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  1. True, but there was an overlap period when they worked alongside the 460 class.
  2. And on its opening in July 1925, services were worked by Adams 460 class 4-4-0s until 1927 and the infiltration of the "new" E1r tanks. It so happened that there were turntables at each end of the line.
  3. In the deep recesses of what passes for my memory, I recall a Home Service broadcast of Down Your Way. Probably in the late 60's, where the presenter (Franklin Engleman?) used to visit a town and interview various personages in the town. On this particular occasion he spoke to manager of a company manufacturing railway oil lamps, including tail lamps. When asked why diesel locos carried oil tail lamps when they had fixed electric red lamps, the response was "well, the tail lamp is very important, and the filaments of the electric lamps were not reliable enough to survive the vibration and shocks of the working diesel loco." I just put it out there. (Deary me, I must get out more.)
  4. I've known Elm Road Crossing for over seventy years. Most interesting when it had it's own crossing box, which was located at the RH end of the short white fence behind the woman and buggy. Elm Road is pretty busy, especially at school start and fish times (there are a number of schools in the immediate area whose catchment areas also covers the other side of Kingston Road 300 yards beyond the overbridge. By and large drivers do tend to obey the signage, in particular the give way sign on the other side of the bridge for traffic approaching from Kingston Road. I've never seen any real problems with driver behaviour or recall any "incidents". I haven't driven that way more than half-a-dozen times in the last 40+ years. With 4 time tabled trains an hour outside of peak times (plus ECS to and from Strawberry Hill) you can wait up to 11 minutes for a clear path; 44 minutes an hour with the barriers down!
  5. I have somewhere in one of my piles a drawing of the one at Sheffield Park. Try the Bluebell.
  6. I think the buffers are not a normal feature of end loading docks. Most of the time there is a baulk of timber across the end of the dock, much like many buffer stops. and similarly sometimes lengths of rail bolted to the dock. I call to mind a photo the one at Buckingham (LNWR) and a drawing in Jack Nelson's book on LNWR infrastructure published by Peco decades ago.
  7. Without referring to my library, I recall pictures of: Military vehicles such as "jeeps", small vans, radio vehicles , ambulances. RAF bomb dollies, oxygen tank trailers. Farm equipment such as ploughs, disc harrows, rakes, muck spreaders. More generally, road drill compressor trailers, cement mixers, invalid cars. Plenty of choice there.
  8. Southern Guards doors opened outwards, even on Bullieds. I often watched guards race for their door after the right away, especially if the hinge side was leading. The jerk of the start, especially with 4-Subs, would cause the door to start to swing shut. No doubt, from time to time the guard didn't make it. Inward opening doors arrived with BR Standard stock (AKA Mk1).
  9. I've seen references in footplatemen's recollections that on very hot days, some cleaners were want to go for a swim in the tanks. Maybe that's why the GW roofed them in. 😉
  10. "Blood and Custard" have an article on the Surbiton Oakhampton Car Carrier. And given the BSK has a roundel then the formation is noted as being, from the front Mk1 SO S4386, ex tavern car RS S7881S and BSK S2529S. Apparently this formation was used on this service in 1963 and "may have been used in 1964" - the last year the train ran.
  11. There's a somewhat indistinct photo, but no drawing. You won't get very much useful info from this I'm afraid.
  12. Jamie92208 wrote I once helped deal with a bump where an artists brakes had failed coming down the M621 into Leeds. It came down the slip road by Elland Road then ran straight across the roundabout before embedding itself in the swamp thatvpasses for a roundabout. The cargo, 20 tons of bottled beer, sheeted on a flat bed trailer. Fortunately no people or cars were hurt. Sadly the load was not affected and not a bottle was damaged o we didn't have to clear it up. The cause a round disc of swarf that disabled the brakes on both the tractor unit and the trailer. I guess your device uses predictive text. Given the previous thread on graffiti I thought the driver was found to be off his head after being overcome by fumes from his rattle cans. The last sentence cleared up my confusion.
  13. I'm not sure that's entirely true, Paul. I remember hearing an interview (on Radio 4 I think) with a BR stockman employed at Liverpool/Birkenhead on the Irish cattle traffic (the last cattle traffic handled by BR ?). I have an LMS text book, Goods Station Working, and what the stockman recalled matched most of what was covered in the book on livestock. Of course, a grade of stockman, wouldn't necessarily be employed at a goods yard with only weekly cattle market traffic. I also seem to recall something about the customer loading the stock, under the supervision of railwayman.
  14. Returning to the iron road. I believe the Southern Region put on non-stop services from Waterloo to Ascot for the Royal racing week, using 4CORs. All first 4CORs. Upgraded by putting anti-Macassar's on second class seats. But the toffs and pretenders paid up. But then they probably didn't use trains very much, so wouldn't know. Still worth watching Ascot goers on Waterloo concourse even now,especially when they come back to town.🥂
  15. Definitely not London and South Western but may be Glasgow and South Western, one of Manson's output perhaps? Or more likely a Pickersgill loco of the Caledonian to my (fading) eyes.
  16. You make it sound as though it has been dumped and left to rot. It's just hiding behind the usual buddleia. I was on the station on 15 September waiting to return to the Smoke and it looked very smart, and there were two blokes in orange pfaffing around in it. For awhile they had the pan up and must have turned the key because they had it roaring for about five minutes.
  17. I have ordered the The Banbury to Verney Junction Branch by Bill Simpson from amazon, but it will not arrive until the end of the month. Please can you tell me if a diagram is in the book I have ordered. It is a very interesting book, and there is an LMS rating plan for Cockley Brake Junction in a fold out section between pages 24 and 25 (in my copy), but it won't tell you much more than you already know.
  18. The LNWR put in a new (Type 5) box in 1922. There ae photos in Barry Taylors SMJJR Vol2 Pub. Lightmoor 2018, and in Arthur Jordan's SMJR, The Shakespeare Route, pub OPC 1982. The signals are standard LNWR types, The Junction from to the right on your diagram is controlled by two arms on equal height dolls. The home signals on the two incoming routes are single arms. All the posts are about 20ft high at most. Notably they are all situated alongside the toe of the turnouts they protect. No room for any overrun! At the other end the loop points toe seems to be under a road bridge with the home signal immediately along side. As far as distants are concerned, I have no information, but fixed distants seem to have been not uncommon on this part of the railway. ATB
  19. Did Ongar ever have a turntable? The GERS publication of sectionalised official track plans for 25 December 1919 does not show a table for Ongar. The nearest was at Epping, of 50ft length.
  20. This is one of Ted Wests pics. Probably not a good example as it was likely to have been given a paint refresh for the exhibition, but it appears the inferior may have been painted black or very dark grey. Incidentally other wagons also photographed by Ted at that event shows timber vehicle interiors unpainted and "Green Arrow " types (Dia. 1/041 & 1/046) interiors painted same as exterior. 
  21. I have a vague recollection it was seen in one of the Architecture of the Railways episodes, and most of the interior fittings are still extant, because of its listed status.
  22. Permanently, especially going by the wall erected in the former exit hole from the booking hall to the stair foot. There is a ticket window at the head of the stairs (see below) which is not shown on the 1936 plans, although the drawing does not necessarily show what was actually built. It may have been provided when the booking hall was closed, but it has a period look about it, "bronze" fittings and such. It is a listed building, so it probably had to "fit".
  23. Surbiton Down Side Building Here is a selection from a batch of pictures taken this afternoon. The first shows work going on to finish off a new footbridge which will allow better exit from the down island platform. Under the existing arrangements, during the peak there can be two trains unloading and the passengers cannot all be cleared away before the next lot arrive and it was getting dangerous. The new footsteps replace the original public bridge steps. Access to the public bridge is now via the station entry steps and turning thru' a new hole punched through the dividing wall. The next shows the entry to the down side booking hall (closed) and to the current steps to the bridge and station. The current entry. On the left can be seen the exit from the booking hall to the bridge, now blocked off. I would imagine that when the booking hall was in use, what is now the entry point was closed off with Bostwick gates, used only at peak times. Here is an explanation of the current works. (Poster on platform 4} I did take a bunch more photos; if anyone is interested, I'll PM them. ATB
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