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After doing a bit of digging using that information EddieB supplied I found pictures of the No.4 loco at R.Y. Pickering in Wishaw. (See Below) Judging by the stylised No. 4 on the side of the loco, I can only assume then that the paint on the loco in the first post of mine is most likely the paint as it was when it was in use. Would you agree? I've yet to find a picture of the loco in service at Wishaw however.

That's fantastic information. Thank you very much. I knew it wouldn't have travelled from very far away to its current location in Summerlee. The other industrial engines on site are all pretty local as well.

Does anyone have any more information on the Barclay 0-4-0DH No.472 which is "Preserved" at Summerlee Heritage Museum? I'm trying to find out who owned and operated it before it ended up there. I know the origins of the other locomotives at the museum, including some photographs of them "in the day", but can't seem to find anything on this one. The earliest photo I can seem to find of it is from Dave F's photos post here in RMWeb :- https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/85326-dave-fs-photos-ongoing-more-added-each-day/&do=findComment&comment=3697787 I'm assuming this is it's original livery? In it's current condition it's been painted (well, what's left of it anyway) entirely in red oxide primer as seen here :- https://flic.kr/p/28sWywE Does anyone else have any photos of this loco? Any information is appreciated.

Just seeing this post now explains why the decals I ordered at the beginning of December haven't arrived yet. Really sorry to hear about the accident, wish everyone a speedy recovery. I did send an e-mail after trying to phone them a bunch and the message inbox was full (as someone mentioned above). Came looking online to see if anyone had posted anything about the site recently.

I've been back and forth with what to do with my layout; I've not had a lot of time to work on it again until recently due to work, ill health and other things. This was my most recent plan. Station in the bottom left with some goods sidings and maybe a goods shed as well. A steam depot off of the first siding down to the turntable; some storage sidings, a spur off of those tracks to the coaling sidings and then back from those into a double track engine shed. The second of the two sets of sidings (using the "Y" points) I thought could be the "newer" diesel fuel and stabling point. Thinking I could get a pump in there and fuel storage tank. I think it seems less jam packed (I might be wrong but I think there is more room to put scenery in with this layout)... But that's where I am with it now.

To be honest I keep scrapping the interior of the layout and starting over... I'm not 100% happy with any of it yet. Don't worry about that, they will all be replaced over time with the equivalent Peco Set-track points. This was just "proof of concept".

I do like the idea of having the crossover come off the curve rather than just being a straight crossover in the middle of the straight sections. I did mess around with the curved points in the SCARM program and using some of the Code-100 points to mate up with it but ended up finding that I can use regular set-track points to achieve what I was trying to do. The turnouts are R2 radius so I use the turnout to finish the curve and join the straight section up with turnout coming the other way. All I need is a tiny bridging piece to join them together. A headshunt would be nice to have I'll admit but... I'll only be able to run 2 loco's at any one time as this will all be old-school DC using an HM-200 controller I picked up recently to replace my rather aged looking housebrick R912 controllers. So anything on the inner line would have to stop to allow me to do that. Unless I were to put in a 3rd controller just for the sidings. Thanks for linking that. It's a pretty good looking little layout. I've been continually mucking about with the interior of the layout. Sat tonight to see if I could get something akin to "Bredon" on the board with a headshunt added over at the station end.. Been messing about with the depot side of the board as well. I kind of like the idea of having the fancier switches like the double slip and the 3-way. Bit more interesting than the norm.

Thanks for the link, but I've been on that site and it doesn't have geometry listed for what I'm trying to achieve. All the geometry diagrams I've seen put the crossover in the middle of the corner. I'm trying to get it on the end right as it joins the straights.

The baseboard will be on a set of wooden trestle legs (which I'm in the process of building just now) and probably won't ever be moved once it's on the legs in the middle of the room. Access shouldn't be an issue as the loft is 15 feet wide; this gives me 5 feet either side of it. Plus, if it ever needs to come out the loft it'll need to be broken down anyway as the loft hatch can take a max across the diagonal of 3 feet. This is partly the reason I'm reluctant to stick this embankment in as I'd need to split it at the door join if I ever did want to take them apart. I have thought about putting a linear layout in (something like David Hyde's Dearsley on YouTube perhaps but based on Airdrie Cally Station?) or sending something around the outside of the entire loft but this 6x5 idea was primarily because I had these two doors, I got some cheap lumber for the legs, and I had 2 ovals of track, albeit R1 and R2 radius curves from 1989, at my disposal. Plus I like the idea of just having trains running. You can't really do that with a linear layout. I'm kind of time constrained with the kids as well. I don't have a lot of time to work on a layout at the moment, so I thought using what I had would be a good way to get up and running quicker. Does anyone have any advice on getting the curved points to hook up to straights though? I realise that although I've managed it with some flexable track in the SCARM software, I'm not sure it lines up 100% and looks a bit crooked when you view it in the 3D mode. The throw of the points and the radius of the 2 curves isn't quite bang on and it looks a bit of an s-bend.

No part of the board will be against a wall. I'm very lucky in that the loft I'm putting this in is 22ft x 15ft. The dream further down the line is to have a layout which goes along one or more sides of the loft but that probably won't be till my kids are up a bit and I have a bit more time. I knew we ran on that side; not actually sure why I didn't pick up on that. Took your advice and re-engineered the plan. I tried to get the crossing at the right hand end of the station to come off the curve. I think if I use one of the regular PECO Code-100 points down there with the longer (and probably more realistic) radius on it I could get it to match up with the set-track curved point with a little straight in-between. It does mean that the curved point would be in a tunnel but I couldn't think of any other way of doing it but retaining the length of the sidings. I might play about with taking the track right up to the edge of the board and just running a lip around it to stop derailments from taking a 3 foot nose-dive but this is how it would look with the proposed changes.

Looking for a bit of advice, I'm pretty new to all this so please bear with me. Be gentle. I've recently been given, by my parents, all my old Hornby railways items from when I was younger and have made a baseboard in my loft using two old, plywood skinned, interior doors. This gives me about 6x5 feet to play with (196cm x 163cm to be exact) to build a layout on. I saw a picture on Google of a 6x4 double track oval layout someone on another forum had made which had a turntable (my friend has just given me a Peco Turntable kit as a gift) so I adapted that to fit my wider baseboard. Plus my old "Flying Scotsman train set" layout as a kid was a double track oval so I have track from that. Currently I have 2 similar ideas, one a bit more involved scenery wise than the other. I'm kind of guess-timating what size the buildings might be and where they could go but it gives you an idea of what I was thinking. I should also say, this will all be old school DC powered. The first idea uses R1 and R2 radius curves, which as I said I currently have the track for, and has a road meandering through the empty space down the middle of the baseboard. I realise that R1 curves are kind of shunned now as things have progressed since the old days when I used to mess around with model trains and the newer locomotives can't take R1 curves. I do kind of plan on running locomotives which might have been seen by my Dad on the Airdrie - Bathgate line back in the late 50's - early 60's though so I think the biggest engine you saw there regularly would have been a Gresley V3 or a J37. The layout is completely flat, one side is an engine yard, the other side is a station with a goods shed and a carriage shed. I like the idea of being able to maybe do messing about with shunting. The bottom 3 sidings of the 6 at the station being kind of like one of those Inglenook's Puzzles I've seen. I also liked the idea of having a carriage siding which could potentially take 3 coaches, which I think would just about fit in the top siding. I thought the 2 sidings off the Y point at the top end could be a Diesel Fuel Point as I've got a BR green Class 47 and a BR green Class 06 0-4-0 which, at least in the case of the Class 47, probably don't fit but this is my first proper attempt at a layout and I'm never going to be prototypical anyway at this stage. My second idea was to ditch the R1 curves and shorten the straights to allow for R2 and R3 curves, then due to the reduced interior space run a single track line raised on an embankment down the middle as the road couldn't make it around the outside of the sidings. In my head this could be the old LMS line which cut through Airdrie/Coatbridge, some of it up on an embankment, and would let me put a girder bridge / brick arch bridge at either corner. The track on top would be totally non-functional but would split the layout up a little. The only thing I haven't quite figured out yet is if I could fit a level crossing in at the station (perhaps make my own on the corner section at the end of the platforms, as I know there are a lot of stations with a level crossing right at the end of the platforms) which would allow lorries to get to the goods shed. Everything else is pretty much the same, just adjusted to fit. In both ideas there is still a little bit of space around the outside of the track for some grass or a little raised hill or something. I know I could use my original idea and use R2 and R3 curves on it but then the straights would be right on the edge of the board. So that's where I'm up to just now. I bought a magazine recently which came with an "Ideas for Layouts" book with it which gave me the impetus to come up with the embankment on the second idea I had; try and use a little elevation so it's not just track on a board but does anyone have any advice, ideas? Like I said I'm just starting out really and for all I know this might not even work as I'm maybe underestimating how big the buildings are going to be. But essentially I wanted to be able to run 2 trains, a passenger and a goods, do some shunting, and have a place to store a few loco's and the coaches/wagons.