MR Chuffer

I haven't got any sweet wrappers, I don't do sweet stuff, so I laser print to cheap paper, stick paper to aluminium foil, crumple up when dry and give a dilute black wash. I've found expensive paper, good quality 80gsm and other weights are unconvincing, the cheap paper absorbs the laser and black wash more convincingly and I use a black permanent felt tip pen to touch up any white-ish-ness that might show through after the crumpling. I now have a decent colour laser to produce the fancy pre-1910 identity colours on many pre-grouping sheets.

The busy branch was 1 engine in steam and the first train - passenger and/or mixed - would come along with 2 locos. One would be "locked" in the goods yard to shunt the incoming and outgoing wagons for as long as was necessary whilst the other took the outward passenger, returning later to unlock the yard. The chain shunting was written into the local rules in use up to and after WW2 (I've read in someone's memories that worked there at the time) and probably enabled them to get rid of the loco that was based there full time up until WW1.

The Midland Railway branch terminus at Barnoldswick was authorised to use "chain shunting" on adjacent tracks, similar concept and no pole pockets required.

DIY rivets, what does anyone think of using 120gsm glossy paper for wagon corner plates and strapping punched through from the reverse side (4mm scale)? Had a bad experience with the LRM L&Y Dia.21 Break (Tin Tab) - my bad, where the etched brass sides have little dints on the reverse which you are supposed to punch through but I was too heavy handed and the rivet patterns I created on the visible side look like rocks. So I tried using the glossy paper and overlaid it, easy because it's the whole side, and it looks much more reasonable. Was thinking of extending this to scratch wagon building so how would I finish it, standard undercoat spray as per the rest of the etched kit or plastikard or proof the paper first in some way?

And at the end of the day, a railway carriage with a raised roof section with clear side panes has nothing to do with ecclesiastical matters. As Stephen says, our English language has evolved and continues to, and your obsession with this miniscule, insignificant difference in a pronunciation is becoming quite worrying. We aren't talking to each other, it's on the written page so you say it how you want to in your head and let others say it how they want to which, with this being a railway forum, will likely be opposite to your view.

And yet, when I first started in this hobby in the 1970s, it was always cler-rest-story I heard in shops and at exhibitions. I was surprised to hear later if pronounced as you say that it applied to ecclesiastical structures. Pretty pointless argument, really. You say tomato, I say tomato, etc... Let's call the whole thing off.

Agree, expect to be asked to transfer funds to a "safe account" or some such nonsense.

A misunderstanding promoted by FB to preserve their business model, their whole modus operandi is to capture eyeballs and keep them there which they do with clever algorithms, which often serve up images and content that causes suffering, as in terrorist content, violence and sexual imagery, etc. If it didn't cause suffering, why is the presence of the Alt Right so contentious in the US and similar extreme political views - left and right - such a bone of contention? If it causes no harm, why don't they just leave such content there? Use of FB has been described as a form of gambling, triggering the same dopamine responses in the brain, the continual "scroll" at the bottom of the page is like another throw of the dice which is why so many people "lose" themselves in FB - its designed like that (according to papers I've read from my son's degree course, and he's being taught how to hook sheeple through these technologies). But I've spent too much time on this already, this is your view so I'll let you get on with it, others, many others, choose not to.

By consenting to use FB, you are consenting to allowing them to track you wherever you go on the Internet, even when you are not logged in to FB, which I personally find odious in the extreme - but obviously lots of sheeple don't...

If we're talking Melton Mowbray pork pies, they were designed to be eaten "on the go" by hunts people, the jelly providing a forgiving cushion to keep the meat together and the pastry to contain the whole.

Think Sileby and Barrow on Soar on the MR, hunting was there a long time before the Great Central interlopers. Oops, just seen other people have basically commented the same, I used to live near Quorn...

Nice picture here, June 1909 and horses are being unloaded from a train that is comprised of LNWR rolling stock at Knott End on the Garstang and Knott End Railway.

Depending on period, there are photos in other threads where cattle wagons have been used for horse transportation - MR where I've seen it.

Are you putting this all down in one place with your other research such that you can produce the ultimate book on MR wagon numbering conventions?

How quaint, big beer fan here, so much so that during lockdown I've given up on gin and wine because a pub in the locality - 5 miles away - does home delivery. £3 per pint in 2 pint sealed containers including delivery. Tonight's brews are Twisted Wheel Speed Wobble @ 4.7%, a new one on me and very tasty IPA-like, and Saltaire Unity, a 6% IPA. How I love Saltaire beers and most Yorkshire beers generally, Vocation, Mallinsons and best of all, Ossett, including their Excelsius. Looking forward to what my local has on this Monday on reopening, the Dog in Whalley, booked in with daughter, dog and 2 friends for 5pm. Last reopening, they started with Roosters Baby Faced Assassin, a 6.1% monster of a beer from Harrogate, I missed the last bus home! Cheers everyone, we're nearly there....

I do too, Essery has so few gas store holder wagons listed, D835/836/837/588 - 12 in total, 2 for the SDJR. I want to park a rake of carriages at my BLT overnight, so where would they be topped up?

I think the idea is/was that you grip the loco sides by pressing in the lift's foam sides, but I know where you're coming from. I only have one for now and am thinking of having some sort of sliding or lift barrier at each end.

...so why was No 2035 fitted with Westinghouse equipment at this time?

Agree but after all, coal was the bread and butter of most companies' railway traffic pre-grouping, and after. Since my original post a year ago when I was top heavy with Wigan-based PO wagons, I'm now much more nuanced in my coal train traffic and have as many Yorkshire POs as Lancashire/Wigan ones, thanks to PoWsides kits. and a select few RTR ones.

Several people have asked for the NCB Coalfields map I mentioned up thread so I have included this link to a thread I ran with last year that answered many of my questions about trans-Pennine coal traffic and includes the Coalfields map.

@Andy Hayter, correct, I came across this when doing my own coalfield research, grim indeed. And "Death in a beer glass" links to a body of research in a PDF.

Ah, I see @Aire Head is on the same lines, so to speak, as I posted.

Been keeping on eye on this thread and a lot makes sense, then I see this? Located in the Northwest, where? Why would coal come from a port when Wigan was coal central. Also a lot of coal used in the Northwest came across the Pennines from Yorkshire. I asked a question a while ago about why do so many photos I see of Lancashire railways seem to be coal from Yorkshire and empties returning, and got a wealth of information including an NCB map of UK coal deposits. A reason for the one way traffic was "quality". Wigan was sulphurous as was Burnley, good for gas, bad for steaming and brewing, etc. I can send you the map of you PM me.

Make sure you "chit" them first, stand them in egg boxes on a light windowsill to create white shoots before you plant them, and then rub off excess and plant with 3 max shoots upwards. Creates much stronger plants.

Gardening to the extent of your ambitions is a full time hobby backed by knowledge and experience, it's either that or railway modelling, both will be v hard to accomplish together.