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These facebook posts show progress at Sandown and Shanklin (the split-level platform and miles of fencing look.... interesting), and Smallbrook. Note the missing Up signal alongside the headshunt.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/355569249197459/permalink/478321476922235/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/355569249197459/permalink/478111670276549/
All the new signals at Brading are now up, though only one has route indicators curiously. Ramps down to the foot crossing are underway and copers back on the Down platform.
Brading by Chris, on Flickr
Brading by Chris, on Flickr
Brading by Chris, on Flickr
Brading by Chris, on Flickr
Brading by Chris, on Flickr
Brading by Chris, on Flickr-
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12 minutes ago, 313201 said:
The only possibility I can think of unless I am incorrect could be a difference in the length of the coaches of the 483s and 484s
A 4-car 484 should be around 10m longer than it was with the old fleet, so not much room to play with.
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52 minutes ago, 009 micro modeller said:
Is there any particular reason for this?
Presumably modern standards, the sand drag seemingly replaced by a sliding friction buffer?
I've also managed to grab photos this evening of the rather odd split-level platform at Sandown, and the replacement signal protecting the line to Shanklin:
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On 04/04/2021 at 13:24, 31A said:
That's interesting! I wonder whether what's being done is all four lines, or just the Leeds lines?
All four AIUI.
Colas 70813 Colton Jn by Adam J Gibbons, on Flickr
Sentinels to Progress! by TheRosyMole, on Flickr
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Talking of kinks, this rather interesting curve at Yarbridge certainly catches your attention at 40mph! There's a few troublespots like this I was hoping might be addressed...
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2 hours ago, Ncarter2 said:
It was a workout walking along it! Myself and a colleague covered the full
line in two days. We were sensible and started at Shanklin so were walking down grade.
Thanks for the photos. Aside from shingle making for rubbish ballast, can't be much fun to walk on either!
Don't suppose you've any idea how old the bullhead sections are? Must be 70/80+ years old and here to stay presumably.
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8 hours ago, Huw Griffiths said:
That's interesting.
Obviously, I might be reading this incorrectly - but it sounds like they've got a tunnel known for flooding - so they're planning on lowering it (which is unlikely to improve the flooding) and running track powered electric trains through it!
Any lowering would be very minor I'm sure, so the existing pumps should cope fine.
The problem historically was monktonmead mead - this can burst and flow along the railway into the tunnel, overwhelming the pumps and filling the tunnel almost to the roof.
Recent Environment Agency works will hopefully prevent this happening again, but the track through the tunnel must have spent many weeks submerged over the years since it was last relaid.
st johns road station - RYDE by Angela, on Flickr
Train Tunnel under water, Ryde in Flood by Claire Kay, on Flickr
Ryde Tunnel Flood 24-12-13 (1) by Steve Wright, on Flickr
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5 hours ago, Ncarter2 said:
To be fair, it’s not a badly managed line. The track quality that is quoted as being poor is unfair. The ride quality is poor, that is due to the lack of stability given by the shingle. It does make for a fun ride, especially on the longer sections between stations, but the suspension on the 483’s also had a part to play. Sleeper condition was generally fair, the team that maintains it do a great job, they are proactive and keep on top. There has been a lot of works done. It is wrong to compare it to mainline track, it does not see the use or tonnages. It has its areas of concern like any other place on the mainland, but its controlled and maintained. It’s slowly being modernised, the tunnel has good lubrication devices installed, the S&C is being maintained and weld repaired as necessary. It’s fair to say the pier is very much in need of works, but that is being addressed. I will try and dig out some of the photos I took. What I will say, for an asset as old as it is, with equipment as old as it is, it puts some locations on the mainland to shame.
That's a fascinating insight, thanks - you could tell the difference shingle ballast makes when it was replaced under Smallbrook Lane last year, like being on a totally different railway.
Don't suppose you heard anything about plans for the tunnel? I'd have though that was one section of track they'd be keen to relay given how many times it's flooded, and SWR recently suggested it may need lowering to fit the trains through anyway.
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4 hours ago, Ncarter2 said:
Having conducted an asset assessment on the line last year, CWR does not justify itself on the line. From a maintenance point, it would be a hindrance to it, the jointed system is more that suitable.
Can you say more about what you found? Much is said about how poor the track is compared to the mainland, especially the shingle/gravel ballast, but the 483s clearly didn't help.
With track improvements appearing significantly more modest than SWR implied - descoped presumably - it will be interesting to see how the 484s cope and if/how quickly some of the old characteristics return.
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6 hours ago, John M Upton said:
Is there any sign of movement of new 484's coming in or 483's going out yet?
Nope, there's still plenty to do and I presume they want to make some progress with testing at Eastleigh first.
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Platform works are on the final straight now, with Esplanade approaching completion and work starting in the last few days at Pier Head visible on the webcams.
Signalling work has now ramped up too, especially at Brading where platform underpinning looks finished and new track laid and ballasted.
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20 hours ago, John M Upton said:
Presumably the continuation of using bolted track is mostly due to no CWR train on the Island? I am guessing transporting the standard lengths of CWR over would mean it sticking a long way out of both ends of the ferry...
They come over in short lengths but can be welded together later - IIRC they decided to weld every other joint to help the 483s ride quality.
There was talk of more welded track but so far they've only been greasing fishplates, spot re-sleepering, replacing the worst rails and cutting out worn rail ends. Perhaps the welding will come later?
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Disappointing but sadly predictable news - according to Island Echo they'll be using the time to complete some of the station works planned for later this year.
At least there's now a project update on the SWR website, and I've been able to take some photos of the latest progress at Brading with the new southern turnout in place and cattle creep replaced by a culvert:
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Just seen these on flickr - the northern turnout at Brading is in place and platform rebuilding/underpinning is well underway, while platform surfaces at Sandown continue.
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14 hours ago, Mike Storey said:
Unfortunately, the link just seems to take me back to the top of this page. Any chance of re-posting please?
Meanwhile, can we discuss the purpose of this LBC - is it, by any chance, a preamble to re-opening the Bembridge branch? Is there any local initiative to promote this? (I know there are some ghastly 1960's houses at Bembridge, a small B&B near Brading and a few farm tracks in the way, but only the road at St Helens as a major obstacle, really.) Or is that just wishful thinking...........
How strange, I've reposted it and seems to work. It's just a link to the council's planning portal so easy enough to google if not. As for the LBC, that is indeed wishful thinking!
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Finally some concrete detail about the plans for Brading, with an application for Listed Building Consent. The island platform will return to use with heritage-style lamps and PRM-compliant ramps down to the existing foot crossing.
Search for 21/00195/LBC at https://publicaccess.iow.gov.uk/online-applications/search.do?action=simple&searchType=Application
QuoteThe proposed works are as follows
• New platform front wall construction.
• Wall Strengthening works
• Timber sleeper to be installed between track and platform wall for support.
• New platform copers to match existing
• Partial reconstruction of platform wall with ramp
• Resurfacing of the platform with Bitumen macadam wearing course.
• Installation of Fastrack Mesh
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Work is well underway, with track and ballast removed at Shanklin:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/355569249197459/permalink/427021858718864/
https://www.facebook.com/ShanklinConservatives/posts/2729435750720412
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10159418553437755&set=p.10159418553437755&type=3Lake is all but finished with it's new full height platform:
The Up platform at Sandown appears to be approaching completion, using the same pre-fab system as Lake above the old surface:
Brading is finally progressing, with ballast being laid for the southern turnout and new signalling equipment beginning to appear, while the Ryde end of the Down platform is being rebuilt.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/355569249197459/permalink/426597782094605/
https://www.facebook.com/RCRIOW/posts/162741342278088
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On 05/12/2020 at 10:05, Gwiwer said:
It remains the intention to have 007 returned to service for the final few days but this is not guaranteed and it still has significant work required before it can make a last run.
She lives! After three years of work 007 can be seen on the Ryde Pier webcam doing a test run, at 15:49 and 16:03:
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7 hours ago, DK123GWR said:
Perhaps a more understandable misconception for those who don't follow current affairs closely, given that there was an offer from the Chinese to build it in a much shorter timescale than planned which drew a lot of media attention. I don't recall the decision to reject this offer being so well publicised.
It wasn't actually real! Just a bizarre error-ridden hoax...
Chinese HS2 letter was ‘fake news’
"Speaking at Chatham House in London, ambassador Liu Xiaoming said: ‘The Chinese railway authority did not write a letter to promise it can deliver the HS2 project within five years’. He also used the phrase ‘fake news’.
The letter included an email address which did not have an official domain name connected with the railway in China and quoted the postal address of a ‘representative office’ in Malaysia. In reality, the railway’s head office is in Beijing. The letter was signed by someone who also does not seem to exist.
According to City A.M., the China Railway 16th Bureau Group has since denied that it wrote to HS2. It is quoted as saying: ‘Our company knew nothing about the letter which appeared recently in certain media and was written in our company’s name to the chief executive officer HS2 before our company read the letter in the media.’"
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Unfortunately it seems there may not be any Island Line service until 007 finally returns to service, hopefully in the near future - 008 failed an exam this morning and it sounds like she might not be back, having been removed from the shed and left with 004 and 006.
Update: Buses replacing trains till the 14th.
...but in more positive news, James has filmed 484001 moving about the Works on the 3rd rail this morning.
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On 28/11/2020 at 22:16, Chris116 said:
On both trips at least one of the guards went between the two carriages while the train was moving and at no time did the train have one carriage out of use.
AFAIK that's not been allowed on the Island for some years now.
They can move between carriages but only when stationary - after a year (?) of being stuck at the Ryde end of the train, every unit had a buzzer fitted in the other carriage so, after a year (?) of being stuck at the Ryde end of the train, they could complete door duties and switch carriages before giving the right away.
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On 28/11/2020 at 16:07, TomJ said:
Once in the island did the stock ever return to the mainland for repairs or overall. I guess it could have...
I can't think of any tube vehicles leaving for maintenance, just preservation or scrapping.
Overnight testing starts from Monday btw.
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IoW light rail conversion proposed
in UK Prototype Discussions (not questions!)
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I was under the impression Sandown was being resignalled to match Brading, it certainly looks that way.