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1 hour ago, Garethp8873 said:
Dropped the question about the GWR Macaws on Hornby's Facebook page and got a reply this morning.
Still listed on the website as being available to pre-order.
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On 13/04/2023 at 11:00, David Bigcheeseplant said:
I noticed the window was missing to the lamp/store room, it is not on the original plans either, but as a later addition was matched in quite well.
The attached photo shows the station after closure and demolition of the overall roof. yes the tree is still there, but the post box has gone.
I would suggest that this picture was taken post closure since the overall roof appears to be missing. Additionally, the far platform looks very overgrown.
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1 hour ago, 2ManySpams said:
The pictures below seem to be circulating widely on social media. Hope they can repair the coach, and that there were some unbroken bottles, not bothered by FS.
I have to say I find your lack of regard for FS rather childish. Whatever your personal views it IS historically important, a last survivor of a great class as well as one of far too few surviving LNER designs.
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50 minutes ago, Mallard60022 said:
Doesn't say much for the fitting of the fittings or the quality of the same? Storage of all this Booze so it fell like this, will be questioned.
The good things that will come from this is further advice and requirement to do things such as this, to a high standard.
Not just a jolly DIY Volunteer providing their time as a Volunteer perhaps?
The situation with the Locomotive though is a totally different situation and I'm not going any further than that as speculation on another thread ran rife because there was 'video evidence', and that thread fortunately got locked.
The Heritage Railway have already made a statement as to what's happening.
Phil
The 'storage' in the vehicle is more than adequate (I've travelled in it). There is a limit to what can be planned for and this was an extremely hard impact. It was lucky there weren't more serious injuries.
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On 30/09/2023 at 09:21, Nick Gough said:
Despite all the media hype, it's probably nothing more than a slightly bent buffer.
Having in the past seen results from collisions a lot softer than the Scotsman incident, I would think it likely that there has been some pretty bad damage to the tender & quite possibly the loco as well, to say nothing for the carriages.
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From memory I think there are some etched ballast hoppers available from Roxey for a p7 20 ton hopper & a 12 ton, but can't recall the diagram.
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On 29/12/2018 at 00:38, Tony Grumps said:
When I moved from 4mm scale to 7mm scale in the 1980's my ambition was to build a complete, representative train of the London & North Western Railway. I eventually decided on the inaugural 2pm Corridor train from London to Scotland which left Euston on 1st July 1893. My ambition was interrupted by a busy family life whilst also running a business, probably typical of many people with an obsessive hobby! The other interruption was that, typical of me, I also wanted to make other accurate carriages of the LNWR. The result is that I had about 25 carriages, some complete but many incomplete. I haven't previously entered any of my models in a competition but I was encouraged by the positive reactions I received when I posted photographs of my models on the LNWR Society Facebook group pages. I am now living in Portugal and many of my models have been donated to the LNWR Society. However, in the UK, my favourite models are stored away. When I realised this competition was purely based on photographs I decided to submit entries. Unfortunately there isn't a category for "train" i.e. Engine + Rolling Stock so I have attached a video of some of the carriages running at the Stevenage & District MRC, behind a Midland Railway 4-2-2 'Spinner'! This video was taken before my 3 locomotives were finished and thanks are due to Neal Cooper of S&D MRC for taking the video. The photographs which make up my total entry are therefore split into locomotives and carriages (sorry Judges!). At this point I should like to acknowledge the gentleman who first inspired me to start building LNWR carriage models. He is Trevor Wilkinson, formerly of Crawley Model Railway Society (of which my father, Brian Howarth, was a founding member). Trevor, being a very skilled lathe & machine tool operator with the Parker Pen company, built his own very beautiful 4mm LNWR locomotives. On one occasion he presented me with a metal 42ft carriage underframe that he had made and I built a cardboard body to complete my first LNWR carriage
Video: https://www.facebook.com/tony.grumps.7/videos/154233345561431/
THE LOCOMOTIVES
1) LNWR Webb 0-6-2T Coal Tank No. 158
This was the first model to be built of my current fleet of three. I decided on Number 158 because it was the only decent photo I found of a Coal Tank located near my home town of Stockport. The photo is in Ted Talbot´s book "LNWR MISCELLANY Vol 1" Plate 159. The kit was manufactured by Adrian Rowland of Northstar Models. At the time of purchase Adrian was about to retire. He informed me that he had two kits left, one being promised to a friend. So I bought virtually his last kit. It's a very decent kit. As I am NOT confident in building metal kits I commissioned my friends Geoff Brookes & Colin Tyler to build and finish it for me. They are members of Stevenage & District MRC. Geoff undertook the body build whilst Colin finished the model with the painting & lining. I had already built the chassis but John Cross of SOMERGOG compensated it to GOG standards (all wheels touching the track all of the time). It is the best runner of the 3 models having pulled 9 carriages or 30 wagons. Please note the cab roof was made deliberately removable for maintenance work but mainly to assist with locating the cab crew who are not yet in existence
2) LNWR Webb Teutonic Class Compound 2-2-2-0 "Jeanie Deans" No. 1304
This is the famous engine which pulled the 2pm Corridor from inauguration (and for many years) from Euston to Crewe and back. The kit is manufactured by Mercian and was again built by Geoff Brookes and painted/lined by Colin Tyler. The model is built in "as new" condition with long frames at the front, later reduced in length. Apart from authenticity I prefer the look of the longer frames
3) LNWR Webb Greater Britain Class Compound 2-2-2-2 "Scottish Chief" No. 526
Whilst I chose a model of a Greater Britain (kit manufactured by Taff Vale Models - formerly Dragon Models) it would have been more authentic to have modelled a John Hick Class (smaller driving wheels for the journey over the gradients between Crewe and Carlisle) but there wasn't a kit available at the time. Anyway, who knows whether a Greater Britain pulled the 2pm? Again, model built by Geoff Brookes and painted/lined by Colin Tyler
THE CARRIAGES
I have divided this section into two parts. The first part is to show the models of the West Coast Joint Stock. All but the last carriage would have run with the 2pm Corridor. The second part is for some of the LNWR domestic fleet carriages that particularly interested me. Each photo gives details of the respective carriages. I built each carriage from plasticard, brass, metal, wood: any material appropriate for the job in hand. The only proprietary parts are items such as gas lamp tops, buffers, wheels, etc. Where a carriage requires them, corridor connections have been built to work! Research was of course a very difficult area but by use of photos and known design / building practices it has been possible to make, in my opinion, accurate models. I used Microsoft Office Visio to create scale 2D drawings in order to iron out as many mistakes as possible before committing to pencil lines on the plasticard. As usual any mistakes are of my own making! Painting and lining was also fully undertaken by myself
WCJS Corridor Carriages
The first carriage in the photo is a WCJS 45ft x 8ft Corridor Full Brake to D80. One of the easiest models to make: only two windows!
WCJS 45ft x 8ft 6in Corridor Composite to D31
WCJS 50ft 6in x 8ft 6in Third Class Dining Saloon to P3 (1895 Diagram Book). This carriage is in the right foreground
It is incomplete because, apart from other small details, it isn't yet fitted with the ornate end vestibule frames. They were supplied
very kindly by Francis Pearce, another LNWR carriage builder and member of the LNWR Society
WCJS 42ft x 8ft 6in Corridor Composite to D54
WCJS 42ft x 8ft 6in Corridor Brake Third to D68. This carriage is in the left foreground
WCJS 30ft 1in x 8ft Parcel Sorting Van to D103. Third vehicle from the camera. Next to it is the LNWR 50ft Full Brake described below
LNWR Domestic fleet carriages
LNWR 50ft x 8ft Full Brake to D378
LNWR 42ft x 8ft Lavatory First (Club Saloon) to D106. I have agreed with Philip Millard, the recognised authority on LNWR / WCJS carriages, that my model more
truly represents this type of carriage by having a longlight window in place of the arrangement shown in the drawing in Philip's book "L&NWR Non-Corridor Carriages"
LNWR 30ft 1in x 8ft Picnic Saloon to D84. This model is incomplete as I have not yet added the end step under the far end lavatory
I knew Trevor fairly well in the late 70's early 80's as I did your father. I've often wondered what became of Trevors fine models. Do you perhaps know what became of them? When I knew him he seemed to have lost interest in modelling and was more involved with music.
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3 hours ago, CF MRC said:
Steaming would be a bit compromised with the blocked tubes…
Tim
And no smokebox! Also no blastpipe, blower etc.
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3 hours ago, The Fatadder said:
I was thinking much the same, I dont recall any particular accuracy issues regarding the Hornby model other than the colour of the green out of the box (which has been sorted on my 3). Never had an issue with the DCC fitting a decoder in the tender (not exactly a hardship to undo a couple of screws...) So it does feel a bit of a missed opportunity given the continued lack of a decent 57xx family, or if a tender freight engine was the requirement something like an Aberdare thats not been done RTR previously.
The firebox was too wide, particularly at running plate level. I thought it ruined the look of what could have been a very nice model.
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3 hours ago, The Fatadder said:
Is there anything actually wrong with the Hornby one (other than the colour obviously)? I was never aware of any material issues (and the colour on mine has been fixed / weathered (or in one case repainted in wartime black).
An Aberdare would have been my preference if they were after a freight engine (with a pannier / saint / county / bulldog also coming far above a new 2800)
Hornby got the firebox shape very wrong on their 28, presumably to accommodate their chosen motor. It spoilt what could have been a very nice model.
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On 05/05/2023 at 14:40, lezz01 said:
You know I always thought ploughing by traction engine a bit labour intensive. Instead of one man and 1 or 2 horses they needed two traction engines with crew and a ploughman driving the plough. So it had to cost the farmer more in wages to start with. I've never understood why they went there. It might have been a bit quicker but I've seen them do it and it wasn't that much quicker.
Regards Lez.
The increased number of people plus ploughing engine(s) meant a field could be ploughed in a fraction of the time it took by horse. It actually saved money & time. Farms rarely owned the equipment. They would hire the services of a ploughing company who would travel from farm to farm.
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On 29/04/2023 at 21:01, lezz01 said:
The problem with Ultrascale wheels is that they have nickel silver tyres and slip like mad on N/S track. The lead time and price is also not great.
Regards Lez.
Pendon uses ultrascale wheels almost exclusively and on NS rail. Their locos are often pulling long and heavy trains in the Vale scene which also has gradients off stage. No problems with slipping there.
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6 hours ago, gwrrob said:
Very nice too John, although the sides are no longer available and the prices on online auction sites reflect this.😟
Bettabitz are apparently with a new owner, so hopefully will re-appear.
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On 09/03/2023 at 12:08, MrWolf said:
A lot of the frames are listed as scrapped, fair enough, many are duplicates, but as we don't have the means in this country to make frames anymore, and scrap steel isn't worth much compared to the cost of making a frame, they might have been worth storing for possible future use.
ISTR the cab from the 9F just sitting outside in a yard up the road from the goods shed in Barry town.
We do have the means to create new frames. Tornado, Prince of Wales, beachy head, the Grange and 47xx are just a few of the recent builds. It would almost certainly be cheaper to build new than to repair in the unlikely event they were needed.
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16 hours ago, gwrrob said:
What a difference five years makes. Large prairie 4110 sitting at Kingswear looking down and out and here she is today before moving to the ESR . Her first season in service since leaving Barry scrapyard.
She isn't moving to the ESR, she's already there. It was the ESR who have undertaken the contract restoration for the owners at Paignton & Kingswear.
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I've just learned of the passing of Tony. For those unaware, Tony is the builder of some of the finest model locomotives ever built.
RIP Tony.
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29 minutes ago, DenysW said:
Rather harsh that. Conventional wisdom seems to be that the only way to experiment (within GWR) was to do it as part of a working locomotive. So if you want to explore more powerful boilers, they need to be attached to enough other gubbins to make it run as a locomotive. The non-railway company I used to work for was applying the same "you can experiment, but only if you are 100% sure it will work" philosophy up to the point I retired, a couple of years back.
Indeed. Churchward wanted to trial wide fireboxes. A Pacific was the logical platform. Having concluded that such a firebox offered no advantages with Welsh steam coal, the bear remained unique until withdrawn to be rebuilt as a castle class locomotive.
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3 minutes ago, LNER4479 said:
Meanwhile ...
Bit of a big job about to break out at the chapel
After nearly a year of waiting patiently (usual builders scenario) ...
Internal tie-bars going in. No great structural worries, more peace of mind than anything. Almost as importantly, will be a more practical structure to hang a better lighting arrangement from.
And some steel work! Its raison d'etre will become clear in subsequent posts (no pun intended).
Obviously, there's been a major clearance in the chapel to make space for this work. And it can only be done now. Once full scheme is set out, it'll be impossible to do work such as this.
Can't wait to resume work in earnest once these improvements have been completed😉
Mezzanine floor for Grantham 😉
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24 minutes ago, gr.king said:
Simplest answer: Track standards maybe compatible for 12mm gauge TT3, rest of modelling scale NOT compatible with TT3 because Hornby (Kohler) have decided to now do TT 1:120. I see no way that 3mm:1ft scale models can convincingly stand or run immediately alongside. or mixed up with, 2.5mm scale TT 1:120 models.
The beauty of TT1:120 is that it gives models with a true scale to gauge. A first in British outline rtr?
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3 hours ago, M.I.B said:
While the wait for a new RTR Saint continues...........Hornby bring out.............Castles again...........
I'm still a bit taken aback that after the completion of a new Saint at Didcot, nobody has released one in OO RTR.
Totally agree. The Churchward Saint is the most important development in the history of the UK steam locomotive of the 20th century. The benchmark upon which every design since can be traced. I find it inconceivable that aside from a rather poor 'toy' many years ago, it hasn't been represented rtr.
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3 hours ago, Neal Ball said:
Merry Boxing Day!
I’m looking forward to the 70ft builds….. but also looking forward to building / finishing the metro tank.
Interesting thank you…https://www.highlevelkits.co.uk/product-page/gwr-57xx-pannier
There is a big difference in price - £47 vs £20
https://www.wizardmodels.ltd/shop/locomotive/lcp22/
But in any case, if I did do the 57xx that is way in the distance.
Obviously, I need to see how I get on with the Metro tank first. I’ve never done a loco chassis before.
Interesting Rich thank you.I will have to phone Squires models about the Metro tank chassis in the New Year and take it from there.
There may be a price difference, but the HL kit includes a very nice gearbox and is far more detailed. Add the price of a gearbox to the Comet kit & the prices will be near enough the same.
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On 21/12/2022 at 09:06, Neal Ball said:
Back to the Metro tank for a second (Still no reply from Squires, which I think is poor customer service..)
I have therefore been looking at the Wizard models website - clearly, being in Spain its easier to do everything on-line for me. Both research and purchase, if I can get the details from someone's website then so much the better.
So many websites are rubbish (Squires), I could go on.... but I guess their main activity is at shows, which doesn't help me.
I have now drawn up a list of potential purchases to add into a shopping cart (although some items are out of stock).
However, probably the most useful thing was that I have downloaded the "Building loco chassis the Comet way" - it can be posted for £1.50 or downloaded for free.
Years ago I downloaded the similar booklet about carriage building - whilst I have clearly learned along the way - it was also this booklet that convinced me I could have a go.
Now reading the loco booklet, I also think I could give this a go. Years ago I would see adverts for the Comet 57xx chassis pack to go underneath a Bachmann body. Reading the instructions for this, I also think I could give this loco a go.
Essential items: (Comet) LS16: Frame spacer kit for £5.50 - if you buy a Comet kit, this is included. This might help you Phil @Harlequin with your Chassis kit for the Metro tank. In the "Building loco chassis" booklet it says about constructing on a piece of MDF - I would go with Mikes @Coach bogie suggestion about a piece of glass / Mirror.
I think this project will leap-frog a few others in the queue as we see into 2023
My only hesitation is fitting the motor / gearbox assembly into the space that I have - so many motor etc. seem to be out of stock. A Google search for Mashima DS10 has failed to come up with anything. The Wizard alternative seems to be a Canon 1620 motor with either a single or double stage gearbox.
Canon 1620 motor (1.5mm shaft) £27.00
(14.5mm wide x 16mm tall x 20mm long)
I would then add things like loco lamps into the shopping basket and brass whistles to replace the whitemetal ones. One of the rear loco steps was broken when I bought the loco, (Whilst I have glued it back on), Wizard have a set of Brass steps, which might be a better option.
In order to better see this loco to completion, I have just managed to find the GWR locos book Vol 1 second hand on-line. It is currently in transit.
To be continued!
Today I am making home-made Cranberry & Port sauce; Honey roasting some Almonds and I might even get time to glaze a carriage or two!
Have a good day.
Rather than using a comet 57xx chassis kit, you may want to consider looking at the high level models kit. These really are superb & the gearboxes are the very best. Extremely well designed, if you take your time & follow the instructions you'll almost certainly end up with a well detailed & lovely running chassis.
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On 16/12/2022 at 17:05, Neal Ball said:
Work continues at Henley-on-Thames, although I am having a minor diversion….
I recently found the pre-grouping layout Birmingham Bull Ring from @brumtb, which got me thinking about my 517 class 0-4-2T which I bought on eBay ages ago…. It’s on the ever lengthening “to do” list….
However, it’s a small Metro, not a 517…. Which means it is an 2-4-0T…. 🤣
The post-it note on the front says it “shorts” which after quite a bit of filing has been sorted. The feeds to the motor are insulated, so I should be ok to convert it to DCC. I need to source coupling rods, which I am hoping I can do through Squires. It’s a Wills Finecast kit.
I know very little about pre-grouping locos, so turned to: http://www.gwr.org.uk/no4-coup-tanks.html where there is a wealth of information.
However, my GWR Henley branch bible, shews two Metro tanks working the line circa 1930 nos 615 and 616. Both are of the full cab variety and have good side-on views.
Hopefully Squires can help with coupling rods, in which case it should be relatively straight forward to get it up and running. Although I will need to make up the outside brake linkage.
The model:
As close as I can get, my Metro will portray no 616….
I have now emailed Squires in Bognor Regis to ask if they have the right coupling rods and fittings to go into the wheels.
TBC.
If Squires can't supply, Alan Gibson do a 'universal' coupling rod etch that you can build a set of rods from.
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2 hours ago, St Enodoc said:
Thanks - good questions!
There's no MPD. Most of the locos will work back without much delay either on an Up express or double-headed on a branch passenger train. A few will be light engines and even fewer will be two engines coupled light. Tender locos will of course turn on the triangle at Treloggan Junction.
There's a short loco spur in the throat but that will only hold one or two locos at the most, one of which will normally be the station pilot. I have in mind to use the goods yard as an overflow for locos. As long as I have room for the coaches I think I can work around the loco question.
Time will tell!
Couldn't you say the loco facilities are a little way down the line & past the triangle? You could then work light engines to and from your small fiddle yard. This would also add operational interest.
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Small crocodile clips serve the dual function of locating and providing electrical contact.