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That would suggest these were similar to this Acrylic acid tank https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/tiphookacrylic Paul

Unexpectedly I photographed one of these when unloading a car at the Milan motorail depot https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/italianrailway/ea46480d4 in 1995. I suspect in "internal use" the way the door is open and it is at the blocks. Paul

Hi anonymous ex major influencer on the GoG forum. Yes extensively discussed. The north (Wigan) is getting a winter show. There has been a demand for a southern show - hardly surprising as that is where the money is - but there is already a O gauge winter show by others - in Guildford - so avoiding this meant Kempton being in the summer. There is a great O gauge show in the autumn at Sunderland Nissan plant 28 - 29 September. I'm completely independent of that, but the only O gauge show I'm planning to go to this year. Wigan in winter, no thanks. Miserable journey from York. Yes, it was not a change taken without much anxiety on the forum. But you would know that if you had stayed. Paul

or convert you all to 7mm where the difference in discounted prices between 4mm and 7mm vanwide models is minimal. 😇 Admittedly the Palvan is a kit build at the moment in 7mm. Paul

This is one of the last of these to be built. https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/berrywiggins/efb2a888 Plenty of photos amongst https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/pounbraked An example of one remaining in internal use in 1988 and probably later https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/mtd/e32f01336 or https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/nationalbenzole/e3c7676e9 But I don't know if any of these are the same barrel size as the model. There were lots of differences. Paul

5239 in 2016 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/mark2coach/e74e4015d Paul

Caustic Soda was carried in tanks as described. Smaller than the ECC ones https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/frenchcausticsoda Paul

Presumably if you are talking about the Nitric acid I think that may have been the tanks that were later used by Hays for UKF traffic, but I'm not sure. https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brtbogietank2/ed83fdec But where they working to Sellafield or to Workington for the works at Albright & Wilson Corkicle. Paul

Possibly. Even having friends that worked for Rowntrees for decades they are too young to remember these vans. In the pub last week there was mention of trying to get one of the very large bogie ferry vans in. I digress. I think the problem may well have been as you suggest, with forklift trucks not so readily available at many yards. By the later 1960s when I worked at a Schweppes delivery warehouse the product came in on open sheeted flat trucks or the Freightliner curtainsided containers (type M). They could stand in the middle of the yard and forklifts could access either side. 20tons unloaded in a few minutes. But, yes not so easily done in 1954, or even 1964. The few times I went into freight yards I was surprised how often hand loading of vans continued - even the APCM Palvans in 1977 which were simply an extended Vanwide https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/apcmvan/e1a1401db. Paul

Not really, the VANWIDE replacement design was so successful that large numbers survived to be airbraked and used into the 1990s. And traffic such as the chocolate from Rowntrees survived to have it loaded in VDAs also into the 1990s 1987. It was the mis-judged end of Speedlink that filled our roads up with unnecessary long distance lorries. Paul

These had been in Nitric Acid traffic for MODA, but I don't know if they went to Sellafield https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/modanitric Nitric acid is very heavy and therefore specialist tanks in the past were much smaller than those for petroleum/oils. https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/modatopsacidtanks https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/iciunfittank/e1fbd472f Caustic soda, https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/icicausticsodatta https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/icicausticsodatua Paul

Finally out of the bag. Can someone post a link to the Bachy announcements please. All had black boards. Unusually instead of simply for marking some had permanent writing, differing on either side such as RETURN TO YORK. I don't think the large number reserved for Channel Islands traffic landed at Weymouth Quay have been mentioned. This was the origin of the large numbers condemned in Feltham MY when we visited in April 1968. https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brpalvan/e3edd810c Very unsuccessful design, only a few survived in traffic into the 1970s and they had the revised double link suspension https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brpalvan/e30c345d3 or the very few airbraked versions. https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brpalvanvpb As mentioned a good number became stores at the end of various yard sidings. https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brpalvan Paul

Ah the joys of modelling the BR period. Although the officials don't often get it quite as wrong as that! It looks like they woke up to the mistake. In http://www.barrowmoremrg.co.uk/BRBDocuments/Book300Part3Dugdale01_Issue.pdf there is TT071A for the IIRC unique 53129 and they don't have running numbers on TT071B but looks like it is for most of these wagons. Paul

Mark that is really useful. I wonder where they got some of the detail from as it looks good, but isn't the same as the XVA - for example the plate above the bogie https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brtrestlexva/e9c3b3d9 The cross bracing should be simple to add https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brtrestlexva/e9b89400 I've always had a personal interest in these because I was trying to get one of the kit manufacturer's to produce a BDO 40 years ago. The same frame is present beneath the LNER 1930s built Boplates and bogie bolster Ds (those with the two plank sides through to the later LNER builds, the BR BBDs of various types and Boplates as well as these Trestles - which ended up as under runners with no body work, And I still routinely see the remains of BDAs (which are really BDOs) hammering through York loaded with 60 tons of slab steel 60 years after their frames were manufactured. Paul PS for the very skilled with a soldering iron there is a lovely kit for the XVA in 7mm. One of my friends has made one - and he does say how useful my photos were.

Radford 3F 43729 up pw train c1951 JVol2238 The MR Ballast brake van is nice. Essery MR wagons vol 2 tells us he knew of 98 of these being built between 1888 and 1899. Is the running number visible? I expect more expertise will tell us about this. Paul

I doubt anything as simple as that ever had instructions. There is only one part and some washers, large for the main pivot and small for the wheels - with sufficient to allow choice of gauge, OO, EM or P/S4 Paul

As has been pointed out on another topic there is a really useful selection of photos of an exhibition train of Freightliner at https://hetutrechtsarchief.nl/beeldmateriaal/?mode=gallery&view=horizontal&rows=1&page=1&fq[]=search_s_trefwoorden:"Containervervoer"&q=freightliner&reverse=0 This has 18 photos taken in Amsterdam 31 May 1967. A lot of the containers are familiar from other Freightliner advertising, but there are more details in some of these. They include the surprising construction of the floor of the K open containers, and one of the 10ft Gs. Incidentally there are a lot more container photos on this site from this period, mostly the cross Atlantic maritime ones that kicked off this revolution, but there is nice old BR BD easily found. Paul

And you miss my point which that the company doesn't hide what it does, Instead, and unlike virtually all other railway freight users, they spend thousands, probably tens of thousands putting vinyls on the side of these enormous (by UK standards) wagons to explain what they believe they are achieving by burning mature north American forests with a very large bonus from UK taxpayers via Government grants. Paul

Yes, dreadful destruction of old growth forest in North America. However, they do like to advertise - the new small batch of wagons built by Davis last year are just as strongly vinyld as the revinyld earlier ones. Most of the new batch are working to Immingham, but a few are mixed in with the earlier wagons on other flows. https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/draxbiomass/edc4fe63c https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/draxbiomass/edc4fe6a8 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/draxbiomass/edc4fe6c8 Paul

Unusual container, Looks like it has openings for the tines of a large forklift. Paul

You haven't mentioned which model you have. But this may assist https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/warwell/e298ff655 or https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/warwell/e3b7e540c or https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/warwell/e8d5c324e Paul

Loose shunted. Fly shunting is usually illegal and dangerous. And yes I have seen it done at Twickenham station with a standard 4MT tank infront of platform of passengers. Lovely photo. What is that long rake of PT wagons with the main writing on a slight diagonal at the far right. Paul

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Reflects they were an all purpose open merchandise wagon suitable for going to the Continent. Paul

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