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    Little Muddle

    Quite Note Kelvin's Balls (any excuse!), on the arms which allow their proximity to, and therefore effect on, the compass needle to be adjusted. Red and green paint is not a practice I'm a fan of, but it is common*. Note also the lamp box back left (/fwd port), above the compass disc so the light provides illumination, and the glass, without which the whole thing would be a little pointless Perfectly typical, and although there are always exceptions are we not told it is rather more convincing to model the rule than the exceptions...? But, as above, really very minor points on a minor bit of detailing on an enclosed and so rarely seen corner of a boat on a model railway. I'd call it a job bloody well done, and spend time trying to find convincing crew *EDIT: and perhaps more effective on a model, particularly in close-up photos?
  2. Schooner

    Little Muddle

    Wonderful details Kevin, I'm dead impressed! The steering gear cables are really effective, and swaged wire terminals are just great - see @Limpley Stoker 's pic above A couple of things about the bridge don't feel quite right (the binnacle, which has no Kelvin's Balls, nor sight glass, and whose lamps seem to be below the height of the compass; and the opened-out chart rather magically clinging to the corner of the sloping chart table), but if those are the only niggles on the enclosed bridge of a vessel on a model railway I think that's pretty amazing! The figure, however, screams 'Railwayman' to me I'm afraid. I think it's in the clothing - every item of railway garb seems loose and over-sized, the exact opposite of a mariner's clobber. I'd expect your man to be thin, boiler-suited with sleeves rolled up and filthy, with a fag in mouth or behind ear and a brew to hand. Suitably accessoried, the closest two from the Modelu catalogue I'd say would be: As skipper and engineer respectively...which I think could be accepted as mariners, but which wouldn't tell me they were. If you'll forgive a rather backhanded compliment, I worry this wouldn't be up to the standard of the rest of your exemplary 'show-don't-tell' narrative modellng style, which is rightly revered Anyway, thanks as ever for the inspirational photos, looking forward to the next updates Schooner EDIT: A quick Google brought this chap to light:
  3. What a find this is! Not sure how I'd missed this wonderful layout and thread till now. Thank you Castle, it's as entertaining as it is inspirational and informative - a real treat in this period of sodden days and long darks All the best to you and Flyers all for the coming year, can't wait to see what you get up to! Schooner
  4. Lovely update, thank you. The railway, and your approach to making it a reality, remain inspirational All the best, Schooner
  5. ...apologies also for the long silence, especially on the back of the rap across the knuckles received above. Sadly it coincided with things at work picking up and I've been low on time (and inclination) to go back through the thread to update the posts with links for images etc. I will get around to it as things ease off again towards Christmas, but so far only Avoncliff is up to standard, and even that is missing more recent findings. However, the daydreams haven't stopped and I've still be messing about with the Grand Plan (which isn't interesting enough to share), and starting to work out each section as I learn SCARM (which might be to some, post here, in Layout Design). Not exactly progress, but something. Anyway, thanks for the continued enjoyment and inspiration on this wonderful sub-forum, all the best, Schooner Edit: I may or may not find this of relevance before too long...
  6. Compressing Bath Well...it's been a little while since there's been anything to update, and this isn't much, but I've reach a point where some help would be appreciated. I'm out of my depth with all this, so external opinions on whether this is a reasonable compression of the GWR facilities at Bath would be most welcome. I think I've done about as much as I can, by reducing siding lengths to match my intended train lengths* and dropping what trackwork I can without impacting operations too severely**...but what have I missed? What else coud be done to shorten both goods and passenger station? Have I allowed too much space? Could more trackwork be cut out, or have I already gone too far?! For context, the date is about 1910. *of <6 feet... Much reduced from prototype, but about where the Law of Diminishing Returns kicks in for me - perhaps 12-15 wagons for a 'normal' goods service; 5-6 clerestories for express passenger services (and as many of Hatton's cheeky 4- and 6-wheelers as seems reasonable for local stopping trains). ** eg. the loss of a siding from the East end, by the shed is okay; but the loss of a siding from the West isn't. Bath Goods, 1903 OS SCARM version: As well as reducing sidings to accomodate only my shortened trains, I've also tried to 'rationalise' the trackwork to aid compression. Hopefully without loosing operational interest (eg. loosing a siding from the Up yard, RH in the above) but I'd appreciate any comment on whether this is a viable approach, and if it's been successful. I would, in fact, welcome all comments! Peco Code 75 library; express points and double slips, the latter to be reduced as possible. Bath station, 1903 OS: SCARM version: Not shown are the goods facilities at each end of the the station. This is just because I haven't found a wagon turntable in SCARM's libraries yet, and the un-connected spur sidings were a pain to deal with. Otherwise it's a first pass at Bath to take 6' trains using standard geometry points. Suggestions cordially invited Cheers all, thanks for your time, Schooner ps. Station to follow by edit once I've stopped arguing with the internet...
  7. So it was. A tired brain skipped the inconvenience of not knowing what it was on about and went straight for the little (hopefully) useful nugget it did, my mistake
  8. ...primarily driven by Paignton Gas Works' demand for coal, I believe
  9. Just 'cos I've got the grab handy - here's Midford, yard at the top to station and viaduct at the bottom: Cheers, Schooner
  10. Chuffers, you beauty! The work you're doing for the pillar drill is bloody good, and bloody clever Absolutely exemplary modelling in approach, method and results - thank you so much for sharing your progress. It's always a pleasure to catch up with this thread, and the last five pages or so are particularly fine. I don't know how you do it, but it's great to be able to follow along All the best, Christmas is coming... Schooner ps. Would Fred have heaved that dirty great sledge on to the top shelf having used it? I suppose it depends if it was in regular use or not... Where it is looks like the final resting place of a tool brought in for a particular job, then moved about the shed until it was found a home where it was out of the way, perhaps half-forgotten, part of the furniture of Fred's peripheral vision... This is the sort of existential dilema modelling of such quality brings about
  11. Bath Bath, and associated goods facilities to the West, will be the main hub of the 'inner' layout, responsible for a lot of the traffic on the system. One of the main draws, you may have noticed this theme, is that it is a smaller prototype for what it offers. This suits me fine - I've already decided to take up a vast amount of space without needing to find another 20' for a terminus The footprint is small and cramped, but the options it gives are varied. I appreciate the proposed empire is vast, but I'm wary of trying to model any large station area (Frome being about the edge of my comfort zone, Trowbridge a step too far) so that Bath is a mainline station serving a city in the right bit of the country yet only has 4 concurrent tracks makes it ideal. For a little background, Bath station (as it was called till confusion with Bath Green Park - which itself had officially been 'Bath Queen Square', called 'the Midland station', and also labelled 'Bath' anyway - brought about the name-change to 'Bath Spa' in 1949) was built in 1840, a broadguage station in very narrow environs. Freight was originally handled by a shed at the East of the site. These were moved to a new dedicated goods site at Westmoreland Road to the West in 1877. The single-engine shed moved to Westmoreland on the Up side in 1880. In 1897 the over-roof was removed and replaced with those seen above, the signal boxes at either end were removed and replaced with a single box in the middle of the down platform, and the platforms lengthened. This is how it remained c.1910 and is how I would wish to portray it Pretty much everything I'd like Bath to get across can be gleaned from this wonderful (like, really really wonderful) photostream - which I see Mikkel has found, but hopefully will be new to some. I came across it whilst looking for descriptions of the 1905 station pilot, the first GWR pannier tank, 4-4-0 1490. Lo and behold, there's a bloody brilliant photo of her at Bath on Flickr I may or may not have laughed out loud for joy at the photo of 175... Example trains from/through Bath: Express (here the Limited, which would run through Frome rather than Bath but anyway... ) https://www.cplproducts.net/ for Clerestory, Dreadnought, Concertina and Toplight etches, http://www.marcmodels.co.uk/GWR Concertina Family.html for kits and RTR. Semi-fast Mail train: https://www.francisfrith.com/corsham/corsham-the-mail-train-1906_54342 Auto-train Passengers A halt previously unknown to me, Hampton Row: . Will require further investigation, but that area is included in my original plan so it'd be good to include the halt. Found via Exeter Staff Past and Present's Facebook page, which includes heaps of fantastic material. Well worth a look if you've not come across it before and have an interest in the railways of the South West. Thanks for stopping by Schooner PS: The recent slew of useful links http://www.barrowmoremrg.co.uk/Prototype.html - BR, but relevant, freight working practices http://www.penrhos.me.uk/ - all things GWR coach, and many other useful bits and pieces https://www.wizardmodels.ltd/ - a kit catalogue worth investigation http://www.greatwestern.org.uk/ - prototype http://www.gwr.org.uk/ - model https://www.rcts.org.uk/ - photo libraries http://www.bath-at-work.org.uk http://historyofbath.org/
  12. Perhaps this pic of a MR D428 (EDIT: the nearest wagon) from Compound2632's prior thread, linked above, noted as Grimsby c.1910:
  13. What a brilliant depiction of a herring fishery quayside When I first saw it I was going to write a cautionary note that the herring industry was not representative of the fishing industry in general, and was in many ways its own beast...but it's well established above that fresh fish boxed in ice* was the order of the day. Wooden tubs and wicker baskets for movement round the market and locally, barrels for salt fish (largely bound for Europe by sea, I believe), no idea about cured fish Ah, I was so sure you were going to use 'jowst'! A lovely (if archaic) word for selling fish in this manner which Google tells me doesn't exist, but which was certainly in use in the West Country at least. What a great start, I think this is quickly going to become a favourite thread... Cheers all, Schooner *For the next wagon load discussion, I'd love to learn about how the natural ice industry was supported by the railways...
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