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  1. Excellent news, they'll probably sell me one then
  2. Aaaah that makes more sense than running them through to the next bit of double track!
  3. I sorta screwed up here as I was keen for a look if there were infrastructure trains on the loose. I made the mistake of not looking at Driffield on RTT, Bridlington doesn't show the trains (in hindsight I presume Driffield/Nafferton to Seamer is a possession) and as they haven't run by Seamer they don't show it either. Were the trains double ended or were they going up to Hunmanby/Filey to run the locos around (I am assuming one the tracks in Brid station isn't usable)?
  4. I am pretty sure only the Chilterns and 68008 I think can operate with the MK3 sets (probably because of the DVT). I am also pretty sure I read the 68s can only run in multiple with each other and 88s, not sure if these points rule AAR being fitted as I don't know enough about it.
  5. I wasn't saying don't include them, but the thing is if we are limited to 28 function buttons then there is only so far they can go, especially with lighting getting more complex. Even if the sounds get put on the chip but no function mapped it's there if somebody wants to remap. As an example, a Bachmann 66 has 3 lighting outputs controlled by f0 and another function. That would leave 26 free for sounds. A Hattons 66 has 10 lighting functions (none of which anyone can really say are gimmicky IMO, markers, rears, day and night headlights and cab) which would be controlled by up to 10 buttons depending on how you set them up. That means you lose 8. I would humbly suggest prototypically correct lighting would add realism in almost every layout beyond coupling sounds and door slams. Exactly, such as my lighting example earlier in the thread where conditions can stipulate what is on rather than just manually controlling everything.
  6. That is a great photo, I don't think I have encountered a pic of it from that perspective before.
  7. If only they were from this year's catalogue, R3762 is 2019 and R3827 is 2020!
  8. So it is looking like the R3762 Azuma is still arriving this month according to the Hornby site, but R3827 (Celebrating Scotland) has gone back from December to May. But on the page for R3827 it also says "Expected Winter 2022" so maybe they don't know when they are making them!
  9. Exactly. Sound wise I am mostly interested in engine, horn(s), drive lock. Compressor etc. I prefer to come on randomly. I can in fact though program horns/brake squeal and the like to locations on the layout but they don't matter what number they are.
  10. And I actually think in terms of the shape, the APT must be about top of the list in boring shapes. The class 90 is an interesting shape in comparison IMO. I do think it does make it difficult to make a model of though in this respect as every minor detail is picked on as they are so easy to pick out. A steam loco with pipes galore looks detailed even if the detail isn't right.
  11. Exactly, what I was getting at was more that some people seem to think F key = output. Completely agree on the output count being the main issue at the moment. For starters if we get to over 28 functions on sound, most people won't care about most of them anyway.
  12. Corrected that for you (No longer replying directly to you Roy) ,the thing that is worth considering is that function output and function trigger (i.e. the F buttons on the controller) counts aren't necessarily related. The main example is sound where you use loads of F keys and no function outputs, but once all the lighting on the loco can be controlled independently it is not necessarily the best way to operate having 1 button for each function, whilst that is ultimately the most precise control it is not always practical nor convenient. For example on most of my multi functional locos, I have one function for lights, which brings on directional markers and rears. One function for headlights (also directional). One function to swap day/night. 2 functions to switch the ends off for when pulling trains. That is 5 functions which control 8 outputs on the decoder. A feature that may be of appeal to those with sound models of these (I assume these have LS5s in) is that the ESU decoders will allow the cab lights to be switched off automatically when the loco is in motion, I have this on anything I have with a cab light whereby if the function is only active when the loco is stationary. On my Hattons 66s, I have them set independently and so only the forward cab will switch off when moving.
  13. It doesn't look particularly clever, does it? But I also don't know what colour it was IRL.
  14. In the case of the IRM isn't that due to it being wired into the ESU decoder as a stay alive? In the LS5 manual: "The PowerPack only operates in digital mode. It automatically turns off on analogue layouts." Unless I am misunderstanding what you're getting at! That's what I was thinking, I think all the videos I have seen of these in terms of checking the caps endurance have been stationary and the lights go off almost instantaneously, but the flicker caused by dirty track/wheels and insulfrog points is almost instantaneous in most cases too (otherwise it wouldn't be called flicker). Obviously if you're stopping the train over a bad area then it won't cut it, but something bigger maybe wouldn't either! Has anyone pushed these across bad points/whatever to see if they flicker? At the moment from what I have seen the discussion seems to be about if the capacitors are good enough rather than an experiment to see if they actually are. How do they compare to the capacitors in the 800? I don't think they suffer with flickering but I aren't sure if those have 4 axle pickup, which the APT won't have. Thinking about it, this train would have been absolutely ideal for having an interconnecting wire all the way through from each DT given the shared bogies. If each bogie has a 2 pin plug on it to tie the other carriage into it then all the pickups could be working together. It probably wouldn't cost more than a few pence a coach to implement since the wiring and pickups are already there, it is just 2 plugs and a bit of wire. A more expensive option would be a 4 pin plug and it could have a pickup bus and then a function output for the lighting (which could even have been operable on an 8 pin decoder unless Hornby have given more than just forwards/backwards lighting on the ends.
  15. I think the thing is that models can often be regarded as niche due to their numbers in real life, but I think it is pretty much fact that interest levels from rail enthusiasts is generally inversely proportional to that, and therefore when modelling probably quite an even spectrum due to the balance between what is interesting and what is realistic. I.e. a station with HST prototype, a couple of APT-P and the APT-E sat there would not paint a realistic picture regardless of the modelling around it (unless targeting a specific moment in time where these may have been together), whereas if it was one of those models with production HSTs, 87s, whatever alongside then it maybe would do whilst still not being representative of the actual demographic of the trains in real life.
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