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If you're intention in mid 30s Southern era. The modernisation that the Southern were undertaking would have seen a combined MPD rather than 2 completely seperate MPDs, 2 sets of facilities as this would have been an extra cost and maintenance worry. More connections between either side of the station would have been added as the electrification along the Brighton was completed in 1929. So you could have one side electrified and one side non electrified.
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Also, you would have had to change the ETH/ compressor fusing to accommodate a Cl 50 working a TC set as they were fused for 750v, for use with 33s and EDs rather than the 1000v Cl 50s.
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Felt very underwhelmed by the whole thing. The only layout that kept any interest was Brinklow as it was all about keeping trains moving for the people to see. All to often do you see layouts being run to what feels like a Sunday service in winter.
I think if you're going to have box shifters like Kernow and Rails in the show they can't be opposite each other which drastically reduced what was already tight aisle space.
Would I go again? Probably not, maybe if I am in the area at the time.
I will say the venue is far better than Gaydon as suggested above the rabbit warren type layout of Gaydon didnt help.
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On the SVR this week we have the only full LMS set of coaches running alongside our Gresleys with the Toplights/ bowend set on a charter and a set of colletts + 1 hawksworth out on a footplate experience later in the week. We couldnt survive without our pre nationalisation coaches. It should be noted that a few of our Staniers are actually BR built.
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I will post a warning if people look at the SVR's Period 3 roofs. Some of them have weld lines about 12-18 inches up from the gutter line. This is where to roof has been cut to allow repairs to the top stringer and corner posts. Although there are BR era repairs in the same style on a couple of our coaches.
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As the person who has spent the first 6 months of this year rebuilding the kitchen area of LMS 149 at the Severn Valley. The interior is a birch and walnut colour with chrome luggage racks/ table lamps and other fittings. At the kitchen end, the corridor past the kitchen was separated from the vestibule by a inward swing door. The shelve units behind the counter started at knee height up to the top stringer height above the window. with shelves all the way up.
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You could always use a piece of wood the same sort of size to protect the edge from breakout as you cut.
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Id go with matt black. On the internal side it would be an off white colour which would have been scratched and beaten by item inside. The external side of the door would have scuff marks from the draught excluders running horizontally.
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4 reversals in one trip. More like a BLS trip than a public service. Surely on a Saturday a head on move via Romsey and Southampton could have been done?
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I had to mutilate some Bachmann MK 1's to get at the weights so it is useful to know that 0.5 mm wire is suitable as a replacement. A related question is what colour are they. The bacchie ones are black and the Hornby moulded ones are the roof colour, which is correct?
Black to roof line and then roof coloured to the filler pot.
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So not a huge amount done this weekend, except to make and add a couple of speed restriction signs.
50 mph speed restriction when leaving station limits
25mph speed restriction when entering the bay platform
15mph speed restriction for entering the goods loop.
I think they are placed prototypically, they seem to be rather elusive in photographs from the period.
I doubt you would have a 25mph entry speed into a bay platform. Station limits would apply and maximum speed would be around 10- 15 mph.
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And here's a classic example - a BR MK1 3-set in crimson and cream strengthened for the summer months with two Bulleid seconds in green...
https://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Trains-Railways-British-Isles/SR-and-BRS/SR-4-4-0s/i-vx7whLs/A
They may well be loose coaches as previously mentioned. I doubt they would have broken up other sets to strengthen others.
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I doubt that many coaches, if any, went from crimson and cream straight to dark green. By my 'spotting days' in 1962 I don't recall ever seeing a crimson and cream coach in a Southern express. Everything was uniform green. By the time that 'dark green' would have appeared, the SR had had autonomy to apply green for at least 8 years and they weren't slow to do so. And in those days, flat undercoats were used to blot out the previous colour. It would not have been accepted practice to use a top coat shade to block out what was underneath. (CJL)
As I understand it. The Southern region would send a complete set to either Lancing or Eastleigh and it would all be repainted at the same time. The loose coaches were done at their shopping date hence the possible mix of liveries.
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I don't know if it is related at all to the vandalism of the coaches (or maybe just as a protection against frost) but as I passed the diesel depot at Kiddy today on one of the workings I noticed some of the diesels had tarpaulin covers over them.
Nothing to do with it at all. They have all been winterised.
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You certainly find all the drop joints with 1501. It wouldn't surprise me if this could have been a 94xx working along with 51xx.
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Wouldn't be any trouble for a 15xx. Assuming it is going OWW to Honeybourne then up through Stratford Upon Avon. Plenty of watering holes along the way. It probably is a rarity to use one of a longer distance stopping service. More than likely it has been used because of a failure to the booked loco.
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The 66, Biomass hoppers and the shark were a management charter for GBRF. It was very different working with LMS and LNER coaches either side of these things. If you think some coaches are big. These hoppers are rather large.
The 66, Biomass hoppers and the shark were a management charter for GBRF. It was very different working with LMS and LNER coaches either side of these things. If you think some coaches are big. These hoppers are rather large.
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Not sure if this is the correct place for this request but as it's related to the SVR here goes.
Does anyone have a copy of the WTT for the 2017 Diesel Gala that they no longer require?
I've never been to the SVR, shame on you I hear you all say, but I would like to know how they operate the line under Gala conditions and the WTT seems the ideal source of information.
Here's hoping.
Nigel
What information on "operating the railway under Gala conditions" do you need? The railway is operated as normal but using every possible passing point/ path.
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Hi Liam
AB stock hired in for the modern locos to haul - Came up from Long Marston I think
Phil
The air braked Mark 2s (Only Mark 2s, no Mark 3s) came from various sites but are owned by Eastern Rail Services.
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Simple answer to the WoE problems. Rather than continue to add loops. Re double the whole length fron Salisbury.
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I'm not sure whether its the angle of photos taken but the body does look to be sitting quite high?
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The Bluebell must have to host diesel galas because there are not many other railways which can do so.
Geoff Endacott
I can't make out what you are trying to say with this statement?
Most preserved railways run a diesel gala. Some combine it to make a mixed traction weekend. Although I am surprised at the Bluebell playing host to 4 Deltics.
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I've just bought the Bachmann Brick Servicing Depot which seems to be based on the Dinting shed and it has inspired me to build a small diorama based on the Railway Centre as it was in the 80s when I used to occasionally visit it. So I'm just trying to compile a list of the long term exhibits and so far my research has come up will the following.
Bahamas 5596 Jubilee 4-6-0 (Now on the Battlefield Line)
Leander 5690 Jubilee 4-6-0 (Now at Carnforth)
J94 Warrington WD 150 0-6-0 (Now at Peak Rail as Royal Pioneer)
Barclay 0-4-0 2258 Tiny (Now at KWVR)
GCR 8K 2-8-0 63601 (Un-restored) (Now at GCR)
LNWR Webb Tank 0-6-2 1054 ( (Now at KWVR)
Hudswell Clarke 0-6-0 1704 Nunlow (Now at KWVR)
Baguley Cars/McEwan Pratt 'Jacob' 0-4-0 680 (Now at Beamish)
Crane Tank 'Southwick' 7069 (Now at KWVR)
Avonside RS8 0-4-0 Shunter (Diesel Conversion) (Currently being rebuilt by Andrew Briddon)
SR Queen Mary Brake Van 56287 (Now at Bluebell Rly)
Cravens Steam Crane (Now at KWVR???)
I know that they also had some famous guest locos such as Sir Nigel Gresley and Blue Peter, but are there any long term exhibits that I've missed off my list, especially any of the coaches, wagons or other oddball items?
I think the BLS might be confused at this. 45596 is most definitely a KWVR engine. The loco itself is at Tyseley being overhauled. 63601 isnt "Un-restored" more of boiler ticket awaiting a decision on its future.
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Joan of Ark was burnt at the stake for less than that! 4 Deltics on the Bluebell? The old guard must be rolling in their graves!
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Slowly but surely that set of coaches is being restored/ repainted. Leading brake is 6562 which has not long been outshopped, then comes 9615, which is being totally reframed, then 9627 as the dining open. 4 SKs 1116, 2119,1086 and 1087 (I think) then the much missed Clapham buffet (bar car), what looks like 5883 and then 2 composites one of which would be 7284 but not quite certain on the other one. Out of all those coaches only 4 are non runners at this time. Not bad for nearly 30 years on from these photos.