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  1. Right bit of an update to this. Size layout board I would be able to fit is 8ft x 5ft. Now should I bother with operating well? I would be able to access all around if I didn't as I won't shove the board right up to the wall so access during building and when operating shouldn't be a problem. Just don't know if an operating well will be more immersive for my daughters as it will round around them with them being in the middle, what's your thoughts? In terms of theme they are happy to go with locos and trains they like eg they mention scotsman, mallard, Thomas, eurostar, Azuma so basically a right mix and think this makes it a lot easier for me and gonna drop the 90s theme for now. Now still not decided on gauge, need to do bit more reaserch based on what my daughters mentioned above. I'm leaning towards tt 120 rather than OO but I'm aware that I can probably get most of not all of their trains in OO. Can also fit more on the layout in TT than OO which will make it more interesting for them. In terms of layout I don't know if to go with basic set track or streamlined or mix of both. I still have @Harlequinlayout that he helped me with (I'll upload here once I've figured how to do it) and wonder if I should adapt that layout to either TT or just go ahead with OO but bearing in mind this was a layout size I think for 10ft x 5ft when it was gonna go in the garage. Anyone got any inspiration for 8ft x 5ft reasonable simple roundy layout in either TT or OO bearing in mind that playability is key, wonder if a yard can be fitted in too?
  2. Yeah thanks for advice, like you say I may have to go earlier or more modern era eg Azuma etc which will work on tt120
  3. I think I will move away from the specific 1990s ECML theme layout and see what my daughters would like from the layout, I think this will make it easier to pick which gauge to go for. 00 does have advantages in 2nd hand market though. hmmmm It would be more late 1990s, that era of just after privatisation, apologies wasn't clear on that earlier. I was thinking the most southern part of the ECML. KGX to PBO as my inspiration. I think N would be too small for my daughter (I think I would be fine with it) but just don't want them to loose interest early on if its too small to enjoy.
  4. I have not thought about it in this way before and certainly makes it a lot more simpler, I'll ask them and see what they say. I know my eldest likes Scotsman, Mallard and more recently a trip down to London she really liked the Azuma she travelled on so I am thinking a mix of trains/locos and rolling stock based on their views might be the way forward. Thanks for the tip. Some fair comments there, the lack of available stock in TT:120 is going to be an issue if I got for ECML in the 90s, even if I do it after privatisation in the later half of the 90s with GNER etc. Also like you say length of trains is an issue too, something I am going to have to think about. Yeah I am inclined to go with the 8ft x 5ft option too, yeah its a fair point you mention about going 00 as their interests move on however I know they like Mallard, Scotsman and Azuma (as mentioned above) and I think these are available in TT120. But then on the other hand the 00 second hand market is more broad and my daughters will have more choice. Good tip on the free play and people focus narratives, can totally relate to that and this might give me something to work with, as @woodenheadsaid above its worth me asking their thoughts on what they'd, I can also change the layout if their interests change later. Haha a unicorn themed castle layout!
  5. Hey all I have been looking on this site on and off for a little while now and had some help from some fellow members, mainly from @Harlequina few years back when I wanted to build a layout for my daughters and myself. Back then I had space in the garage to build a 10ft x 5ft layout and this would be my first layout I have ever built, complete newbie. However never got round to building it and also something just didn't feel right building it in the garage where it would only get used part of the year and also would be subject to big temperature differences etc. Anyway 2.5 years on, I might have a spare space inside the house where I can now build it and it would be better. I want to try and keep things simple for me to build and something my daughters will enjoy helping to build and more importantly using it. I don't have much experience apart from playing with train sets when I was young myself but do have a good idea of how things can be built on a layout. The space inside the house would not allow the same size as what the garage did but I can certainly fit an 8ft x 5ft layout with a 4ft x 2.25ft well in middle (if tucked right up to the wall), if not I can omit the well and move away from the wall so I don't have to stretch over. I think this size layout as a first layout is quite generous. Alternatively I can do an L shape board layout (without the well but tucked into corner of room), a 6ft x 4ft board with another 4ft x 2.5ft board attached to it. My concern with this setup is stretching over the board to build, I won't be able to stretch that far, especially in the corners unless I move the layout away from the wall and allow for access behind it but this will therefore make the layout smaller too. I also have to think about playability too, I do feel my first idea is the better of the two. What are you thoughts on this? Next big question is that I was going to do my layout in 00 gauge but since that idea I have notice TT:120 has been released from Hornby and I was thinking I could fit more on the layout with this scale, what are your thoughts on this? Should I go with TT:120 or stick with 00? I did also think of N gauge but decided it would be too small to build and use for myself. Also the theme I am thinking of is around 1990s, last part of BR based on the ECML (spent many of time going on the ECML with my parents visiting family around this time). Hope you all can help or advise which direction I should go with.
  6. Right as it's a been a while since I've measured out 10x5 in the garage here is a photo of the width, you can see where it comes up to and would be plenty of room for the car door. So 10x5 it will be. Just need to decide on the flooring, either paint or rubber floor tiles. Some good idea @big jim regarding the flooring, especially the one with leaving car on concrete area and creating an insulated floor under layout, would this be just laminate with just laminated flooring or just plonk some ply on top? What insulation did you use again? Yeah I've enquired about radiator in there before and it is possible too. Haha, I just admit my Abarth 500 does have a mind of its own especially with the electrics. It's 10 years old one but not doing too bad on the rust front, just a bit starting under wheel arches.
  7. Yeah that's a good idea, wow that would be quite a reduction in width. Would there be enough width a 2'6" for my original oo design in N gauge? I could go wider technically than 2'6" and still be comfortable with car door as original design was 5ft wide
  8. Haha yeah that's true, I have thought that, I could have a massive layout in here.
  9. Do you think that would work? I did want a fiddle yard, wonder if that would be possible in N gauge? What other things do you think I could fit in?
  10. This is what I came up with the help from @Harlequinand his design expertise. I'm pretty sure I can fit this in the gap between the wall where bins are and the car with enough room to open car door. I wasn't too sure if N gauge would be too complicated for a newbie?
  11. Here are some photos of the garage to give you better idea. As you can see I've sorted the roof out and there is insulation on other side of that. Halfords have garage floor tiles so I think I'll get them and also do you guys think it will benefit from building wooden frame with insulation and plasterboard? I just want to try get the space right before building the baseboard and layout. The baseboard is going to go where the bins are and also got car in garage which gives you idea. I've planned to go 00 gauge for this layout which I think is doable, I think the layout is about 10x5" unless anyone can convince me to go for N gauge and go for smaller layout?
  12. Seeing @big jim thread (which I'm still reading). I think building a wooden frame to put on brick walls and line insulation in-between with plaster board is a good idea. I can do that on most walls in garage and think it will improve it. With regards to the floor, basically I'm deciding between the garage floor tiles or sealing with concrete sealer which will be cheaper of the two options.
  13. Yeah it will be sharing it with my daily car, I do have space for both the car and layout (approx 10x5ft). Ideally the car needs to stay in. The electric door is literally up and down straight away so I don't tend to get much stuff blown in. That's a nice looking layout and garage too. Yeah got two walls at end of garage that are plain. I'll get some photos up of garage up so to give people a better idea.
  14. @37114 do you have your layout in here too?
  15. Thank you for the tips and help guys. I'll try and get a photo of the garage as this might give better idea of my setup. Sounds like sealing the concrete should be done to reduce the dust. Do I need a machine to grind down the concrete before sealing or painting or just seal or paint on top. The concrete floor is old, about 30 years old. I've looked at those interlocking tiles, they look good. My thoughts on the tiles were to tile the car area and someone gave me idea in this thread to put plywood under the layout and attach legs to it, what do you guys think to this idea? Do you guys paint the bricks too? I'm not sure if to do this and if there is any benefit in doing this? For those wondering on my layout design, this is what I'm going for. Big thanks for help from @Harlequinfot his assistant in the design.
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