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  1. Quite an interesting issue with a number of interesting subjects. Found something strangely appealing/ inspiring about the muddy field with cows... The scenes with modelling water and drainage pipes I also enjoyed, not normally my type of thing, but definitely in this case so well done to the author and photographer (and whoever laid out the page too) for catching my attention. Class 01 article interesting too. Need to reread it again as I was getting cross eyed over the D2956/ D2965 issue. I am not sure if the proof reader had the same issue but I wouldn't be surprised. All I can say is that thank god it wasn't me. Which was the intended number btw? Nice to see something about the class- never saw any of them and they were almost mythical in status..
  2. Hi Colin Being the sub editor and proof reader of UPDate, I was in the position of getting an early preview of your article. I found nothing intrinsically wrong with at all and it read very nicely indeed. Such was that I needed to do very little alteration/corrections and they were of a time sensitive nature caused by the blasted virus cancelling your forthcoming appearances, so it seemed pointless to leave them in. It was a very interesting read on the logistics and otherwise of taking a layout to a show and all that it entailed. I echo Kelly's sentiments in thanking you for submitting something so quickly that was 'a bit different' subject wise and also well written. Please feel free to submit more material, especially if you model in 7mm scale as we as a magazine are very much under represented in that size. Thanks again for your article and I hope that we presented it to your liking. (The change of title/ adding of a subtitle was me so feel free to blame Kelly (D827 here).
  3. Hi Sorry for the delay. Time to clarify and correct the confusion caused by my inability to type numbers correctly... E5625 was apparently fitted with BT5 bogies for a time (Harris- "early 1972") as part of the development of the Mk3 stock. E5962 should have been M5970 which was converted into the prototype APT catering equipment vehicle and was later renumbered as M1800 and reclassed as RSS Restaurant Self Service. This was a more involved 'four-module' conversion. According to Harris in Mk2 Coaches there was another APT catering conversion carried out on another Mk2f TSO (it was this one that was M5962). Described by Harris as a 'galley conversion' it had 2 bays of seating replaced by a kitchen area which included an air circulation oven, a bread toaster and 2 fridges. It began public trials during October 1974 on the 1015 King's Cross- Leeds and a return. It later joined the then still-numbered M5970 on the West Coast after March 1975. Both are reported as retaining their original numbers at this time and TSO classification but had full length red cantrail bands. M5962 the galley car was restored to an open second during 1976 whilst M5970 was redesignated as RSS No M1800. I have never seen pics of any of the three vehicles mentioned so modified. The only RSS ones in BR use are the pair at Glasgow Central on Eastbank MRC's site. Also never seen are pics of the prototype Mk3 vehicles during their trial use in scheduled LH services on the East Coast (or the West Coast for that matter..) All in all not really very relevant to your excellent modelling but updated for completeness. Looking forward to seeing more of your excellent work.
  4. Hi Martin Enjoying your work. Any chance of E5625 joining your fleet (or indeed E5962)...?
  5. I think the above may be the relevant thread that you refer to. I just point out that none of the dates listed are my own work? They were kindly sent to me by John Atkinson who is one of the writers on the excellent bloodandcustard site which is highly recommended if you are interested in the units shown here- and why wouldn't you be! As yet the CIGs and BIGs have not been covered on the site but are 'in preparation.'
  6. Hi to Tony and everyone else, As someone who doesn't contribute anything much, especially modelling, I just wanted to say thanks for sharing your projects, reading about them really is an important part of the day for me. It really does make me feel a part of something positive and constructive. The last bit of modelling I did was when I was Hinckley Signalman (not signalwoman or signaller please!!) with a T3 possession on and very few trains to have to deal with, I built a 4mm model of the Hinckley pway cabin, simply as it was outside my windows and easily accessible. PTS rules were not as stringent then and signalmen were allowed trackside access. It was nothing architecturally to get excited about as it was a modern portakabin. I wasn't keen on the models around at the time as they were 3.5mm/ft and really did look too small. I thought that it was something that I could manage so i measured it up and had a go.That was in 1990 and I still have the model which I would like to tidy up and titivate. I may post a photo of how it is and see what people thing/ suggest needs to be done. One positive thing is it is still square and has warped (unlike me..) My main reason for droning on is to thank all of you on here for keeping me less mad than I usually am. I have socially isolated since about 1978 and I am feeling hemmed in by things at the moment. I really feel for those who are sociable and feel restricted at present. We do have 'Wright Writes' though which is a breath of fresh air. No pompousness or 'look at me' just plain simple friendly and informative conversation about things that are interesting and that you didn't know about. I have learnt about valve gear and how it works, constructing buildings by the maestro himself Grahame, I am learning about LNER locos ( the only ones I really have knowledge of are the electrics and the ex Met tanks) and the fact that there are large variations within each class. I enjoy the honesty of posters, the fact that our glorious teacher Mr W has principles and a modelling philosophy which underpins everything that he does. To coin a phrase my late gran used "I know what I like." I like the approach to getting things right and helping others to do so too. It is all about sharing knowledge and improving ourselves. I also like the sometimes opinionated views of some, something that I have very many of myself. As an ex-signalman things like point rodding are of great interest and I'm glad that correct and accurate signalling and equipment is deemed as important as the locos and stock. Would it be possible to have some closer pics of the rodding and things like cranks and compensators please? I have always said that you can't beat a good rodding... What is also great is the photos that people kindly share. As we are currently not able to visit our usual shows it has been great to see what people are up to. As operating and train working appeals to me (plus I am a nosey cow), the series of pics that Tony posted about the operation of LB are of great interest. Layout operation is something that interests me greatly and is often a much ignored item. One of my bizarre habits is photographing entire sequence cards etc as I like to get a feel for how the required info to run the layout is conveyed to the operator, and indeed the public. One of the important features of Tony's LB sequence of photos is that he explains what the train is and what it is doing. It then stops being just a random loco and stock passing through just for the hell of it. I shall stop rabbiting on and apologise for the length of my post, but please continue to post all of you, it is great to be able to share with you. Keep safe. Natalie x
  7. Many thanks for your kind reply. I have photted the buffer beam arrangement under the floor. There is a metal plate with a screw at each corner. On close examination it does appear to be that the plate is angled to form the bufferbeam but it might not be very clear in the photos. I can't seem to get a decent photo behind the bufferbeam.
  8. Sorry for the huge date bump but I have come across this topic only today. At the 7th Chris Kedgley Skills Day today at Didcot Civic Hall was some stock previously owned by a now deceased member. Mostly it was all manner of GWR types but a model of a Southern Railway GBL (Gangwayed Bogie Luggage) van caught my eye and for a very reasonable price under £10 I was tempted. I am trying to work out who the model was made by. It is obviously a wooden body and the planking appears quite well reproduced to my mind. The underframe equipment is on a metal plate screwed to the underbody. The gangway is either lost or not fitted. Overall it looks quite a good attempt- certainly better than the old Triang version although the bodyside windows appear a touch high. I have consulted my Gould "Southern Railway Passenger Vans" (Oakwood X50, 1992) and there is a chapter at the rear on 4mm Scale models of SR Passenger Vans. Reading the text suggests that the model is potentially either Ratio or CCW Productions (described by Gould as Cramer, Cartwright, Webster). Gould reckons that on the CCW version the planking is wrong and the windows a little high and generally not as good as Ratio. Judging by the advert pictures in this thread I really cannot make my mind up whether the model is Ratio or CCW. My hunch is Ratio as the CCW planking appears coarser and deeper in the adverts whilst my van has quite subtle planking. I have included some photos snapped by my phone and hope that they show the vehicle to advantage.. Apologies for the orientation of the photos but I have no idea how to rotate them as they were imported direct from my phone camera. As it is EM fitted we plan to replace the bogies with something a little more detailed but also with P4 wheels. The battery boxes could benefit from some surface detail but would it really be visible? Finally the ends need some replanking- they are wood grain on the model and an appropriate gangway fitted. Any help with identification gratefully received!
  9. Myself and Kelly (D827) had a wonderful time. Lots of humorous chat about all manner of things and some excellent modelling on view. Where else can you see a Southern Region De-icing set on one layout and a De Glehn Compound (GWR 104) on a rake of LNWR corridor stock on another (set on the Dorset coast?) Whether you are a fine scale modeller or not there is much for the modeller to enjoy at these skills days. I recommend attendance! Thanks to all for carrying on with the day and for your time, expertise and chat.
  10. Hi Can I thank the organisers for another excellent show. Can I also thank the stewards at the entrance for the consideration shown to my friend Kelly (D827 here) who was using her mobility scooter (or The Dreaded Contraption as I refer to it)? Firstly being able to park near the front despite not having a blue badge- not all with disabilities are able to get a blue badge- was also a tremendous help and again much appreciated. I went ahead to join the queue and get the tickets and to see if Kelly could be let through the barrier at the end instead of having to zig zag round the barriers. The way Kelly drives the contraption it is likely that she would have demolished it all or ran everyone over! Permission was instantly given for which many thanks. On buying the tickets I was deemed to be Kelly's carer (although it is debatable who of us is caring for who) and despite offering to pay was very kindly given free entry which was a wonderful gesture. This promptly went onto the Society's magazine stall donation plate and the rest to another worthy charity. Lovely wide aisles really make a difference. Despite generally being a fine scale rivet counter (apparently this is considered by some to be a bad thing) there was lots to see. I especially enjoyed the LU layouts and also the 3mm layouts- Addison Road being just one of those. I remain staggered that this size has never caught in commercially as my personal opinion is that N is just that bit too small- although gifted modellers like Jerry (Queensquare) and Grahame Hedges are truly gifted practioners and artists in this scale. There was really was a good spread of layouts of all eras and sizes and space to be able to see them too. Lots of people to talk with and all too soon the show was over. I had been that absorbed in things that I hadn't needed to take either my pain reducers or anxiety meds. All in all a wonderful show and thanks to all who were involved in any way. We both appreciated it. Add the 'banter' from Charlie Petty which is always amusing and I certainly had a great time-helped by obtaining a number of publications. As a last humorous aside on getting my hand stamped to go outside this is what I was presented with: The poor person on the other end of the stamp was mortified and really concerned that they had offended me and offered to do it again. I said no need and that it was really funny and hadn't realised that they knew me that well! The other stewards of course had to have a look at what was amusing us and they also had a good laugh about it. That shows to me what a tremendous hobby that we have in that we can all share some humour and have a nice laugh about it. That is what it is all about- friendship. Once again thanks to all involved and I am already looking forward to next year. It has done me the world of good.
  11. Good news about the Mk1 diagram 24 RB (seemingly with B1 or CW bogies) but what is indeed intriguing is R4974A which is described as InterCity no 1981 RBR. Is this- and the accompanying picture suggest this too- a diag 23 RU (of the type that Bachmann produce) but in refurbished RBR (can't remember diag number) form which had bodyside alterations which Bachmann haven't modelled. Hopefully so as it will be a great match for the InterCity mk2d, f and Mk3a stock that isn't currently catered for by Bachmann. A clever move from Hornby if this is the case. Just need Hornby to do a genuine Mk1 boat SO and to omit those roundels from the green stock. The new buffets significantly tip the balance towards Hornby in SR Mk1 stock.
  12. Hi Can I on behalf of the Signalling Record Society whose stand I organise thank the whole team who organised and run the recent Warley show. The whole process was exemplary - great communication and assistance from Duncan Petford who was the Society and Trade Liason. Set up and break down again easy thanks to the organisation and skills of the traffic marshalls. As it was the overall organiser'S first show I think he did an excellent job. It was for us a successful show and we were able to help with all manner of signalling related enquiries as well as sell some of our own products. It gives people a chance to see our products first hand but also more importantly it gives people the chance to elicit knowledge of signalling or point them in the right direction. If we want to promote and improve the profile and standards of layout signalling then it is vital that there are people able to answer queries without being patronising or demeaning but with authority and enthusiasm. Also important are the fellow operators in your area, namely InterCity 125 Group, Swindon Panel Society, Ian Futers and team, Dave Tailby and team, Hyde Lane team, Mill Bank Alley team and last but not least Kelly and team with the DEMU Roadshow. A harmonious posse of stands makes our experience so much nicer as there is usually not a lot of space so we all tend to have to muck in together. From our position it looked like a good attendance. Indeed when seeing the enormous crowd waiting outside in the foyer to be let in you could almost feel physically the anticipation. The attendees looked to encompass all members of society- male, female, young, not so young and all in between. There were families and teenagers all with one aim- to enjoy a great show which I am sure they did. The usual case that I didn't get to see the show in the detail that I normally would but that is to be expected. I could barely walk at the end of the day- and it is a long day for exhibitors- as a result of my back and knees playing up and a dose of bilateral acute achilies tendinitis. But it was all worth it and assuming that we get an invite for next year, I can't wait to do it again.
  13. Natalie

    Class 33 Book

    Hi Simon Thanks for the update on your eagerly awaited Class 33 book. I haven't really got anything useful to share but assume that you are going to detail or talk about the roof and exhaust changes that were applied to the class. I think it was Paul James who has described the fact that some of the later built locos were built with the revised exhaust position but lacked the roof clips that appear with the later modifications. Just wanted to make you aware of this on the very slim chance that you weren't. Any detail photos of this area- especially in original condition would be welcomed by modellers of that period (ie me!) I am also interested in the livery changes and dates especially with the addition of full yellow ends and the cutting back of the white waist stripes on some. Another of my weird interests is how many- and which- of the class received D prefixes whilst in blue. Were there any Locos that went straight from green to Rail blue with a non D prefixed number. I know that you do tend to like including a lot of what some may refer to as trivia but I regard as important and interesting detail so I would like to offer my support for including lots of detail. Maybe of use or interest is that I have a set of SWD loco diagrams (M-F,Sat and Sun) for Summer 1981 and Summer 1983. The 1983 is the first year I think that the class ventured to West Wales and Manchester Piccadilly andvthis illustrated bybthe cyclic nature of the diagrams. If you would like copies of the documents or just the class 33 diagrams then let me know and I'll be happy to oblige. I can't think of a suitable title but am reminded of an article written by a former shedmaster (I can't remember his name but he is well known) where it is alleged he referred to the class as those "those cute little engines". How about 'The Cute Cromptons' as a title or is that a bit girly?!! Also need to consider your next book- how about the Bulleid Class 12 shunters or class 73s? If anyone can do the job it is you. Best wishes for the continuation and completion of your current project. It will no doubt become the standard work on the class as your others have done.
  14. Hi Just be aware that Dave is currently unwell so please bear that in mind. I am sure all of us wish him a speedy recovery as well as being really helpful he is a lovely man.
  15. Did anyone manage to get refused access to Reddish Depot? When I visited there (1980) there were all sorts of other characters wondering about inside as well. It felt like if you walked past on the dirt path alongside you would be invited in regardless of whether you wanted to or not.
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