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  1. Hi @Revolution Mike B @Revolution Ben

     

    I have a defect on some of the ECOFRET wagons that I received back in February.  I have made contact via email on March 19th and again on March 30th - I have received no response to either email. 

     

    I have also tried to contact via RMWeb direct message, firstly on April 5th and again on May 4th - I can see that both messages have been read, however no acknowledgement or response to either. 

     

    As two full months have now passed with no response or attempt to deal with the issues reported, I feel I am sadly running out of options at this point...

     

    I would appreciate some kind of response or attempt to resolve the issues reported.

     

    Please kindly advise.

     

    thanks

    Alan

     

     

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  2. 7 hours ago, TomScrut said:

    Bachmann have done at least 2 runs of 779 too, probably one that would do well but how many don't have a Bachmann?

     

    66779 - I don't own the Bachmann version - it's nowhere near accurate to begin with, but I'd buy the AS/Hattons version in a heartbeat - and I'd guess that many others would too...  and 66721 for that matter.

     

    Al

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  3. 17 hours ago, peterfgf said:

    I offered to pay the balance owing on my order of Ecofreights a couple of weeks ago because it was convenient for me to do so.  I got a terse email back telling me to read the website and wait.

     

    Remember that RevolutioN are essentially a two-man band and from what I can gather they seem to have been tied-up for some time with sending out Cartic carriers to customers.  We obviously know that the Ecofrets are here (and have been for a while, so I believe).  I doubt that they are being held up on purpose, so I'd guess that patience might be key.  🙂

     

    Best

    Al

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  4. 6 hours ago, JohnR said:

    The manufacturers have worked out that the variations seen on a particular model are suitable for the individual loco they are selling it as.  I'm just saying it would be helpful if they told us what those variations are, and a list of other locos with the same variations. 

     

     

    So that competing manufacturers can potentially copy said information...?  🙄

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  5. 2 hours ago, andythenorth said:

    Confirmed, the Intercity Executive version is remarkably close to white where it should be a warm grey.

     

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    Agreed.  As suspected, Dapol's version of InterCity is closer to InterCity 'Swallow' livery.  It's difficult to tell from the photo, but has the Executive Dark Grey improved from the previous 'virtual' black, I wonder?  It looks as though it may have done so?

     

    Al

  6. 18 hours ago, adb968008 said:

    requires understanding of the various combinations  of chassis and buffer beam combinations.

    There is an EWS one on a GBRF chassis, whilst a GBRF one is on an EWS chassis in Hattons pile, though to make both good would need a 3rd EWS one and a G&W one for parts… so £500 outlay would get you a good EWS, GBRF and an acceptable EWS one, and a pile of parts… ebay would get you that for less £, and no effort fixing it.

     

    Naturally.  You're forgetting though that it also depends on what the buyer is starting with - he may have an early (EWS/Freightliner/DRS) chassis already sitting on the workbench, therefore further expenditure required = zero, in order to acquire (in this example) a complete EWS machine.   Or he may have a complete early Freightliner example, whereby the body and bufferbeams might simply require swapping over.  The possibilities are endless. 

     

    Either way, the argument is quickly descending into a long, dark tunnel at this point - my hypothetical 'project' was simply to highlight the general uses for such models as donors...  😉

     

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  7. 12 hours ago, PieGuyRob said:

     

    To me?  At this moment in time?  No.  But I'm not sure that you are looking at it in the same way that I might be.  Perhaps stop viewing it as a fully-working model and instead see it as a spares donor? 

     

    eg.  There may well be someone out there for example, that craves an EWS liveried 66, who can simply flip that bodyshell onto a working chassis that they might already own.  They will then be left with a 'spare' bodyshell, that I'm sure they'd have no trouble moving on for £70+ and thus recouping some of their initial outlay. 

     

    You then also have a set of spares (bogies, fuel tank etc), that could easily be utilised on other projects - there are numerous 66s that haven't been covered that require different bodyshells paired with different fuel tanks etc.  It's not always about the model as a a whole.   

     

    I would agree that the description of some, eg...  https://www.hattons.co.uk/977697/hattons_originals_h4_66_002_s_po03_class_66_66079_in_ews_livery_james_nightall_g_c__sound_fitted_pre_owned_decod/stockdetail as "Sound Fitted - Pre-owned - Decoder and speaker removed" is more than a little ambiguous, so if I were seriously interested I'd likely give Hattons a call and ask someone to clarify exactly what it is they are selling and decide from thereon if I wanted to make the purchase. 

     

    Either way, it beats squabbling on forums over pricing.  If something seems overpriced, get on the phone and make an offer, at worst they can only say "No"?  🤩

     

    Al

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  8. @PieGuyRob  With all due respect, my response was to the point that @The Black Prince was making regarding the reductions on the main range some months ago, nothing to do with the current offerings. 

     

    I appreciate what you might be saying regarding these latter examples appearing broken, overpriced etc, and to many that will be true.  However, the fact remains that they are now the only examples on sale and will command whatever price the market dictates, be that below or above the original retail price.  Pure economics.

     

    I'm pretty sure that if Hattons have the pricing 'wrong' and the models are still there in a few months time then the prices will come down to reflect this.  But still, bearing in mind that there were something in excess of 110 models available a week or so ago, and now there are just 50 remaining kind of suggests that they perhaps aren't too far wrong in their judgement?

     

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  9. 11 hours ago, The Black Prince said:

    Given what has been said by Hatton's here, I'm not sure "the bulk of the production run" being discounted is a fair estimate, there was only a handful of liveries that didn't sell that well and I'm sure that's factored in when you're producing as many livery options as they did. 

     

    They all use the same 6 axles, bogies, motors and PCBs - which I would guess before assembly are the most expensive parts so perhaps on an economies of scale, whilst this was a mammoth project the unit cost may not have been that close to £150. 

     

    The entire range (except one example, GBRf 66756) was slashed in price from £150 to circa £119 (that's a hefty 20% reduction in price - I highly doubt that Hattons envisaged that they would be doing this at the beginning of the project), and some examples had several hundred remaining in stock at that time - I remember having purchased a fair few myself. 

     

    Either way, its virtually a moot point as to whether these were sold at a loss, or close to cost, or with a small profit margin - the real point is that there was clearly a far lesser chunk of profit made than what would have been anticipated, which by itself would have been a significant factor in assessing as to whether the project would be deemed a 'success', or otherwise...

     

    Best

    Al

     

     

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  10. On 05/10/2022 at 20:12, PieGuyRob said:

    In my own opinion, non of them should be over £150, that being the price of a brand new DCC ready version. I'm obviously missing something. Sorry rant over.

     

    7 hours ago, The Black Prince said:

    Some of the latest used prices are odd and I do wonder if there's logic to it or just random 

     

    Simple demand and supply economics: 

     

    It seems reasonable to estimate that these are likely the last of the bunch.

    Secondly, there is only one unit of each unique item.

    Lastly, the last time I looked, auction site prices showed that some are willing to pay circa £200 for a single 66. 

     

    Hatton's have clearly offloaded the bulk of the production run at highly-reduced prices (close to cost price perhaps?), so no one can say they haven't had chance to snap up a bargain.  So why shouldn't Hattons try and recoup a little on the last lot?  And if they don't sell at those prices it's hardly excruciating at this stage to 'reduce to clear', if and when necessary...

     

    Al

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  11. 12 hours ago, wombatofludham said:

    Years ago when we had just the Mainline 45 no-one would have bet on there being TWO 45s on the market allowing people to choose the one they feel more comfortable with.  

     

    For sure... now we can choose between one very dated model and one fundamentally inaccurate one.  🙈  Fair enough re the Bachmann 45, a model of its vintage will naturally appear dated. 

     

    Heljan's 45 however, is a model produced in 2022, when there is more technology and opportunity to research available to mankind than in any previous age.  And to effectively 'reward' a manufacturer with £160+ of my hard-earned dollar for a model that has clearly been poorly researched/executed, well, I'm afraid that simply ain't how I roll.  But of course, with full respect, to each his own...  😃

     

    Al

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