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  1. Possibly, although that still doesn’t make it particularly accurate; the same is true of the 1:150 used for Japanese N when modelling 3ft 6in prototypes (1:160 used for standard gauge high speed lines). The one that particularly confuses me is T gauge, which was developed in Japan and where you’d think they’d want the largest scale possible, yet it still scales to around standard gauge (1350mm in 1:450 scale, or about 4ft 5in - I don’t think the EMUs represented are of standard or 4ft 6in gauge prototypes). 1:90 may have been in reference to Japanese H0e.
  2. Was there a point to this? I have similarly heard it suggested that some Japanese H0 is more like 1:90...
  3. You could just edit the first post to change the title to ‘009 layout - now gone’ or similar. Good to see it’s found a new home.
  4. As in flipped left to right? I think some uploads to YouTube, Dailymotion etc. do this as it can’t be as easily (automatically?) picked up as copyrighted material.
  5. I knew some Trix wagons used 1:80 but wasn’t aware that the others did. A quick calculation suggests the accurate standard gauge track gauge in this scale would still need to be around 18mm...
  6. Getting slightly off-topic, but there was possibly a later opportunity to introduce RTR H0 for modern image British prototypes when a few manufacturers produced Eurostar class 373 sets in H0, and I recall a couple of articles/editorials after HS1 opened to St. Pancras suggesting that the prototype’s new link to the continental network could create problems with the use of a different scale for British-outline modelling (ignoring that the Night Ferry etc. and original CTRL had perhaps already presented similar dilemmas, albeit in a smaller way). However, scales divided by era rather than (as currently) location would probably be even more confusing, although some Australian railway modelling seems to involve something similar (although related also to the age of the model itself), possibly due to the former influence of British manufacturers and the current adoption of H0 because of the larger prototypes and similar stock seen elsewhere in the world.
  7. Although I think the price of the Kato/Peco Fairlie is still expected to be lower than the Roco one, while the smaller locos will fit in on more layouts. I think at the time it wasn’t just the high price but the lack of clarity from Roco about what the price might be (as well as other details) at the point when they wanted buyers to commit to it. In 009 the idea of modern, high-quality RTR did not even exist when Roco announced their Fairlie, although I’m slightly surprised that the quality of their H0e locos already owned by potential Fairlie buyers didn’t encourage people to sign up.
  8. Although of course this is a totally different project to the Roco one. The plan in this case to start with the smaller England locos may be a good idea and of course the 009 RTR market has massively grown in the intervening decade.
  9. Exactly, and thus the criticism levelled at Roco at the time that they hadn’t given enough detail about the specification, predicted price, which loco was to be modelled etc. The extremely specific prototype is perhaps less of an issue given that Heljan seems to have subsequently managed OK with its L&B locos although I notice Bachmann has chosen firstly the Baldwin and then quarry Hunslet, both useful in a relatively wide range of prototype contexts. Good to know about the Lilliput loco - do you know at what point it was withdrawn/cancelled? Also, do they confirm in the Modeller that it was to have been 3.5mm scale? On the subject of Lilliput, there U class model is now well-known but there was at one point to have been an Eggerbahn model of a similar loco (but I think a slightly different variant of the prototype). I can’t find any links for this but it was covered in one of Brian Meldon’s Eggerbahn history articles in 009 News.
  10. Not quite the same thing but there are also a few preserved locations with wagons on isolated lengths of track. There used to be one at Pickering (not sure if it’s still there) and none of the standard gauge track at the Conwy Valley Railway Museum is connected to the Blaenau Ffestiniog branch next door, although the stock presumably arrived by rail initially. Staying in North Wales, the Dinorwic and Penmaenmawr quarry systems have multiple abandoned narrow gauge wagons (the latter even has a steam loco abandoned), while elsewhere the Cromford and High Peak Railway still has the remains of a standard gauge wagon in what presumably used to be a trap for runaways on one of the inclines.
  11. I understand there was also a plan by Lilliput in the 1970s to produce RTR models of the W&LLR Beyer Peacocks, but these would have been H0e rather than 009. However, H0e is possibly an appropriate choice in this case given that the line is 2’ 6” gauge and features a lot of continental stock, some of which is already produced by Lilliput and others in H0e. I’d love to see more details of this proposal.
  12. I remember this being covered in 009 News at the time (which in itself suggests it was a year or two later than that, perhaps around 2009-10, as I didn’t join the Society until the very end of 2008). Some of the commentary there suggested that the choice of a rather unusual (if well-known) prototype was somewhat surprising for a first attempt at producing and marketing an RTR 009 loco, although I think it was at least confirmed that 4mm scale rather than H0e would have been used. Strangely, despite the more recent growth in RTR 009 and Roco’s previous and ongoing H0e expertise I’m not aware that they’ve looked at the British 009 market again. I can’t remember how far they got with the Fairlie. I think lack of trade interest was mentioned in the News at the time as well, and I wonder whether the success of the Bachmann and Heljan 009 items is partially because these manufacturers are more familiar to most mainstream British model railway retailers, while Roco has not really been involved in the British-outline market before.
  13. As shown here: https://thomasertl.fandom.com/wiki/Godred
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