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  1. Back again! Well, time has moved forward and so has layout progress and life. A much needed running session was had for YouTube in August, as well as several evenings of just letting the trains run. I scrapped the bridge that i had been building since Christmas and instead remade the structure from fresh 2mm Greyboard and used a few Slaters brick sheets to speed things up. This new bridge is based off the one at Charlton Marshall near Blandford Forum on the old Somerset & Dorset route, my version differing only slightly to the S&D architecture. I built it over the course of a few evenings and just need to airbrush it completely into a faded red before washing in the mortar work and dry brushing on the weathering. I have also wired up and superglued down all of my Train Tech signals, these working nicely. The Feather signal was too bright initially but I swapped the 1K resister on my homemade PCB for a 47K that I had stocked. This has taken the intensity out of it and brings it to no brighter than the individual aspects. I have suffered some light bleed from the yard exit ground signal but i am remedying this with filler. The lightbleed between aspects on the rest of the signals is liveable for the time being. All of the signals are powered by the 12v DC output of a Gaugemaster WM1 accessory power pack. The control panel was quite easy to make, 9mm Ply all panel pinned and PVA'd together with a 5mm Ply top, again pinned and glued. Track plan drawn on Microsoft Paint and printed on to A4 'sticker paper'. This was then stuck on using the paper's own sticky backing, cut around the wood to remove excess, and then covered with a single layer of stickyback plastic to protect it - again cutting round the wood with a craft knife. I will at some point paint the sides and the controller stand too. Other than these, I have been busy on the workbench, having put 5 of my BDA’s and two OCA wagons through the IPA jars. The OCA’s were in Railfreght red but are to go into a heavily weathered ‘Dutch’ livery, while 4 of the BDA’s will become MXA’s and the remaining 5 that I have will return to a mix of Railfreight and EWS. I have scratchbuilt the crane module and airbrushed the chassis of the JZA manipulator wagon, with all turned parts now fitted and painted. All that needs doing now is airbrushing of the crane module and the parts for separate fitting, and then making the roof. The transfers for the wagon have already been designed. I have very recently moved house, albeit locally. The layout has not come with me and will remain with family. I will be back a few times a week to do some bits, but until I’m established in the new place – most of the benchwork will grind to a halt. That’s all for now!
  2. August Update: Its been a busy year so far but a lot of work has been done behind the scenes. The Osprey wagons have all been completed, with the 3D printed stanchions painted and in place on Cambrian salmons. Four of the five salmons have become Ospreys, with the final wagon modelled as a YSA salmon with steps. After some running in, its fair to say that these will remain static in the yard as they haven't taken too kindly to the pointwork at the station throat. Derailment has been commonplace in shunting and main line running - also a factor of the lack of weight that the models have. Nevertheless, they look the part. Other than this, the gantry crane wagon for the welded rail train has come on leaps and bounds. Very little trial and error compared to the porpoise due to the number of reference points available from the donor KFA in comparison with pictures of the real thing. Although most of the works have been from various styrene strip, sheet and rodding. Hydraulic cylinders were initially trialled in styrene rod but it was far too fiddly. 2mm Brass rod turned on my miniature lathe provided a suitable substitute. A few other parts were also turned on the lathe, including the large guide wheels and the crane arm columns, column bushes and pivots, these being turned from 5 and 10mm Aluminium respectively. The lathe was invaluable for turning these components and to such tight tolerances of 0.02mm in some cases, a challenge even on a miniature machine. Once i'd made a start on the crane itself and it ran along the wagon problem free (yes you read that correctly), I then fitted the base hydraulics and airbrushed the base into a single coat of Railtrack Buff Enamel. This came out nicely and I fitted the 8 wheels (pre-primed in Humbrol 90 and painted in MiG medium rust acrylic paint) with superglue. I then touched up all the rollers on the wagon with MiG old rust. Other than this, I have started stripping my BDA's of the Osprey/Salmon paint schemes ready to receive the MXA boxes. For the time being, I have given up with resin casting the MXA boxes. The previous fast cure PU resin i was using had a pot life of about 3 minutes and i have bought some slower curing resin to have a go with. I have also bought some more styrene strip for the ribs, so i can scratch build the boxes instead of casting them if I give up for good. Anyway, that is where the workbench stands at this time.
  3. Having just looked at my Dapol HIA, that Touax HOA is near identical. The only differences being the bogies and the inwards bodyside notching having support at either end instead of an additional two on the HIA. A quick once over with a dremel and needle file set, a respray and new transfers would make it fit in with a rake of these Revolution HOA's when they come around. Dapol doing another HIA production run has me debating whether to do this in advance of the release. I could add to the above table of destinations, Hamworthy was also served periodically up until 2018 by Mendip boxes. Though, I think I can justify a mix of hoppers and boxes..
  4. With hindsight, one could say that the Yeoman wagons being booked on the Ever Given would ensure both models are released around the same time regardless of production delays. After all, those wagons wont move themselves out of the fiddle yard Now, where's that link I had for the Cairo Bizarre...
  5. As per the usual, I'm back after a few months! On the layout I have furthered the heathland static grass around the sand/grit paths to just forward of the main line signal positions. I did manage to have a small running session for one evening in mid May - I must have felt unwell as I felt like watching the trains go by! For the rest of the time if I wasn't out with friends or doing college work, I was sat at the workbench beavering away at bits of styrene and making them turn into a JZA manipulator wagon. I spent a week and a half in the garage on my miniature lathe producing turnings for the wagon as they were either impractical to 3D print or impossible to produce from plastic welding small bits of rod. I've pictured the brass Hydraulic rams and the aluminium deployment wheel turnings. The rams are less then 2mm in diameter. Currently I have halted that project as I re-organise my desk. The computer & screen that took up half of the desk has gone and a new Laptop (to which I type from) replaces it. I now have space for more of the Hobbyzone modular storage units, with two 300mm units in the post from an ebay seller. I have noticed that with Brexit, Hobbyzone no longer serve the UK as a shipping destination. For the last bit of space, I'll reverse engineer the boxes from different thickness MDF and changed internal box design. The laptop sits in front of them with plenty of space, increasing the useable work area by 100% when the laptop isn't out. I did transfer over all the worthwhile documents, so all of the YEA transfers and JZA component CAD's are still alive and kicking. I have also completed the Cambrian Ospreys that I started at the turn of the year, with my own 3D printed stanchions. In the end i settled on 4x Ospreys and 1x YWA Salmon rather than 5x Ospreys just for the operational interest. Without a doubt, i will probably tackle some more of these kits for more Ospreys and Salmons. No more progress on the MXA's and resin casting them as I'm trying to thin the list of ongoing projects I have. I've also scrapped the idea of selling excess castings, with the master copy and moulds "shelved" for the time being. About 4 weeks ago, I bit the bullet when I saw another Nuclear Flask being sold on Facebook and a new tool Class 20 along with it. I had been reluctant to buy a 20 but for the price, at £200 all inclusive, it was a no brainer... so the modern twist to the long gone Winfrith - Gloucester spent nuclear fuel train has been completed.
  6. Good luck getting ahold of them if you have to buy new ones. I waited five to six weeks for Eileens Emporium to complete my order of 4, with Alan Gibson wheels. Considering I ordered only 1 salmon back in December, i think this whole c*ck up has seen Cambrian raking it in.
  7. Interesting. I’m nearly there with my 2nd Gen LWRT in OO and I spent a long time looking for suitable rail loads. Recently found Protoloads in the USA do ribbon rail, I have some 255ft of it being imported, made from extruded styrene and approx Code 80 in size. It’s expensive stuff having spent £210 inc shipping and I’ve found no other place that manufactures it. Also, the Perch as a base opens a lot of doors given the Snow and Ice treatment trains plus many other wagons use ex-BR Perch’s as a base. Whether it be old 1st Gen LWRT’s, SITT’s or other on track plant and wagons.
  8. Update on the MXA boxes and Osprey Stanchions: (copied and pasted from my workbench thread) Last night I received the laser cut pattern boxes and plates, so I spent yesterday evening making them. Made from 5mm Perspex and to my own specification, they should be robust to last a good few years and will save me a lot of time and effort in preparation work. These have been superglued together for the time being. The pattern plates have been cut to take a 0.3mm clearance. I need to order the Aluminium plate and round bar that will be used to make the ejection rig. Anyway, I've taken a few pictures of the two mould boxes sizes to give an update as to where I'm at. I plan to pour the first silicone half tonight. I have also received the Osprey Stanchion samples and I'm rather pleased with how they have turned out. These are printed in 3 parts, with 5 required for each wagon. I have lined the samples up against less accurate scratch built versions from about 18 months or so ago, using what I had at the time. Unlike the MXA box, I have not quite yet prepared any samples for an initial resin cast. That's all for now.
  9. Update on the MXA boxes and Osprey Stanchions: Last night I received the laser cut pattern boxes and plates, so I spent yesterday evening making them. Made from 5mm Perspex and to my own specification, they should be robust to last a good few years and will save me a lot of time and effort in preparation work. These have been superglued together for the time being. The pattern plates have been cut to take a 0.3mm clearance. I need to order the Aluminium plate and round bar that will be used to make the ejection rig. Anyway, I've taken a few pictures of the two mould boxes sizes to give an update as to where I'm at. I plan to pour the first silicone half tonight. I have also received the Osprey Stanchion samples and I'm rather pleased with how they have turned out. These are printed in 3 parts, with 5 required for each wagon. I have lined the samples up against less accurate scratch built versions from about 18 months or so ago, using what I had at the time. Unlike the MXA box, I have not quite yet prepared any samples for an initial resin cast. Thats all for now
  10. I believe Cav has 3D printed a Perch in N, though his thread hasn’t been updated since 2016. I’ve built a Porpoise in OO and am currently in the process of finishing the stabling wagons and scratchbuilding the manipulator gantry. Dapol did announce welded rail wagons of a sort before the 2010 management change, along with MLA wagons but these never materialised. I have had the MLA on AutoCAD for a while, waiting for covid to pass so I can get some dimensions.
  11. Indeed, Cambrian make their own bogies however Tim has outsourced the pattern making so is only involved in the production. I don’t know if he made the master as I’m not involved. Without WW having their own bogies to offer, they can only suggest the closest alternative, right or wrong. Tim has sold out on his first batch so I can’t say whether they’re good or not, as I don’t model the areas his products are used in.
  12. I don’t know too much about Tim’s work as I’m not associated with WW, though I am a good friend of his. All I can say is that Tim as a keen modeller has attempted to recreate the wagon and chosen the resin/silicone moulding route as production. From what I’m aware of, he runs WW in his spare time and had stated from the outset that he would be providing the wagon as a raw kit, no different to Cambrian in that respect.
  13. Tim has begun selling his IHA's and I believe they are quite popular. I don't believe he is on RMweb but I'm certain he has contact information on the Waterside Wagons facebook page which is searchable via google without a facebook account. Jordan
  14. Its now February and things have moved on a bit! I have on block release to college from work for the lase three weeks, however due to the lockdown this is all now remote from home. It has had its benefits especially when using my old commute time for extra modelling activities. The mould in the last upload from the 10th of January was not successful and I have shelved the exercise to resin cast salmon parts, mainly due to allocating resources elsewhere. More to come on that later. 3D Printed YSA/YKA Osprey Stanchions: I mentioned these in late December 2020 and since then, they are currently sat with my commissioned studio for 3D printing. The initial samples quote for just 8 wagons worth was more expensive than expected, however that does not necessarily rule out a production run. It may just require a change of production method. I have attached some conceptual imagery on a base made to look like an Osprey. More on that when I receive the samples. Resin Cast MXA Boxes: Something I mentioned in the last update was the plans to convert my Ospreys into MXA's as they were based on Bachmann BDA's as 3cm to short donor wagons. With a lack of dimensions publicly available for the boxes, I put my Welded Rail Train skills of trial, error and a metric tonne of photographs in to action. It was a relatively simple build, with dimensions based on a Bachmann BDA, with box overhangs and height/spacings proportioned from photographs. For a 'rivet counter' such as myself, I'd consider it as close as I'll get! Well... I might have made more than one attempt... MXA box sales Anyway, I produced the one box to save my precious plastic sheet and strip. I will be using this box as a master so I can resin cast the 7 boxes I need. The silicone moulds will have a life-span of 50-60 castings before they start to perish, so there is scope for these to be saleable. I may even tool a second mould if they prove popular, though I would only sell these as raw castings. Mainly as I lack the appropriate facilities to conduct batch painting, as well as keeping costs minimal and affordable. More on this when my laser cut mould containers are picked up and the silicone casting commences. Cambrian Salmons I have purchased the first of two batches of 4x Cambrian Salmons for Osprey conversion, though these will most likely take a while to arrive as the Flangeway ready to run Salmons have just landed are in the middle of a catastrophic under-size scandal. With the return of these models and lots of Cambrian orders placed, I'm not expecting the salmons to arrive any time soon. The Bachmann BDA's I had previously resprayed into Salmons are now going through a jar of IPA to strip all the paint, fresh for respray into MXA's. The first model will probably be complete some time around early March to showcase the first MXA and the quality of the castings as well as how well they take paint. Thats all for now. - Jordan
  15. I'm not forgetting anything considering that I would not make such a comment without living in such a way you state. I built a highly detailed wagon from scratch whilst doing rotational shift work as a fitter, adding overtime and college work to that. It used to be chaotic, hot and extremely busy, and with the fatigue that used to set in it was very much a "do I really want to do it" attitude when an hour of spare time came about. It took me a full year from start to finish under such conditions, and if I can do it with an hour here and there... don't tell me it can't be done. There will always be ready to run products but that should not make people shy away from kits and scratch building like it is.
  16. It may seem that way Shane. As humans, we are naturally lazy and I feel as if this has fuelled a ready to run reliance. It may be a controversial view but I find that there would be much more kit and scratchbuilding if there wasn't a reliance on ready to run products. I couldn't scratch build 20 months ago, but self taught and I'm there now. Its all about willing, something again that is down to human nature. Its why I personally don't buy the 'I cant scratchbuild' argument unless medical records dictate.
  17. Well February is here and surprise, a bit more has been achieved. I've been at home for a fortnight now on block release from work to do virtual college, so I've had that an hour or two extra a day for research, organisation and bits here and there. 3D Printed YSA/YKA Osprey Stanchions: Although I mentioned these in a previous update and one CAD has been seen on my workbench thread (do check it out if you haven't already), these have progressed significantly and are currently sat with my commissioned studio for 3D printing. The initial samples quote for just 8 wagons worth was more expensive than expected, however that does not necessarily rule out a production run and may require a change of production method. More on that when I receive the samples. Resin Cast MXA Boxes: Something I had wanted to do for a little while now was make some MXA's for the layout. With a lack of dimensions publicly available, I put my Welded Rail Train skills of trial, error and a metric tonne of photographs in to action. It was a relatively simple build, with dimensions based on a Bachmann BDA, box overhangs and height/spacings proportioned from photographs. For a 'rivet counter' such as myself, I'd consider it as close as I'll get! Well... I might have made more than one attempt... Anyway, I produced 1 box which sits nicely on my cut-down BDA. To save my precious plastic sheet and strip, I will be using this box as a master so I can resin cast the 7 boxes I need. The silicone moulds will have a life-span of 50-60 castings before they start to get tired, so there is scope for these to also be saleable. I may even tool a second mould if they prove popular, though I would only sell these as raw castings. Mainly as I lack the appropriate facilities to conduct batch painting, as well as keeping costs minimal and affordable. More on this when my laser cut mould containers are picked up and silicone casting commences. More Static Grassing: Well, the large sand bank next to the cutting bridge is no more. It would seem that the vegetation of the heathland has overgrown it! A bit of The Range's burnt umber as an earthy base coat, followed by a selection of 4 and 6mm grasses from War World Scenics formulated into my own heathland mix. Some Woodland Scenics scatters and hey presto Heathland expanded! I also static grassed some of the yard cutting on this side, along with overgrowing the cess. 2 and 4mm grasses were used for the lusher areas, again using woodland scenics scatters to form the plant leaves and give a variation in tone of the growing plants. It is missing those pesky brambles but I will add them in at a later time. YSA/YKA wagon project reversal? What Happened? With commencement of the MXA boxes, it dawned on me that my use of Bachmann BDA's to make Ospreys was indeed flawed. Although to most this wouldn't matter, I've decided to scrap my BDA-YKA/YSA's. With the 3D printing of the stanchions, my scratch building efforts of the same pieces 18 months previous would be inferior to the CNC manufactured versions, so I've chosen to let these go and I currently have my resprayed BDA's in a jar of IPA being stripped. I have ordered 4x C88 kits from Cambrian, though this has been caught up in the Flangeway Fiasco, where their RtR salmons being subject to trial by RMweb over a catastrophic tooling error scandal. Many are being returned and Cambrian stockists flooded with orders. So that could take a while! It gets more ineresting... The BDA's were re-bogied with Cambrian ASF's when i converted them, using the Bachmann wheels and cutting the NEM socket holders off of the bogie for gluing to the ASF's.... The plan is to use the existing ASF's for the Salmons when they arrive, swapping the Bachmann wheels for some Alan Gibson ones recommended by Cambrian. All I will need to buy are half a dozen pairs of wheel-less Bachmann BDA bogies and NEM sockets if not included. I do have a habit of complicating things! That's all for now - Jordan
  18. Well this thread has become rather lively since last kept tabs on it half a week ago! Just a notice for all that are considering the Cambrian kit route. I placed an order for 4x C88 Salmons late last week through Eileens Emporium of Gloucester (as I had intended to before this release) and I was emailed the following day that I am over 100 in the queue for that Cambrian product alone. When I ordered, the stock level was 2! So if anyone has ordered or is planning to order Cambrian Salmons of any product, please be patient with Stockists as Cambrian now have a rather massive work load on, and that is without taking delays through Covid and raw material sourcing into consideration. Jordan
  19. I've got some mould boxes I'm getting laser cut at the moment from 5mm Perspex, along with pattern plate inserts for these. I'll be sure to make another post once these are assembled. The way i have produced mine is by the good old double sided tape. I stuck mine to the bottom of the greyboard (same as what ill do on the pattern insert plates) and sprayed Macwax over it before casting the silicone first half. Macwax is essentially a wax based aerosol release agent. I just follow the instructions and usually all is well. Its the stuff we use at work as well so I can vouch for it over talcon powder. Depending on how you plan to make your second half, it may be worth taking the master out (if you have detail notches that can be used to retain the pattern again) giving it a wash with a toothbrush to get rid of any tape residue, putting it back into the mould, Macwax-ing it all and then pouring the second half. This is the approach i have planned to take. I would also recommend the use of rubber bands to hold the mould together or quick release clamps and pair of small wood sheets to prevent excessive flashing and leakage.
  20. It is very easily done. Especially in the times when you're busy with numbers in your head and all of a sudden "I've brought you a cup of tea" comes out of the blue. I can't be the only one to admit that's happened. It is entirely possible that the same factory could have been used. However, you could say that its a game of roulette with whoever does produce it, as its the capital available in the budget that dictates what facilities can be afforded. The only thing the factory is involved in to do with the tooling is machinery parameters. As an example, there's no point tooling around an X21 model machine when the factory upgrades to L13 model machines with different tool mounting positions. Those machine types are entirely fictional just for the purpose of the example, though you can fit adaptor plates if you tool around a small machine and newer machines are larger. As is the case with some Disa 'A' plates we still have, little things, putting them on plate adaptors to fit onto our Disa 'X' machines. I haven't heard anything bad about the build quality so we can rule out a Hattons or Heljan phenomenon.
  21. I don’t wish to sound like the tradesman that ends up picking out the flaw on a forum such as RMweb and getting known for it, however I am critical of the attention to detail that occurred during the development process in the sense that 10 seconds with a steel rule has outdone what appears to be several years of hard work and development, with major cost implications to the manufacturer. When we receive new tooling, we always check dimensions from the datum (always the joint face on our tooling) against a set of re-validation sheets and the casting drawing. In this case, the tooling should be checked against the tooling CADs if no reval sheet exists, and also against the casted product specifications to determine clearance/interference.... etc to ensure the CNC shop has not incorrectly made the tooling. The tooling should always be whatever the product material’s shrinkage percentage is larger than it needs to be so that the product is made the correct size through contraction from liquid to solid. When receiving the first engineering samples of the product, these should also be checked against relevant drawings etc to make sure no faults are found. I do not wish anyone to think that I am writing this to create slander, as I am sure that Flangeway/Footplate have done everything correctly when it comes to procedure. I am just highlighting my working procedures as a tooling and pattern maker to assist those who may not be in the know to better understand what goes into toolmaking. I am in agreement with @Dungrange on his point about potential incorrect scaling in the CAD phase being down to this. It’s impossible to know if anything physical is incorrect if the drawings were incorrect from the start. These things do happen though and I’m sure it will all be sorted out soon.
  22. If you're still planning on converting some Ospreys but from Cambrian's C88 kits Mark, I have initial samples of the middle stanchion and end trusses being 3D printed at the moment. I plan on running a production batch around Feb/March time providing the samples come back good. If they would help, I will be posting updates in my workbench thread.
  23. If 20mm is missing from the Salmon, that would make it no more than an over-length BDA. I've stuck to the Cambrian kits as £50 per model is a bit steep just to strip, respray and modify it into an Osprey. I don't doubt your findings, but being a toolmaker apprentice I can't imagine a tooling error as catastrophic as being 20mm out given the precision measuring equipment such as a Stiefelmayer that are available today. If the tooling had been made to the exact 60ft specification (measuring solebar length) then the tooling would be wrong anyway. Given Flangeway are experienced in manufacturing from the Snowplough, it does question what happened with your example. Tooling is always made larger than the model to counteract the contraction rate of the metal as it solidifies. On the assumption that the production material was a Zinc based white metal alloy as is common in the hobby, the tooling would have to be 2.5% larger. And even if the tooling was to wagon spec of 240mm on the solebar, -2.5% would only make the model 6mm under size. I'm very intrigued.
  24. Your Osprey thread was the initial inspiration for converting my BDA's to Ospreys and Salmons in the beginning. Those stanchions took a long time to make! I have enough for 8 wagons currently being 3D printed. It is great how all these ex-BR departmental wagons are being re-used in such a way that they are the backbone of track renewals with the exception of the FEA and KFA flats that are now popping up with modular decks of course.
  25. Thanks Andy. Surprisingly I didn’t use a dremel but now you mention it, I do have a dremel! I did it rather crudely using a Stanley knife about a year or so ago in an attempt to make some Ospreys. I’ve managed to get ahold of some Cambrian bits so I’ve re-purposed the BDA’s. The three Ospreys I’ve made will be recycled as well, the scratchbuilt stanchions being replaced by 3D printed ones. It wasn’t that difficult to take the sides down, though the smell of plastic was very strong and overwhelming at times. I’ve got a BDA in IPA being stripped ready for going into DB red for the first casting samples.
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