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Your right, I shouldn't have had to do anything at all with a new model.

Dropping the bogies out.

Whilst checking the bogie tower issue a brake shoe has fallen off. How on earth do I re-attach that? Nightmare.

Everyday is a learning day.

Are you referring to the Rail Guard? If so it was discussed earlier in the thread,

Hi, What were the symptoms of the electrical fault?

Sorry I've no idea what I'm looking for in that picture?

Apologies you are correct, I don't pay much attention to the controller market now that I have one. However when I did last look I don't remember the GM kit particularly cheap either considering there may be limitations.

Can't speak about the NCE but my Z21 needed a firmware update to support the functions beyond F28. It was a simple firmware update via the Z21 phone app, and fixed it straight away. So it depends how NCE support their products. I was quite surprised to read on this thread actually that the NCE (some/all) only support momentary (push button) action on F2. I'd find that a bit annoying as some functions need to be push button, actually I'm not sure the Z21 remotes support push buttons strangely so I just use the Z21 app with a mobile phone or touch screen chromebook instead.

Yes definitely! The factory was almost squeezed into the space right next to the railway line with a very interesting and slightly chaotic looking cable storage / scrap metal yard built on a patchwork of tarmac which went right up to the boundary fence. As a kid I was always fascinated by railway lines running through industrial estates like Kirkby, Trafford Park or Ellesmere port and my favourite model loco was a Triang 'Port Shunter'. My first memory of seeing a loco live and up close was on a visit to my aunties when I was about six, their house backed onto Golborne sidings and I remember going into the back garden and the sky was filled with a filthy BR Blue class 40 messing about with some freight wagons, been hooked ever since. The workers at the Prescot Rolling mill were doing that much overtime that they were on more money than the factory manager and after they cut overtime and subsequently asked them to go back to it a while later they couldn't get them to go back onto overtime as they'd become used to doing 'school hours'! I haven't been back to Prescot for many years but am due to go to the Shakespeare theatre next week, I believe the town, or cable town as it was know, is unrecognisable from the BICC days so it should be quite interesting.

The 56 looks miles better without without the aerials, it really spoils the lines of the loco and I hate them. I have 093 and 120 and whilst 093 does not have the aerials which is great, 120 does and I was a little disappointed about it given that the original artwork never showed them and there are lots of pictures of the prototype without them.

Or the fans, depending on what your priority is.

I use to work for BICC and all the factories at Prescot, Melling, Helsby, Wrexham and Leigh etc. seemed to have a 'Factory cat' or cats. Some of the blokes I worked with used to hammer the overtime and always seemed to be at the factory, they too would inevitably be referred to as the factory cat!

That's not really a cat is it?? 😯 Hoping its just a photoshop given that its in the line of fire sitting on that rail. 🤷‍♂️

That's one of the decoders I'd be considering with it having 10 outputs.

I've been trying drawing packages but to be honest I'm struggling a bit, some awful interfaces out there. Just the basics of setting up the layout size, which should be straight forward and on page 1 of the manual, I think I found it buried on about page 30 of manual! I've tried 3DPlanIT, SCARM, XtrkCAD and AnyRail and at the moment AnyRail is probably coming out on top but probably because it includes the Peco Streamline library and allows you to bend the flex track. Any views? Thanks

I think you'll need 10 outputs. Originally I thought it was 8 but forgot about the fans (2off). So the outputs would be 1 x Tail lights, 1 X Front lights, 1 X Head Light, 1 Cab Light - for each end. So that's 8 + 2 = 10. I'm assuming all lights are independent given the switching options. I.e. Not on the same White / Yellow circuits.

Surely you can change the CV values from your controller and would have used that to change loco addresses? Once you have the list of values, its reasonably straight forward. The last time I did was for a Dapol O gauge 121 and they included the settings in the manual.

Probably a daft question but would fitting the front detailing pack foul the coupling hook if also fitted? The reason for the question is the hook would be needed for occasional double heading. Thanks.

Sorry where is that? I've checked my documentation, the available manuals on the website and the website spare parts section Class 47 2022.

So that was for the 2022 version of the 47?

You quoting terms and conditions or just offering opinion?

I might contact them and ask the question, SFX was out of my budget at the time. I picked up two Bachy 37 SFXs for a good price and recently two Cavalex 56s and all have working fans, love them! So the Bachy 47 is looking a bit out of place at the moment. 😁

Do we know if the motorised fan assemblies are available as spares? I assume they can be added to the sound version, looks like the decoder supports them.

I pre-ordered mine about the same time and I'd be absolutely gutted if I missed out after waiting two and a half years. What I didn't like about pre-ordering with Rails was the lack of communication when pre-orders are arriving / arrived. I waited two years for the Bachy 47 and then one day I just had an email to say that payment had been taken and it was on its way, luckily I was in that day and my card hadn't changed which is a good possibly after two years. My experience with other retailers is that they give you a courtesy call to confirm the details and then to sort out payment and delivery. I know some retailers complain about being messed about with pre-orders but I thought Rails took a deposit? Do you lose the deposit if they cannot supply what you've pre-ordered and decline their 'alternative'?