Dylan Sanderson

February 4

Afternoon everyone,

I'm still on the hunt for some Markits 6'2" 18 Spoke LNER Driving wheels, I can't seem to find them anywhere! Got to a point with my NER G class where I can't continue without them!

If anyone has any sat in a draw and you don't need them anymore, please direct message me so we can discuss a price. I only need 4, gauge not important 😀

many thanks,

Dylan

January 7

3 minutes ago, Tony Wright said:

Good evening Dylan,

Having just exchanged PMs, I thought a comment on here might promote more messages of help than anything I might offer.

You're building the loco in question in P4. If so (apart from setting-up/testing frames during construction) any Markits drivers will be of no use for running on P4 track (unless anyone knows differently). Some folk won't even use them in EM because the tyres are too wide (though I've never had any issues in that regard).

You've asked my advice/help in building your P4 frames. You're asking the wrong person, I'm afraid. The most-accurate 4mm gauge will never give me what I want (which Bytham does - 21 A1s now!), and, more importantly, I don't have anything like the requisite skills to build locos to such 'fine' standards, nor ever will.

Hence this post. I'm sure there are many who contribute on here who'll help you.

Regards,

Tony.

Thanks Tony,

I have a friend who turns down Markits/Romford wheels into P4, he did some for my E1 (J72) and they look the business. My frames are fully built, square and sprung with CSB, so it's just the mounting of the motor that needs to be done now. Like I said on our PM, I've got your DVD, so that should help.

Many thanks,

Dylan

January 7

3 minutes ago, Jol Wilkinson said:

Hi Dylan,

looking good. Are you going for the challenge of the opening (sliding) cab windows?

Ironically the other NER loco kit I have yet to build is a Tennant, bought s/h from Australia through the S4 Society Forum. I particularly like 2-4-0s and 4-4-0s so was happy to get it, especially as I wanted to see what one of Arthur Kimber's kits are like. The previous owner had removed most of the parts from the etch, and assembled a few parts, so it is something of a jigsaw. Fortunately a

My kit designing days are over for several reasons, the major one being a problem with my right eye which makes computer work rather uncomfortable. I have read that Arthur's daughter hopes to get his kits back into production, so keep your fingers crossed.

Jol

Thanks Jol,

I haven't yet worked out how to do the sliding windows. I've already soldered in the outside frames to them, so if I can still do it and work out how, I'll give it a go.

Yes, Arthur's daughter is helping him with it, I received a R class from her last week. She said they're sending out an availability list next week so am hoping the Tennant is on there.

Many thanks,

Dylan

January 7

1 hour ago, Jol Wilkinson said:

Hi Dylan

yes that is one of the loco kits I designed for John at LRM. the others all being LNWR. Great to hear that you are enjoying it. This is my built version (I had a bit of practise building the two test etches). I don't have the skill to line the wheels and a few other livery details may be a bit inaccurate. This despite having bought several NER loco textbooks when creating the design artwork.

679 has Sharman P4 plastic centred wheels with 20 spokes, which I happened to have in stock when I built the loco. Having just one green engine amongst all the black ones made me worry that it might be a bit lonely so I have a Tennant 2-4-0 kit to build and a friend is building a set of D&S NER clerestory carriages to run with them (I have agreed running rights for the NER on London Road).

One point if I may, my name is Jol (short for Jolyon). Having an unusual name has made me conscious of getting peoples names right.

Jol

Thanks Jol,

here’s where mine is at the moment. Chassis built and making good progress with the body.

If you’re still in the kit designing business, we’re in desperate need of a Tennant! The Kimber kit is being increasingly hard to find now.

and apologies about the name, that’ll be autocorrect kicking in!

January 7

40 minutes ago, Jol Wilkinson said:

Dylan,

would also commend that you go for a slightly smaller diameter wheel as suggested if you can't find the ones you want from Markits (the catalogue available online is dated 2013). Wheels were often turned when worn in service, reducing the effective diameter by up to 1.5". So a 6ft wheel would be okay, although you may have to compromise on the number of spokes.

Alan Gibson also list the wheel for the V2 but you may prefer to stick with a slightly inaccurate 6ft Markits wheel for ease of fitting.

Jol

Thanks Joe, I'll try and find something. I don't like using Gibson, the quality seems ok for wagon wheels, but that's about it.

If you are the Joe Wilkinson that designed this kit, my hat comes off for you. It's absolutely superb and is a joy to build. I'm already wanting to build a second!

Dylan

January 7

11 hours ago, St Enodoc said:

Can't help with stockists but I'd be inclined to go down a size rather than up, if that helps.

Same issue I'm afraid, closest size down I can see is 6' 19 spoke for the Black Five. Still out of stock with Wizard

January 6

Good evening everyone.

I'm on the hunt for some (4) Markits 6' 2" 18 Spoke Driving wheels for my LRM NER G class, but everywhere seems to be out of stock. Does anyone know where I can find some, or if anyone has any surplus to requirements? They're also sold as A2, B1, P2 and V2 driving wheels.

I actually need 6' 1.25" for the G class, but these are the closest I can find!

- Dylan

December 17, 2023

Hi Mike,

Just discovered your thread by chance after buying a High Levels J72 chassis for my first attempt at modelling P4! Looks like a really impressive kit, one I'm looking forward to getting stuck in with over Christmas.

Don't suppose you know if the chassis fits the latest Bachmann offering?

December 11, 2023

Evening everyone,

Just wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction to an online/mail order supplier of P4 loco wheels? Only one I can seem to find is Gibson and I've had a bad experience with them in the past, so want to avoid them.

Many thanks,

Dylan

October 17, 2023

Ta da…

finished my most challenging and complex kit yet, the 51L NER Diagram C1. A beautiful wagon kit that I really enjoyed putting together.

Any tips on improving it? I’ve got another on order to bolster my fish van. I wasn’t really sure how the underframe should look, so I guesstimated. I left off the steam pipes as well as the casting looked a bit naff and over scale.

Anyone know that the best paint is for NER Indian red?

August 27, 2023

Hi everyone,

Don't suppose we have any EM Gauge modellers on here that are willing to offer some advice? I'm really struggling with getting the ball rolling with Track Construction, and any advice on articles, videos, shopping lists or any hints and tips would be massively appreciated!

I'm a member of the EMGS and haven't found any articles that seem to help me with my construction method (Ply sleepers and Plastic Chairs) unfortunately!

June 17, 2023

8 hours ago, Worsdell forever said:

Yes and no, wheels pull out fine but there's a lot to take out of the splashers, almost too much, replacement wheels would be better but matching that paint would be fun!.

Hi mate,

been following your layout for a while and to be honest, it’s inspired me to model EM! I’ve got a O class on the way, don’t suppose you have any photos of the conversion process?

many thanks,

Dylan

May 20, 2023

Hi everyone, I could do with some opinions of prototype modelling…

I’m about to start my first ‘proper’ layout. A NER Mainline layout set around 1920, built to EM standards. I really like the idea of modelling a prototype as close as possible, but after scouring all of my N.E books, N.E.R.A, Facebook and more, I’m struggling to come up with layout prototypes that’ll suit my needs.

I’m wondering if anyone has any prototype locations that may be suitable?

I have a 18x2ft scenic section to play with that can taper to around 3ft at either end if needs be. And I’m building in EM Gauge. I want to model a mainline, but with a branch line so I can run pretty much all types of train.

Previous ideas I’ve had have been a heavily condensed version of Alnmouth, York Holgate and Scarborough Shed and Scarborough Falsgrave.

If anyone’s got any suggestions I’d love to hear them!

May 2, 2023

2 hours ago, micklner said:

I have one built a Langley version. What period are you modelling because the Roof details change I found out after I built mine.

I’ll be doing mine in NER livery

May 2, 2023

2 hours ago, Chas Levin said:

Sorry I can't help with your question, but is that paired in your photo with the Rails NER railcar? If so, they make a fine pair - that'll look wonderful when it's running!

Yes, except mine will be a slice of a bread in a ‘O’ class or a BTP passenger!

May 2, 2023

Hi everyone, don’t suppose anyone’s built the DS NER Diagram 116 Autocoach? I’m getting to the finishing stages of mine and I’m struggling to work out where all of the underframe details go, so a few pictures of a finished model would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance

April 15, 2023

11 minutes ago, Tony Wright said:

Good afternoon Dylan,

Compensated chassis are definitely not a 'must' (unless you're modelling in P4). What are you compensating for? Dodgy trackwork? If so, make/lay the track properly at source.

I can only speak from my own experience; granted, regarding sprung/compensated frames, not that much, having only built about half a dozen in that form. That said, despite my taking at least twice/thrice as long, none works any better than by hundreds of rigid frames. In fact, they've proved to be more wobbly in motion, more prone to slipping (despite all the perceived wisdom) and my rigid-framed locos pick-up just as well. In EM, it's absolutely not necessary to compensate frames for good running (most of Retford's locos are rigid, and run superbly).

These are the tender frames for a London Road Models' D2...........

The reason for the tender pick-ups is that the loco has to operate on Grantham, which has several dead-frog pints (a puzzle, I know). Not only that, some are the older Peco Code 100, yet this rigid tender rides just fine through them. The dodge (if it is a dodge) is to enlarge the centre bearing a little, allowing the middle wheels to 'float' a bit (a form of compensation?), thus preventing the dreaded see-saw effect on poorer track.

Regards,

Tony.

Thanks Tony, rigid it is then!

I’ll post updates on my progress…

April 15, 2023

10 minutes ago, Tony Wright said:

What are you compensating for?

Ohh err!

I do also drive a sports car, plenty of compensation there!

April 15, 2023

6 minutes ago, Bernard Lamb said:

Yes. You need to cut these out and fit guides that will slide in the slots to give you the required vertical movement. The other axle is fixed. I would suggest reading a book such as by Ian Rice on the subject before youu go too far.

Bernard

Thanks Bernard,

Are compensating chassis a ‘must’, or can I just leave the squares in and solder the wheels bearings into them on all 3 axles?

I’ve got most of Iain’s books on loco construction, however being dyslexic I don’t absorb words well and much prefer exploded diagrams, one of the reasons why I’ve gone for LRM!

April 15, 2023

Afternoon all…

I’ve just started my first LRM kit and I’ve fallen at the first hurdle! I’ve never built a compensating tender chassis, but am I right in thinking that 1.3 says that I need to cut out the front two axle ‘squares’ in the leading two axles?

cheers!

April 8, 2023

16 hours ago, PMP said:

They have said they’re not designing their steam locomotives with the wider gauges in mind, and won’t be providing replacement em/p4 wheelsets for them.

That’s really quite disappointing, I was hoping the newer model manufacturers would be more accommodating and go the extra mile!

April 4, 2023

On the right track?

Hi everyone,

this year I decided to start doing modelling properly. Building brass coach kits, loco kits and Finescale layouts. I’ve also decided to learn from the great modellers on here and go EM from the start, to save me building lots of kits then deciding I want to go EM later down the line. My OO gauge layout was ripped up a few weeks ago and I’m in the process of selling all my OO stock to fund my 18x2ft EM gauge model of Falsgrave and Scarborough Central during the Late NER/early LNER days. But I’m not sure what I want to do about track… there are lots of different paths for EM and I’ve no idea which is the best option for me!

What option would everyone recommend for the Permanent Way? I want my track work to be as realistic as possible, but looking at point kits from the likes of C&L, these seem prohibitively expensive. I’ve just read the late Iain Rice’s book on PCB track, and this option seems very cheap and easy to produce, especially for the very complex and flowing point work around Falsgrave tunnel, but will lack a lot of detail as the chairs are missed off. However, Rice’s layouts show that from the standard 4ft viewing distance, these omissions aren’t noticeable, especially when weathered correctly. DCC concepts offer PCB track kits with realistic looking brass chairs, but they don’t offer chairs for point work to the best of my knowledge, so I’m wondering if these would look worse when half the track has chairs and the other half doesn’t!

There’s also the EM track offered by The EMGS, some of which I own. It seems to be a good middle of the range choice, but only offers flexi track and B6 points, so I’m still going to have to go down another route for the rest of the layout.

I really could do with some guidance from people with more experience than me. It’ll be good to get other peoples views on what they recommend, or if there’s anything I’ve not thought about!

April 7, 2022

17 minutes ago, Tony Wright said:

Lovely Dylan,

I'd forgotten this one.

Please, at some future point, change those bogie wheels!

By the way, I've still got your under-construction Britannia here. You left it with me at Doncaster, then forgot to collect it. When you next visit.............

Regards,

Tony.

Hi Tony,

I didn't forget, I just thought you'd like to borrow her for the Sunday as well as Saturday 🙂

I need to message you soon about a Semaphore issue I've got, if that's ok. Are you attending Statfold Exhibition this weekend?

Many thanks,

Dylan

April 7, 2022

13 hours ago, Tony Wright said:

Any more B1s?

How about another Tom Foster Hornby B1?

February 22, 2022

Time to dig out the O2?

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