were not called a Jinty by the engine men or shed staff they were called Jockos.
'Bagnalls' on the Somerset & Dorset!
Plus, 3F tender locos were 'Bulldogs' and 4Fs 'Armstrongs'.
Pete T.
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Well done and thank you, once again, Hattons. Honourable behaviour towards us to the last.
Pete T.
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1 hour ago, Steamport Southport said:
Signed In with the finger poised on the Add To Trunk (Add To Basket before the Trunk appeared) button and constantly refreshing as they added things!
40 minutes ago, MattR said:You knew once the email arrived to stop hitting "refresh" every 30 seconds because most of the time that would be all that was added for that day. Although there were often exceptions, with more stuff going up after the email.
Kind of amusing to see we were all using the same techniques!
Pete T.
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4 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said:
How do you think we've been snapping up all the bargains before everyone else all these years?! Early evening/teatime was bargain time!
Signed In with the finger poised on the Add To Trunk (Add To Basket before the Trunk appeared) button and constantly refreshing as they added things!
I'm afraid when people kept saying "There's no bargains at Hattons" it's because people like me had bought them all!
Err, yes, me too. Especially 'non runners', 'inconsistent runners' and 'intermittent runners'.
Pete T.
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Well, it's half past four, got a cup of coffee. Have they already loaded today's pre-owned onto the website, or will it be after five o'clock today?
Oh.......................
It's going to take a while to get used to this, isn't it? For quite a lot of us, I suspect.
Pete T.
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30 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said:
Try Alan Gibson, 247 Developments, Markits, PDK, Comet/Wizard, SE Finecast, Nucast Partners, etc. for starters.
Exactly, plus all the ranges available through Phoenix Precision's website, too.
Pete T.
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2 hours ago, johndon said:
Not my work, I wish it was, but I'd defy most people not to think that the exterior photos were of the real plane rather than the model - certainly fooled me and a lot others in the comments. One of THE most naturally realistic models, in any genre, I've ever seen...
https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235134707-tbd-1-devastator-vt-3-midway/
That's absolutely astonishing. Thank you so much for bringing it to our attention.
Pete T.
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As a bit of an aside, I see many people have commented on how useful the directory pages are on the Hattons website - an observation with which I certainly agree. Just in case people aren't aware of it, there's a very useful free web resource called the Wayback Machine (https://archive.org/web/) that archives regularly taken snapshots of websites - very useful after those websites have been taken down. I use it to bring up defunct websites from the motor manufacturing industry, for which it's really good. Looking on it this morning, I see that all the pages of today's Hattons.co.uk website are already archived and accessible.
Of course, the Hattons Directory won't be maintained and updated in future unless someone from Hattons decides to continue it out of the goodness of their heart, or someone else takes it over and runs with it. At least, though, we will continue to have access to all the info that's there already, through the Wayback Machine. So long as the Wayback Machine continues, of course!
Pete T.
Edit - Just checked again, accessing the pages of the snapshot taken today by different ways, and while some pages of info are there, some aren't. Going back through snapshots taken last year, different pages are available. So it's disappointingly not perfect by a long way, but at least it's there. Apologies for giving a rather rosier impression above!
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12 minutes ago, Dunsignalling said:
Hatton's will be much missed by many more than me.
The Trunk facility has been a godsend to those of us who order smaller items, allowing us to keep delivery charges under control. I do hope others steal the idea....
I've also bought pre-owned models on numerous occasions, at worst, they have matched expectations but most have exceeded them.
In all my dealings you have been a credit to yourselves and an example to the industry, and the hobby in general as to how business should be conducted.
My heartfelt good wishes for the future go out to all concerned in the business.
John Street
Perfectly put, in every respect, John.
Thank you, Hattons, it's always been a pleasure.
Pete T.
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29 minutes ago, AY Mod said:
I think it's absolutely superb
Having just had a good look around the pair that arrived here this afternoon and given them a quick run, I couldn't agree more. A lovely job.
Pete T.
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Surprised no-one's yet mentioned the well-known Riccarton Junction on the Waverley route, where the station together with the community clustered close alongside had no access other than by train.
Pete T.
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For your info, checking again just now, I can now load the Quad Art page correctly via the link as well as by going to the home page and following the menus, so it's all now ok for me (and I use Firefox as my browser).
Pete T.
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11 hours ago, thegreenhowards said:
I have noticed that my DCC locos run more slowly on my basic NCE powercab. Not a problem on a shunting or branch line layout, but for my 30’ roundy roundy and my garden O gauge, things were definitely too slow. I upgraded the power supply to 18V with one of these.
18V supply means about 16V at the track I believe, probably similar to what Tony has on LB. The difference was very marked, particularly on kit built locos and Heljan diesels in 0 gauge. They now run at what I’d call typical express speeds. This is definitely a worthwhile upgrade for any NCE Powercab users out there. I also have a 5amp booster, but the power supply made the bigger difference.
I'd second that. The upgrade to the 18V supply made a huge difference to the NCE Powercab for me, too.
Pete T.
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52 minutes ago, t-b-g said:
A good model of a fictional place requires the above plus imagination and design skills. You need to have a knowledge of how the real railway would do something if the real railway had been built.
To that I'd add a real ability and skill in translating real-life observations, even apparently insignificant details, into your fictional scene, without them looking twee.
Pete T.
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Dapol "O" gauge Terrier.
in Dapol
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@JeepyHi Jim,
The Drummond B4 chimney from Dapol arrived while we were away last week. I've just got around to comparing it to the one fitted to the model at the factory:
The diameter of the bottom of the Drummond chimney is 0.2mm smaller than the original (7.09mm vs. 7.29mm), while the spigot sticking out of the bottom that fixes it in the chimney base on the smokebox is 5.7mm on the Drummond and 5.15mm on the original chimney. Opening out the hole on the loco slightly does the trick and the Drummond chimney fits as a snug push fit.
The 0.2mm difference in diameter between the Drummond chimney and the chimney base on the smokebox wouldn't be noticeable were it not for the different black finish of the chimney (see photo). I'm happy to sort that out.
Pete T.