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  1. Does anybody have the dimensions of the G6 and G5 1/2 boilers please?
  2. Any drawings of the wheel arrangements, i.e. spacings?
  3. Set about making such a loco once but made it overly complicated by using the back end of a Fowler 2-6-4t and made a hash of it so gave up.
  4. I'm not sure the firebox on the 2-6-2 is in proportion to the boiler, it looks very undersized. I'm curious to know more about the class 4 however. I was aware of an LMS proposal for a small 4-6-0 for a Scottish line but I think that was meant to be a class 2.
  5. It wasn’t just a British obsession. The Japanese and Americans had lots of electrics using similar wheel arrangements and I’m pretty sure there were a good many locomotives like that in Europe to. Parts of the commonwealth had plenty as exported by British companies. The proliferation of them suggests they either had a valid application to overcome some engineering problem or they were all that was known at the time. We know the latter isn’t the case so there must have been a valid engineering reason for them. I notice the electrics tend toward the 4 wheel leading bogie so I’m guessing that was a speed related thing, in much the same way 4-6-0’s and 4-6-2’s are considered to run smoother than 2-6-0’s and 2-6-2’s at speed.
  6. English Electric main line diesel locomotives of British Rail by Brian Webb, part of the Davis & Charles locomotive studies series.
  7. Interesting proposal from the LMS Fairburn era powered by a 16SVT rated at 1600hp. It’s the same weight as a 31with more power and a similar wheel configuration in that there are 4 powered axles and 2 carrying axles.
  8. I was discussing this topic with my old man, who suggested BR would have done better to design and build its own locos in house, using the best bits of what was available, in much the same way they did with the class 56 and HST. I countered that they were able to do that with the benefit of a lot of hindsight and experience and that BR’s early homebuilt locos were no better than the rest of the assorted collection, except that the 37 seems to have been sound in every respect except that BR didn’t like nose ends. min fact it was BR insistence on the 1Co bogies that hindered the early type 4’s.
  9. Because as a modelling venture I would feel the need to commit to one or the other versions of history.
  10. I have considers this many a time, but I find I stumble across two barriers. Firstly if need to work out all the details and know all the classes in ‘my alternate reality’. Secondly, and more importantly, I kind of like a lot of what we ended up with and can’t fine a way reconcile the two.
  11. The bogies on the Hymeks were of traditional diesel bogie construction and could have taken electric traction motors.
  12. I don't think it's too much of a stretch to see the LNER doing a similar concept, or at least BR, even as early as the 50's. If you look at the LNER concept, it's effectively a single unit two engine locomotive, and in the case of the second version has a cab at each end. Surely it's not that much of a stretch to use the front half of the design only and place one at each end of the formation.
  13. The lower drawing does appear to have another cab at the rear/flat end so it is entirely possible that LNER had foreseen the need to turn these and provided an additional cab by this time to make that, and shunting moves down onto a train formation, easier by provision of an additional driving cab. In much the same way as GMD offered the option of a hostlers cab on it's F and E units, some of which, were mid-loco, but others were at the rear end of what would be a fixed loco consist such as the original drawbar connected FT (A+B as a single unit much like the LNER concept).
  14. They end in /034 and /036 so you could be right but zooming in, the top drawing appears to have a 45' date and the one below is harder to read but seems to end in a 8. As much as I can read the number before it is either a 4 or a 6 so I'm guessing it's 48'.
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